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Alito and the Catholics (The decline of an institution and the rise of its ideas)
The Weekly Standard ^ | January 23, 2006 | Joseph Bottum

Posted on 01/14/2006 8:13:49 PM PST by RWR8189

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1 posted on 01/14/2006 8:13:54 PM PST by RWR8189
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As a Catholic I am tired of the rants of "Catholics" Kerry, Kennedy and Durbin. The do not speak for me or my faith. If they had their way, all Catholics, including Roberts and Alito would NEVER get appointed to any judicial position.

The mind reels.

2 posted on 01/14/2006 8:26:30 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: RWR8189

This is a very interesting op ed piece, and I think he hit ahome run in his evaluation of what is going on in the political arena regarding Catholic voters.


3 posted on 01/14/2006 8:28:32 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To: RWR8189
...and the Catholic Church is a national joke.

Piffle.

4 posted on 01/14/2006 8:29:45 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: RWR8189; Lil'freeper

Now that is a great article.


5 posted on 01/14/2006 8:30:22 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: RWR8189

bump 4 later


6 posted on 01/14/2006 8:41:13 PM PST by I_be_tc
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To: RWR8189

Good article. Jody Bottum is a trained philosopher (with a PhD), and it shows in his clarity of thought. I once had lunch with him in New York, before he moved on to the Weekly Standard and then back again to First Things. He's an interesting guy.

And he's right about the importance of just war theory, natural law, and some of the systematic thought that is coming back into our public culture. The bishops and the catechists have absolutely zero to do with this trend. It's the self-educated Catholics who are doing it, with the help of journals like First Things and of a few groups behind the scenes, such as the Association of Catholic Scholars and Opus Dei.


7 posted on 01/14/2006 8:47:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RWR8189

With all the illegal immigrants flooding in from Mexico, I imagine the Catholic population is growing like a weed in this country, for good or not.


8 posted on 01/14/2006 8:53:16 PM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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To: Petronski

Too true. Watch how silent the bishops will be as the anniversary of Roe v. Wade comes up. Watch how the wealth of the Church is consumed by lawyers.


9 posted on 01/14/2006 8:54:25 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RWR8189

Excellent article!


10 posted on 01/14/2006 8:57:54 PM PST by Frank_2001
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11 posted on 01/14/2006 10:04:35 PM PST by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
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Thanks for posting this. In its long history, the Catholic Church has confronted every possible challenge and has developed a wide and deep intellectual response. Its modern Popes, as evidenced especially by the last two, have been scholars and intellectuals able to hold their own in any contest (e.g. Ratzinger versus Habermas.)Disciplined and thoughtful lawyers like Roberts and Alito are natural heirs to this tradition. On the other hand, no one has ever accused Kennedy, Biden, Durbin and their ilk of being either thoughtful or intellectuals.


12 posted on 01/14/2006 10:19:40 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: RWR8189

bumpus ad summum


13 posted on 01/14/2006 10:25:42 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Lawgvr1955

There are so many Catholics that are the opposite. We should have a truth in label law.


14 posted on 01/14/2006 10:37:48 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: NapkinUser

It is poor attitudes like yours that instill feelings of animosity in the ranks of modern Christianity.

Like it or not, Catholics and Protestants should be focusing their efforts on the peace and prosperity of Christianity itself.

To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.

Focus more energy on stopping Islamofascism, abortion, Murtha, Kerry, Pelosi, etc...


15 posted on 01/14/2006 10:45:31 PM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure." President Reagan)
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To: RWR8189

The "Church Age" is over, claim some. If it is over it means Roman Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Etc., "Church Age" is over. What replaces or succeeds the Age is the future and it is here now! The relgious future is in the Southern Hemispheres. Christianity is growing by leaps and bounds in Africa and Asia. The Anglican Catholic Church, for one, is already into these areas. The future looks bright!


16 posted on 01/14/2006 10:54:25 PM PST by Blake#1
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To: Coleus; firebrand; NYer
Ping



17 posted on 01/14/2006 11:08:15 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Emmet Fitzhume

"It is poor attitudes like yours that instill feelings of animosity in the ranks of modern Christianity.

Like it or not, Catholics and Protestants should be focusing their efforts on the peace and prosperity of Christianity itself.

To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time."

I think you got me pegged all wrong. I was just stating the Catholic population is most likely growing very fast in this country. I have NOTHING against any section of Christianity or Jews. There is an old thread, don't know what it's called, where some FReepers was complaing about Alito being Catholic and how he wanted a Protestant since he felt that section was responsible the most for president Bush's reelection. I took him to task over that. Christian is Christian to me.

I'm a Baptist by the way.


18 posted on 01/15/2006 12:58:25 AM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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To: RWR8189

Much of this explains the success of Catholics Against Kerry. We were able to reach many catholics who, although they do not go to mass, were nonetheless, NOT willing to sit by and let Kerry mock true Catholics by claiming to be one.


19 posted on 01/15/2006 4:30:46 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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To: Malesherbes

Disciplined and thoughtful lawyers like Roberts and Alito are natural heirs to this tradition.

I wonder how much this is due to the Catholic school system which flowered last century. Now it is mostly a joke, but back then it was where one went for high end education at low end prices.

Perhaps it is time for Christians to really make an effort at their private schools.


20 posted on 01/15/2006 4:35:17 AM PST by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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