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Neaderthals At It Again
Conservative Battleline Online ^ | January 11, 2006 | Donald Devine

Posted on 01/11/2006 8:42:47 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

Neanderthals At It Again

H.L. Mencken’s final report from the famous Scopes trial in Dayton Tennessee comes roaring down to us after 80 years as sharply edged as ever:

"Let no one mistake [the trial] for comedy, farcical though it may be in all its details.  It serves notice on the country that Neanderthal man is organizing in these forlorn backwaters of the land, led by a fanatic, rid of sense and devoid of conscience.  Tennessee, challenging him too timorously and too late, now sees its courts converted into camp meetings and its Bill of Rights made a mock of by sworn officers of the law.  There are other states that had better look to their arsenals before the Hun is at their gates."

Could he have foreseen the recent Pennsylvania case contesting evolution in terms Scopes would find unchanged from how Clarence Darrow argued for him way back then? Mencken anticipated even more in an earlier Nation column: “No principle is at stake at Dayton save the principle that school teachers, like plumbers, should stick to the job that is set before them, and not go roving around the house, breaking windows, raiding the cellar, and demoralizing children.” The continuity in both of his observations on human nature was that the Neanderthals were in charge of the law and that none of those involved had the sense to stick to what they actually knew when scientific and intellectual matters were at hand.

The more recent decision was issued by a U.S. District Court Judge with the impressive moniker of John E. Jones III in a case from the equally inconspicuous Dover, PA. Judge Jones the Third could have avoided making a fool of himself by either declaring the case moot—the school board that required a statement in their biology textbook book claiming evolution was only a theory rather than a fact and that “intelligent design” was an alternative explanation to Charles Darwin’s, had been defeated in the prior election—or even ruled that the board decision was biased by religious prejudice. But the new school board had already announced it would appeal only if it lost the case so The Third knew he would not be reviewed by higher court authority and was presented with a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to demonstrate upon a world stage his intellectual and scientific superiority to the boobs.

The distinguished member of the Schuylkill County Bar, educated to the highest levels as a Bachelor of Arts at Dickinson College and, comfortably again, at its School of Law let hubris unleash his pen and decided not a mere case of law but chose to define biology, science and rationality itself, Constitutionally, legally, once and for all, for all time. All he proved, and that rather conclusively, is we have learned absolutely nothing over these fourscore years.

What gives Batchelor Jones his superior powers? He admits he must deal with “complex if not obtuse” matters but claims that “after a six-week trial that spanned 21 days…no other tribunal in the United States is in a better position than are we to traipse into this controversial area.” No kidding, he did say traipse and it all came to him over the span of an incredible six weeks! After all, his scientific expertise prior to the Federal court was as The Honorable Chairman of the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board and before that as Solicitor of the great metropolis of Pottstown, PA, surely ranking favorably with the pallid scientific background of Mencken’s memorable Dr. Crabbes.

The 21-day wonder’s first target was the comparatively easy subject of biology. He acknowledged that some serious scientists had found problems with evolution citing gaps in the record and life-forms that did not seem to evolve from lower bodies. But “Just because scientists cannot explain today how biological systems evolved does not mean that they cannot and will not be able to explain them tomorrow.” Certainly, this is true but, while Judge Jones thinks this disposes of the case, his is just as clearly a belief based upon faith rather than upon the empirical science he claims is the only standard for an idea’s worth. While any scientific theory deserves the liberality of this assumption, it is clearly based on cosmology rather than empirical observation.

In evaluating the alternative intelligent design theory favored by the first school board, however, the Judge uses a more fundamentalist standard. “Intelligent design is a religious view,” he declares, “a mere re-labeling of creationism and not a scientific theory. It is an extension of the Fundamentalists’ view that one must either accept the literal interpretation of Genesis or else believe in the godless system of evolution.” This is in spite of the fact that even most Christians do not view Genesis literally in every regard and that its largest denomination, the Catholic Church, accepts evolution as a likely part of the explanation rather than either/or. Even the consensus of evolutionary science has devised the cosmological idea of the Big Bang as part of its explanation, which bang by definition is itself not evolutionary but an abrupt bang.

Judge Jones does not hit full stride until he defines science itself. “Science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena,” opining that the scientific revolution was explicitly about the rejection of “revelation” in favor of empirical evidence. This certainly would have been a revelation to the devout Isaac Newton, the--or one of the--men normally recognized as the leader of that revolution, or to Brahe, Copernicus, Kepler, Liebniz, Napier or most of the rest of the pioneers. But the Judge moves bravely on: “science has been a discipline in which testability rather than any ecclesiastical authority or philosophical coherence has been the measure of a scientific idea’s worth,” a discipline that avoids any search for “meaning” or “purpose,” although he does mention the need for logic as a “tool” of science and for “ground rules,” although he limits these by claiming “the essential ground rules” are those that “limit science to testable, natural explanations.”

The Judge’s admirers are correct to note he has given a “clear definition of science” and even that his is “a passionate peon to science.” Yet, to anyone even vaguely familiar with philosophy of science, it obviously is a most particular definition of science, one called logical positivism, one that was the dominant view in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and is still the majority view of the establishment institutions like the National Academy of Science relied upon so much by Judge Jones, which in his case plays the role of the Holy Office experts against Galileo (who also was a devout believer). But this particular definition has been seriously challenged and not only by religionists. Take the philosopher Sir Karl Popper, who was not religious and not a believer in God. One could have instead referenced Albert Einstein but he did believe in God. Popper wrote his Logic of Scientific Discovery in mid 20th Century to critique positivism from a strictly logical point of view.

The key to understanding the Judge’s partisan approach to science is his use of “testability.” Popper was the first to rigorously argue that science does not test theories but attempts to falsify theories. Testing to prove theories is logically impossible for a reason the Judge inadvertently acknowledged. New evidence can always falsify a theory but can never confirm one since new evidence can always overturn the earlier findings. No theory is ever proven but is always open to dispute. Logically, this must include evolution. Otherwise, it truly is a religious belief. The Judge is also on shaky ground in claiming that science is limited to natural causes to explain natural phenomena. Even he recognized the need for logic, which even positivists like A.J. Ayer, recognized was not material but analytic. More importantly, Popper claimed that all science rests on cosmology which defines the point of view, the motivation, the methodology and the types of problems scientists find worthy of study and are not material themselves.

Popper may be wrong but the Judge does not seem aware there is a controversy. The cosmology or cosmologies that structure science are not testable--logic is not, mathematics is not, the scientific method is not. These need to be internally consistent but they cannot be tested empirically. Big Bang is itself one of these propositions. Interestingly, Big Bang was fiercely rejected by the leading evolutionists of the 1960s for the same reason intelligent design is today. Such a belief can leave a place for God outside the theory as the cause of the bang. But Big Bang proved irresistible to scientists as part of a more rational explanation and most evolutionists rely upon it today.

Again, in the 1970s, it became increasingly impossible to ignore the scientific evidence that the fittest did not always survive. The fossil record showed innumerable species that died out that seemed more fit than those that survived. Besides “survival of the fittest” sounded too much like Hitler. So evolutionists were forced to recognize outside catastrophic events such as meteors that overruled evolution and killed off normally superior species. Yet, again, if some events outside evolution as Darwin used the term were recognized the fear from some scientists was that there was room for the unwashed to introduce God as an outside creative event.

The big secret is that no one follows pure Darwinian evolution today except the ignorant who have no idea what scientists actually believe. Both Big Bang (interesting capitalization) and catastrophism would be heresy to Darwin and were violently rejected by his followers when these concepts were first introduced. They are a normal part of biology today and are taught in most textbooks. Intelligent design may be more of the same in the future. Who knows? What is clear is that the keepers of the scientific tablets will continue to reject any additions to the dogma that seem to weaken its myths—especially for those for whom Darwinian evolution has become a metaphysic--and the Judge Jones of the world will continue to follow convention and the mob and assist them. But reality has a way of intruding and establishments are not always successful, especially over the long run.

What is most interesting is that the roles in the earlier and current controversies have been almost completely reversed. Like Tennessee, Pennsylvania passed a law requiring adherence to the current orthodoxy, creationism in the twenties but evolution today. It is important to note that the earlier Dover school board was trying to skirt a state law that forced the orthodox view and that when popular emotion was whipped up by the orthodoxy the mob threw out the intelligent designers, not the evolutionists as earlier in Tennessee. In both cases, the popular theory was made into law and forced upon a minority that held an alternative view. In both cases, the law is made the ass, manipulated to favor the majority public position over the minority one.

As in the past, the more rational position will probably prevail over the longer term. What is certain is that intelligent design is not simply a religious dogma, as it is supported by non-religionists—in fact, we printed such a defense here by William Daley (http:\\acuf.org/issue45/051005med)--and several of these appeared before Judge Jones even though he chose to ignore them. As far as the minority is concerned, there is more than one way to skin a cat. If convinced of the merits of the case, one way forward for intelligent designers is for local school boards to offer philosophy of science courses to discuss the cosmological issues as a way to circumvent the heavy hand of the state and the courts One thing is sure. Mencken would be unsurprised that human nature had not changed. Only the Hun has changed sides. The fanatics devoid of sense, the Neanderthals, and the sworn officers of the law are still abusing the Bill of Rights, only now they are being led by a Federal judge.

Donald Devine, the editor, taught philosophy of science at the University of Maryland for 14 years and is a professor of Western Civilization at Bellevue University.


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To: Fred Nerks
Oh, so you're a Velikovskian; I suspected that.

Glad to see my nose for kooks is as finely tuned as it ever was.

42 posted on 01/12/2006 6:52:04 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
I prefer the term "Neandertaler" without an "h". The valley is called nowadays Neandertal. The scientific appellation still is "homo neanderthalensis" but you would pronounce the word "Neandertaler" a little bit more correct.

Pronunciation for Neandertaler :



At Neandertal you can still find some living Neandertaler!
43 posted on 01/12/2006 8:03:55 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

thank you, that makes sense, I'm a rancher not a scientist.I am interested in the theory of catastrophes.


44 posted on 01/12/2006 12:58:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fintan

Sorry...I thought this was about Kennedy, Biden and Schumer
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I thought so too...until I saw the other neanderthals here who just can't get past Darwin and his lunacies. They are constrained by 19th centry "science"


45 posted on 01/12/2006 1:02:27 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Right Wing Professor

"Glad to see my nose for kooks is as finely tuned as it ever was."

Have you read 'Earth In Upheaval'? Read it and come back and tell me that again.


46 posted on 01/12/2006 1:07:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: RipSawyer

I am interested in the theory of catastrophes.


47 posted on 01/12/2006 1:09:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: GladesGuru

"I must remind you that all science is basically hypothesis, hypothesis, hypothesis."

The hypothesis that interests me is that of a number of catastrophic celestial 'accidents' that left their mark upon Earth, Moon and Mars and almost wiped out life on our planet.


48 posted on 01/12/2006 1:15:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: dread78645

Thank you for that incredibly long response, it must have taken you hours to put together.

Time will tell, won't it?

If Carl Sagan was still alive he would be eating his hat right now.

http://www.sumeria.net/cosmo/veli2.html

''As I heard it, Sagan was running around telling people that the oil fires in Kuwait were going to cause a nuclear winter. Somehow, from the author of the "super greenhouse" theory, that doesn't really surprise me.'





49 posted on 01/12/2006 1:50:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
Is that a reply to my statement:

'And if it was based on hard scientific data then it wouldn't be a THEORY, would it?' (you)


"Yes, it would. Theory is the highest level a scientific idea can achieve. There is nothing higher. That's why it's the theory of gravity, germ theory, theory of evolution, and so on." (me)

? If it is, I sure don't see how.

"I am interested in the theory of catastrophes."

Then Vilikovsky is your man!
50 posted on 01/12/2006 2:22:16 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Darwin's journal describes numerous catastrophic scenes - he just didn't include the information in his final works.


'I was interested by finding on the highest peak of one range (about 700 feet above the sea) a great arched fragment, lying on its convex side, or back downwards. Must we believe that it was fairly pitched up in the air, and thus turned? Or, with more probability, that there existed formerly a part of the same range more elevated than the point on which this monument of a great convulsion of nature now lies. As the fragments in the valleys are neither rounded nor the crevices filled up with sand, we must infer that the period of violence was subsequent to the land having been raised above the waters of the sea. In a transverse section within these valleys the bottom is nearly level, or rises but very little towards either side. Hence the fragments appear to have travelled from the head of the valley; but in reality it seems more probable that they have been hurled down from the nearest slopes; and that since, by a vibratory movement of overwhelming force, the
fragments have been levelled into one continuous sheet. If during the earthquake1 which in 1835 overthrew Concepcion, in Chile, it was thought wonderful that small bodies should have been pitched a few inches from the ground, what must we say to a movement which has caused fragments many tons in weight to move onwards like so much sand on a vibrating board, and find their level? I have seen, in the Cordillera of the Andes, the evident marks where stupendous mountains have been broken into pieces like so much thin crust, and the strata thrown on their vertical edges; but never did any scene, like these "streams of stones," so forcibly convey to my mind the idea of a convulsion, of which in historical records we might in vain seek for any counterpart: yet the progress of knowledge will probably some day give a simple explanation of this phenomenon, as it already has of the so long thought inexplicable transportal of the erratic boulders which are strewed over the plains of Europe...'

http://pages.britishlibrary.net/charles.darwin/texts/beagle_voyage/beagle_front.html


51 posted on 01/12/2006 3:29:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
And he didn't believe in catastrophism as the main engine of geological formation. He was extrapolating from observable events (earthquakes) and speculating.

Velikovsky was a nut-case.
52 posted on 01/12/2006 3:37:20 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

You might as well say 'I don't have to read a book to know it's author was stupid.'

Material on Velikovsky (2)
Various authors





15 Jul 93 02:32 news: Ginenthal's "Sagan and Velikovsky"/ The AAAS inquisition

The following very long quote is from Charles Ginenthal's "Sagan and Velikovsky", with the author's permission. I'd like for readers to get a flavor for some of what the book contains, and particularly what it has to say about Sagan's greenhouse theory, and about the AAAS meeting in 1974 which became the basis for "Scientists Confront Velikovsky", which I presume is the basis for at least some of the contents of the Meritt FAQ.

A CASE OF PROFESSIONAL HYSTERIA

Even before Worlds in Collision had reached the bookstore it was enveloped in controversy.

In 1950. after more than a dozen publishing houses had rejected Velikovsky's manuscript, it was accepted by Macmillan. Having announced forthcoming release of the book, Macmillan was soon caught in what appeared to be an organized boycott, initiated by the well-known astronomer Harlow Shapley, then director of the Harvard College Observatory. In a personal letter to the publisher, Shapley sought to block the book's release, threatening to "cut off" his relations with Macmillan. Letters from other authors of Macmillan books followed, along with threats from professors who could not imagine using the company's textbooks any longer if the publisher were to discredit itself in the rumored fashion.

Though the book had already been reviewed by several critics at Macmillan's request, and though it was now on the presses, the company hastily submitted the manuscript to three additional reviewers. These too recommended publication by a two-to-one vote.

So, in April, 1950, Macmillan decided to go ahead with publication of the already controversial book.

Despite the immediate furor, one of those who saw merit in Velikovsky's ideas was Gordon Atwater, chairman and curator of the Hayden Planetarium of the American Museum of Natural History. In a preface to a 1950 article by Fulton Oursler in Reader's Digest Atwater contended that, in light of the Velikovsky thesis, "the underpinnings of modern science can now be re-examined." In fact, Atwater himself planned to mount a star show at the planetarium illustrating the new possibilities opened up by Worlds in Collision. And in This Week magazine, a cover story by Atwater called for an open mind on Velikovsky's theory.

But the day before the article appeared. and in a move that seemed to set the tenor of the events to follow, Atwater was, without explanation, dismissed from the museum. Under growing pressure to abandon Worlds in Collision, Macmillan fired the editor who contracted the book, then, eight weeks after its publication, transferred its rights to Doubleday -- a move unparalleled in publishing history: the book had already become number one on the New York Times nonfiction bestseller list.

The many bizarre responses be professional scholars -- before and after publication of Worlds in Collision -- have been fully detailed elsewhere. They include horrendous misrepresentations of the thesis by well respected astronomers and others who had never seen the book; repeated refusals by scientific journals to grant Velikovsky an opportunity to reply to his critics; and refusals to retract factually erroneous and even farcical 'summaries' of his views.

For two decades following the appearance of Worlds in Collision Velikovsky was, with rare exceptions persona non grata on college and university campuses and his work treated as a joke by established publications.

This was to change somewhat toward the end of the sixties, however. By this time the space age was well underway, with volumes of extraterrestrial data flowing into Earth's computers. Stunning pictures, rock samples, measurements of every kind. The profile of the planets were shifting with each subsequent revelation, and it was clear that many surprises on balance weighed in Velikovsky's favor. The unexpected, massive clouds of Venus, the planet's strange retrograde rotation and its surpassing temperature, the stark figures of the tortured planet Mars, verification by the Moon landings of radio active hot spots and remnant magnetism predicted by Velikovsky; the growing recognition of electromagnetism in celestial mechanics -- these and other discoveries may not have produced the pristine verdicts proclaimed by some of Velikovsky's loyalists, but were enough to encourage a number of scholars to take a new look at Velikovsky's thesis.

In 1972 a group out of Portland, Oregon began publishing a ten-issue series "Immanuel Velikovsky Reconsidered", presenting a wide range of scholarly opinions on Velikovsky, with many contributors calling for a wholesale reevaluation of his work in view of new data. The first issue published, produced quite a stir, both in this country and abroad. In the following months. most of the country's general scientific publications addressed the Velikovsky question -- some calling for more openness and tolerance of unpopular views, others wondering aloud how to preserve the integrity of science from intellectual con artists.

This was the beginning of some new and fascinating episodes, culminating in a widely publicized symposium on Velikovsky in 1974, sponsored by the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

LOOKING FOR VELIKOVSKY'S COMET

Since publication of Worlds in Collision in 1950, many aspects of Velikovsky's thesis have been debated by various scientific spokesmen who have assured us that certain ironclad principles of astronomy and the Earth sciences refute all of the book's primary claims. But can it honestly be said that the sum of the discussion so far has provided a definitive answer to the issues first raised by Velikovsky 40 years ago?

What is the evidence and how does it relate to Velikovsky's hypothesis? The question of the evidence is, of course, related to Sagan's criticism. For some, Sagan's criticisms of Velikovsky are sufficient to put the views he offers out of the realm of science. For example, Anthony R. Aveni's article "A Marshaling of Arguments" presented in Science, (Jan. 20. 1978), pages 288-89, states, "Carl Sagan's paper... is amusing, acrid, and totally devastating... his essay alone is sufficient to reduce the Velikovsky theory to anile fancy... Velikovsky is flatly and totally disproven... As far as Velikovskyanism is concerned, it is dead and buried. The final nail has been driven. It is now hoped that we can move on to more exciting things." When letters were sent to Aveni critical of his review presenting evidence contrary to that presented by Sagan, Aveni sent a letter in response. 'My review says that I'm tired of listening. I've spent too much time listening, and all of it isn't worth listening to -- and that is an objective statement."

As pointed out earlier, E.J. Opik stated, "Dogma differs from hypothesis by the refusal of its adherents even to consider the aspects of its validity. Legitimate disagreement or controversy creates dogma when arguments are no longer listened to." In science, evidence dominates all other forms of argument. Therefore, Aveni's attitude may well a personal standard for science. Only evidence should determine the natureof a scientific debate

In the following pages, this author has gathered evidence from the scientific sources and cited them verbatim on each of Sagan's criticisms. It is only the evidence that will be of paramount importance in evaluating Sagan's critique.

WHAT IS SCIENCE ?

In his introductory remarks Sagan offers his views of science, 'Scientists, like other human beings have their hopes and fears, their passions and despondencies -- and their strong emotions may sometimes interrupt the course of clear thinking and sound Practice... The history of science is full of cases where previously accepted theories and hypothesis have been entirely overthrown, to be replaced by new ideas that more adequately explain the data. While there is an understandable psychological inertia 'usually lasting about one generation - such revolutions in scientific thought are widely accepted as a necessary and desirable element of scientific progress.' (5)

There is, indeed, a clear distinction to be made between the psychological and sociological behavior of individual scientists, on the one hand and the requirement of truthfulness and responsible behavior of scientists in their symposia and journals on the other. Therefore. in order to determine whether or not Science and in particular, the AAAS symposium held on Velikovsky reflects science governed by passion or science governed by reason, we must investigate the AAAS symposium held on Velikovsky and the scientific journalistic treatment of Velikovsky.

Sagan states further that, 'The most fundamental axioms and conclusions may be challenged. The prevailing hypothesis must survive confrontation with observation. Appeals to authority are impermissible. The reasoned argument must be set out for all to see.' (6) Not only do these requirements demand that Velikovsky adhere to the rational scientific position but that Sagan in his criticisms fulfill these same ideals. If as Sagan suggests reason has come to rule passion in the case of Velikovsky then criteria of fairness and justice will be observed. If passion rules reason then dishonesty and injustice will be observed.

Sagan adds, 'Indeed the reasoned criticisms of a prevailing belief is a service to the proponents of that belief. If they are incapable of defending it they are well advised to abandon it. This self questioning and error correcting aspect of the scientific method is its most striking property, and sets it off from many other areas of human endeavor such as politics and theology' (7) "where credulity is the rule." (8)

In order for anyone to defend his views he must have access to the journals that raise criticisms of his thesis. The question arises: Was Velikovsky permitted full access to the scientific journals to defend his hypothesis and also to the AAAS publication for this debate? Furthermore, was Velikovsky given sufficient space to answer all attacks on his evidence?

As a case in point, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists for April, 1964 saw fit to publish an "abusive" article by a Howard Margolis.

'The editor of the Bulletin, Dr. Eugene Rabinowitch, in a letter to Professor Alfred de Grazia (who as) editor of the American Behavioral Scientist (had protested the 'abusive' article) offered Velikovsky an opportunity to reply with an article 'not more abusive' than that of Margolis or instead to have some of his views presented in the Bulletin by some scientist of repute. Then Professor Harry H. Hess [Chairman of the Department of Geology at Princeton and President of the American Geological Society] submitted Velikovsky's article 'Venus - A Youthful Planet" to Dr. Rabinowitch. The latter then returned it with the statement that he did not read Velikovsky's book nor the article.' (9)

How can science be a self-correcting mechanism if it refuses to read or permit a reasoned response in the organs of scientific literature? Although the deplorable. irrational behavior of the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists took place in 1964 was there a different attitude -- one more just and rational -- governing the AAAS symposium on Velikovsky held ten years later? Was the symposium convened in San Francisco, at which Sagan presented his paper, a meeting to honestly discuss and debate Velikovsky's thesis or was it actually organized to ridicule and humiliate Velikovsky?

Professor of Philosophy, Lynn E. Rose of SUNY Buffalo published the following letter sent to Velikovsky, in which he states,

'...I urge you (Velikovsky) not to waste any more time with AAAS people or with their volume that was supposed to be a report of the AAAS sessions on your work held in San Francisco in 1974. 'The behavior of the AAAS people has been deplorable from the start. Their intention never was to examine or to debate your work; all along their intention was to find a way to ridicule and to belittle your work before the public.

'The AAAS people sat up the program so that four panelists would speak against your theories and you alone would be allowed to speak in your defense... Not a single scientist working with you was allowed to participate in the panel discussion. This violated the AAAS promise that there would be as many panelists speaking for your theories as there were panelists speaking against your theories.

'All the panelists, including yourself, were to be given 'equal time'. Each of the four negative panelists then proceeded to enumerate alleged errors on your part and alleged evidence against your theories. Clearly the intention was that these 'equal time' arrangements would permit them to introduce so many points that you would not have enough time to answer them all.

'This same strategy is being used by the AAAS people, in the arrangement for their proposed volume on the San Francisco sessions. They wish to retain the four-to-one odds. and have still not allowed anyone in addition to yourself to argue in support of your theories. They wish to keep all the arrangements for the volume in their own hands. and to prevent any balanced and serious examination of your work. They wish to provide far more space for negative comments from your opponents than for positive comments from you. And they wish to allow the four negative participants to include additional remarks that you will not have the opportunity to answer. It is possible that they will not even show you those additional remarks until the volume has already gone to press. It is also possible that, after you have spent so much time preparing material for their volume, they may suddenly decide not to publish it at all, thus leaving you with little to show for your time and effort...'

'When a forum really is devoted to serious examination and criticism of a man's work, the format and atmosphere are light years away from what the AAAS people are doing. I have in mind for example, the Library of Living Philosophers series edited by Paul A. Schilpp. That series includes publications of Einstein on Russell, and of many others. Each such volume includes a long bibliography of the man's writings and a long preliminary assay by him in the form of an intellectual autobiography. There are a number of critical articles included in such a volume, but the man whose work is at issue is given as much time and space as he needs to reply to each criticism. The entire approach is serious and fair; there is debate and argument, but not abuse and slander. And the volume is presented to the reading public as if it were an honor and a form of recognition for the man who is its subject. What a far cry from the way the AAAS people are treating you...' (10)

There is a difference between the behavior of the editors of the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists and the AAAS scientists. However, the difference is of degree. While the Bulletin acted crassly and openly to suppress Velikovsky's work, the AAAS scientists acted subtly and cunningly to give the appearance to the public of holding an open forum which was all the while a public relations gimmick to accomplish the same ends. We shall return to this irrational aspect of the AAAS scientist further on.

Sagan proceeds, "The idea of science as a method rather than as a body of knowledge is not duly appreciated outside of science, or indeed in some corridors inside of science. For this reason and some of my colleagues in the American Association for the Advancement of Science have advocated a regular set of discussions at the annual AAAS meeting of hypotheses that are on the borderline of science and that have attracted substantial public interest. The idea is not to attempt to settle such issues definitively, but rather to illustrate the process of reasoned disputation to show how scientists approach a problem that does not lend itself to crisp examination, or is unorthodox in its interdisciplinary nature or otherwise evokes strong emotions.' (11) Commendably Sagan asks for 'reasoned disputation' as the proper approach to Velikovsky's 'unorthodox' and 'interdisciplinary' material especially materials 'that have attracted substantial public interest.'

RELIGION, ASTROLOGY, SUPERSTITION

Sagan continues. "Vigorous criticism of new ideas is a commonplace in science. While the style Of the criticism may vary with the character of the critic, overly polite criticism benefits neither the proponents of new ideas nor the scientific enterprise. Any substantive objection is permissible and encouraged, the only exception being ad hominem attacks on the personality or motives of the author are excluded.' (12) This statement though laudable is, however, belied by Sagan impugning the motives of Velikovsky wherein he states '...how is it that Worlds in Collision has been so popular? Here I can only guess. For one thing, it is an attempted validation of religion. The old Biblical stories are literally true, Velikovsky tells us, if only we interpret them in the right way... Velikovsky attempts to rescue not only religion but also astrology ; the outcomes of wars, the fates of whole peoples, are determined by the position of the planets.' (13) (emphasis added)

This undisguised slur on Velikovsky's motives by Sagan was strongly responded to by Velikovsky when he stated,

'Sagan next presents 'Velikovsky's Principal Hypothesis' and he purports faithfully to tell what it is... Sagan states, 'at the moment Moses strikes his staff upon the rock, the Red Sea parts... 'Later, 'after the death of Moses... the same comet comes screeching back for another grazing collision with the Earth. At the moment when Joshua says. 'Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon and thou Moon, in the Valley of Agalon'... the Earth obligingly ceases its rotation.' He (Sagan) later says that I, 'attempt to rescue old time religion.' To tell of Velikovsky's principal hypothesis in this vein is nothing but purposely misleading.' (14)

Velikovsky was justifiably incensed because, in Worlds in Collision, just the opposite information was presented, 'The sea was torn apart. The people attributed this act to the intervention of their leader; he lifted his staff over the waters and they divided. Of course there is no person who can do this and no staff with which it can be done. Likewise in the case of Joshua who commanded the sun and the Moon to halt their movements." (15) To attribute to Velikovsky information which he never presented in his book is essentially an ad hominem attack on Velikovsky's personality and motives. The earlier laudable statements of Sagan are contradicted by his own words.

What is Velikovsky's view of religion, astrology and superstition? In Earth in Upheaval, Velikovsky presented his opinion regarding Darwin and The Church on evolution.

'Darwin's theory represented progress as compared with the teaching of the Church. The Church assumed a world without change since the beginning. Darwin introduced the principle of slow but steady change in one direction from one age to another, from one eon to another. In comparison with the Church's teaching of immutability, Darwin's theory of slow evolution through natural selection or the survival of the fittest was an advance.' (16)

Sagan's view that Velikovsky's hypothesis is 'an attempted validation of religion' does not correspond with this statement. If Velikovsky wished to validate religion. his position should have been lust the opposite. Sagan also claims that "Velikovsky attempts to rescue... astrology." Astrology is a pseudoscience which holds that our destiny is determined by where the planets and the sun and Moon are in the twelve signs of the zodiac. Velikovsky does say that when a planet on a cometary orbit nearly collided with the Earth whole nations were destroyed. This is not astrology. Astrology holds that certain days are unlucky while others are lucky. In particular, the thirteenth day of the month is astrologically unlucky. Here is what Velikovsky has to say regarding the thirteenth day of the month,

'In the calendar of the Western Hemisphere on the thirteenth day of the month. called olin, 'motion' or 'Earthquake'. a new sun is said to have initiated another world age...' (The Earth experienced a global catastrophe.)

'Here we have en passant the answer to the open question concerning the origin of the superstition which regards the number 13, and especially the thirteenth day, as unlucky and inauspicious. It is still the belief of many superstitious persons, unchanged through thousands of years and even expressed in the same terms: the thirteenth day is a very bad day. You shall not do anything on this day.' (17)

Again Sagan's claim is not supported by Velikovsky's statements. It is difficult to conclude that Velikovsky, who calls people 'superstitious', that believe the thirteenth day of the month unlucky is in any way a validation of astrology.

Lastly, Sagan's remarks regarding Moses and Joshua suggest that Velikovsky accepts supernatural causes for events. In Age of Chaos. Velikovsky tells us,

'The biblical story of the last plague [of Exodus] has a distinctly supernatural quality in that all the firstborn and only the firstborn were killed on the night of the plagues. An Earthquake that destroys only the firstborn in inconceivable because events can never attain that degree of coincidence. No credit should be given to such a record.

'Either the story of the last plague, in its canonized form. is a fiction, or it conceals a corruption of the text.' (18)

In this case it is also rather clear that Velikovsky rejected the idea that there is a supernatural cause of events.

In the first three major works of Velikovsky: Worlds in Collision, Earth in Upheaval and Ages in Chaos, are concise statements that indicate Sagan's impugning Velikovsky's motives and evidence are thoroughly misinformed. When Velikovsky called Darwin's theory an advance over the teachings of the Church, he was not rescuing religion; when he called people who believe the thirteenth day of the month unlucky, "superstitious", he was not defending astrology; and when he held that the biblical story of the last plague of the Exodus, in which only the firstborn are killed, was "supernatural", "inconceivable" and "no credit should be given to such a record', he was attacking supernatural interpretation of events.

Eric Larrabee remarks that Velikovsky's thesis, "in no way involved the supernatural, even by implication. Either Velikovsky's thesis could be proven scientifically or it would fall to pieces. Far from seeking to confirm fundamentalist beliefs (as he was accused of doing) he offered them the most fundamental challenge of all, which was to provide a natural interpretation of 'miraculous' events rather than merely to dismiss them as legendary.' (19) In fact, at the symposium at which Sagan presented his paper, one of his colleagues, Dr. Derral Mulholland argued that 'Velikovsky's challenge is not one to be decided on the basis of belief or unbelief. He does not say 'trust me', he says 'this conclusion is suggested by the observations' that involve testable ideas. He is not a mystic.' (20) Thus, Sagan's smear of Velikovsky's motives is even denied by Mulholland.

Sagan states in Broca's Brain, page 84 that "Catastophism began largely in the minds of geologists who accepted a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis, and in particular, the account of the Noahic flood." How accurate is this statement?

What Velikovsky had done was employ the Bible and folklore and legends of ancient people to show that ancient man witnessed global catastrophes. His approach is similar to that of Georges Cuvier, the founder and father of the science of paleontology -- the study of fossils. Stephen Jay Gould, the well-known Harvard biologist and historian of science says this about Cuvier's method of employing the Bible and folklore and legends of ancient people to prove that there was a universal flood in ancient times.

'Cuvier's methodology may have been naive, but one can only admire his trust in nature and his zeal for building a world by direct and patient observation, rather than by fiat, or unconstrained feats of patient imagination. His rejection of received doctrine as a source of necessary truth is perhaps most apparent in the section of the Discours preliminaire that might seem superficially, to tout the Bible as infallible -- his defense of Noah's flood. He does argue for a world-wide flood some five thousand years ago, and he does cite the Bible as support. But his thirty-page discussion is a literary and ethnographic compendium of all traditions from Chaldean to Chinese. And we soon realize that Cuvier has subtly reversed the usual apologetic tradition. He does not invoke geology and non-Christian thought as window dressing for 'how do I know, the Bible tells me so.' Rather, he uses the Bible as a single source among many of equal merit as he searches for clues to unravel the Earth's history. Noah's tale is but one local and highly imperfect rendering of the last major paroxysm.' (21) Gould has remarked '...it seems unjust that catastrophists, (like Cuvier) who almost followed a caricature of objectivity and fidelity to nature, should be saddled with a charge that they abandoned the real world for their Bibles.' (22)

The same year as Gould's statement regarding Cuvier was published, Velikovsky wrote in Stargazers and Gravediggers, (N.Y. 1983) p. 284,

'In the astronomer's view, there can be no greater effrontery than the questioning of their truths and nothing enrages them more than to challenge such a perfect science by recourse, horrible dictu, to the Scriptures as a historical document. That Worlds in Collision contains much folklore, or 'old wives' tales', was not so ludicrous as the fact that it brought the Old Testament back into the debate. The citation of passages from the Vedas, the Koran, and Mexican holy books was not so insulting as quotations from the Hebrew Bible. It is irrelevant that this book is among the most ancient of written literary documents in existence. As the theologian believes with blind faith that the Scriptures contain only truth, that their authorship is from God, and therefore, that every verse in them can be quoted as an irresistible argument. so the astronomer believes that where a passage is reproduced from the Scriptures, there must be a blunder, a softening of the brain tissue, or an attempt to hoax the credulous, as if the Scriptures were written by the devil.

'To my way of thinking, these books of the Old Testament are of human origin; though inspired, they are not infallible and must be handled in a scientific manner as other literary documents of great antiquity. Yet I must admit that I had a share of satisfaction upon discovering that the so-called miracles of the Hebrew Bible were physical phenomena, and like the disturbance [seen by] other peoples of great antiquity in different parts of the world, they are also found preserved in the ancient literature of other nations.'

Like Cuvier, Velikovsky 'uses the Bible as a single source among many of equal merit as he searches for clues to unravel the Earth's history." The charge brought by Sagan against Velikovsky's aims and motives is precisely the same as that he used to describe the early catastrophists and is described by Gould of the attack upon Cuvier.

Velikovsky had become reacquainted with Professor Albert Einstein while both lived at Princeton, and Einstein did read Worlds in Collision, which he often discussed with Velikovsky. What was Einstein's opinion? He stated, 'not once and not twice but also in the presence of his secretary: 'The scientists make a grave mistake in not studying your book [Worlds in Collision] because of the exceedingly important material it contains.' (23) Was Albert Einstein so naive as to believe that Velikovsky was presenting his book, Worlds in Collision, to validate religion, astrology and the supernatural? The week of Einstein's death he was rereading Worlds in Collision because evidence from Jupiter had confirmed one of Velikovsky's predictions.

R.F. Shaw writes in Nature (June 13, 1985, page 536) "Critics have made much of Velikovsky's alleged appeal to the ignorant and also to his supposed religious motivation, something never documented and which I do not find in his books." (emphasis added)

Thus, Sagan's accusation that Velikovsky eschewed scientific evidence to support his theory is without substance. Stephen J. Gould's comment in Times Arrow Times Cycle, (Cambridge, MA 1987, page 113), applies to Sagan's accusation of Velikovsky: "What a vulgar misrepresentation! Cuvier, perhaps the finest intellectual in the nineteenth century was a child of the French Enlightenment who viewed dogmatic theology as anathema in science. He was a great empiricist who believed in the literal interpretation of geological phenomena... His Earth, though subject to intermittent paroxysm was as ancient as Lyel's.' The reader shall see that in the fourth problem there is much geological evidence that supports Velikovsky's view for a recent catastrophe to the Earth.

HOW SCIENCE OPERATES

When Sagan upholds the objective scientific model of debate it seems strangely at odds with his statements. Why then did Sagan resort to such tactics? Here, Velikovsky's words may indicate causes.

'As my opponent for the fourth tournament, the astronomical establishment selected Sagan. To answer his nearly 90 pages and nearly 30,000 words (1976 version), I am left with barely one-tenth of that amount, though an answer usually requires more space than an accusation, especially those that are bland and unsupported: I must first state what the charge was, then state what the truth is, what I really wrote, etc., and then present the evidence for what I said... therefore, I am in the position of standing against the entire establishment, though greatly limited as to space and time, and blindfolded as to any additional counter arguments my opponents may bring before I see the printed book. I am not abandoning the project and will do my best under the circumstances, to the limits of what decency can tolerate.' (24)

Therefore when Sagan remarks, 'The objective of such criticism [namely his own or that of the AAAS scientists] is not to suppress but rather to encourage the advance of new ideas.' it is cynically amusing since it has been shown that the AAAS scientists used none of Sagan's criteria in dealing with Velikovsky. Sagan continues. 'those [papers] that survive a firm skeptical scrutiny have a fighting chance of being right or at least useful.' (25) How can a response which is censored by being limited in presenting a full answer have a chance of being fairly evaluated? Such a tactic is devised strictly to suppress rather than to encourage the advance of new ideas.

Sagan states. "My own view is that no matter how unorthodox the reasoning process or how unpalatable the conclusions, there is no excuse for any attempt to suppress new ideas -- least of all by scientists." (26) If this is so, why didn't Sagan or any of the AAAS scientists demand that Velikovsky be given sufficient time and space in the publication to answer all attacks ? Why did he and they take part in a blatantly one sided debate where the scholar under attack was so unfairly treated?

Frederic B. Jueneman, Director of Research for Innovative Concepts Associates of San Jose, chemist, and columnist discussed the AAAS symposium.

'Jueneman called (Ivan) King [one of the symposium's organizers] to inquire about the symposium and the events which led to it. According to Jueneman. King stated that the intent was to take another look at Velikovsky's work since there was renewed interest in it. He also said that the participants would be from the hard sciences, which do not include sociology.

'Jueneman asked if it might be a move to stem criticism of the AAAS for the actions of its members in the Velikovsky affair. King replied that to some extent it was, but that only individual members of the AAAS were involved in the excesses against Velikovsky, not the AAAS itself...

'Soon it became apparent that the organizers of the symposium had no intention of pursuing a scientific discussion. King later said, 'None of us in the scientific establishment believes that a debate about Velikovsky's views of the Solar System would be remotely justified at a serious scientific meeting.' It is clear therefore, that the meeting was arranged, as Jueneman said, to be a contemporary court of inquisition, and that the discussion was designed to convince the public that they should ignore the increasing number of scientists who were taking the time to analyze Velikovsky's work. Since the organizers admitted that they did not consider the meeting a scientific one, perhaps that is how they justified to themselves, the misleading and sometimes false statements used to support their position.' (27)

Actually the full statement by Ivan King is as follows:

'What disturbs the scientists is the persistence of these [Velikovsky's] views, in spite of all the efforts that scientists have spent on educating the public. It is in this context that the AAAS undertakes the Velikovsky symposium. Although the symposium necessarily includes a presentation Of opposing views, we do not consider this to be the primary purpose of the symposium. None of us in the scientific establishment believes that a debate about Velikovsky's views... would be remotely justified at a serious scientific meeting. '

Mark Washburn in his book, Mars at Last, (N.Y. 1977), page 95, states,

"There is something to be said for Velikovsky's side of it, however. To continue the structure-of-science metaphor a little longer, Velikovsky argued that the scientific establishment had constructed its own castle, complete with moat, drawbridge and battlements. If you didn't belong to the club, you weren't welcome. There was no room for the radical theorist who had new ideas about how the structure should be built.

"There was enough truth in Velikovsky's charges to make the scientific establishment uncomfortable. It was a difficult situation. If they debated VeIikovsky's theories in the same manner as they would the theories of a reputable scientist, they would be lending legitimacy to a man who had perverted the principles of science... But if they refused to debate Velikovsky,it would seam that they were afraid of him.'

Based on Ivan King's remarks and those of Washburn. the scientific establishment set up the AAAS symposium on Velikovsky not to debate Velikovsky's theories in the same honest and respectful manner as they would the theories of members of the their club. To do so would imply that Velikovsky's work was scientific. Therefore. Washburn and King are telling us that Velikovsky's work was not discussed in the same way as that of other scientists, that is, the rules of the debate were no longer to be carried out in an honest and respectful manner. In fact, the concept of objectivity had been thrown out the window. The aim of the meeting was to discredit and not evaluate Velikovsky's work. What appears to be obvious, at the outset, is that the ugly clannish passions of the scientific establishment had come to rule reasoned debate. George Orwell in his book 1984 called this 'double speak', which for Orwell meant 'double talk'. The debate was not a debate. The outsider was to be destroyed. And as Sagan said. 'overly polite criticism' was not to be employed.

Therefore, the meaning of Sagan's statement. "I am very pleased that the AAAS held a discussion on Worlds in Collision, in which Velikovsky took part' (28) seems clear. Sagan took part in a meeting that the organizer said, 'None of us in the scientific establishment (including. of course, Carl Sagan) believes that a serious debate about Velikovsky's views... would be remotely justified at a serious scientific meeting.'

PEER REVIEW

Sagan discusses how scientific papers are properly dealt with in science journals. He tells us that 'Most scientists are accustomed to receiving... referees' criticisms every time they submit a paper to a scientific journal. Almost always the criticisms are helpful. Often a paper revised to take these critiques into account is subsequently accepted for publications.' (29) In total, Sagan suggests that a scientific hypothesis offered to the scientific community be subject to review by peers -- other scientists -- that it be published in recognized science journals and that the submitter comply with valid criticisms.

The question arises does Sagan himself always follow 'procedure'? In recent years Carl Sagan has become the leading exponent of a very controversial theory termed "Nuclear Winter." This hypothesis offers an explanation for the death of the dinosaurs. If a meteor about six kilometers in diameter struck the Earth 65 million years ago, Sagan claims that the dust thrown into the atmosphere and the smoke from forest fires would be so great as to have blocked sufficient sunlight from reaching the Earth and thus caused a global freeze which he calls "nuclear winter". Sagan further claims an atomic war would produce the same effect. However, in the 'News and Comment' section of Science, an organ of the AAAS, Sagan's use of scientific procedure is subjected to criticism:

'A study by the National Center for Atmospheric Research suggests most of the world would experience a mild nuclear winter, not a deep freeze... (however) the best known presenter of the original theory, Carl Sagan of Cornell, claims there is 'nothing new' to make him alter his description of nuclear winter or the conclusions drawn from it... Sagan's refusal to acknowledge merit in the NCAR's (Nat. Cent. for Atmos. Res.) analysis '- known as 'nuclear autumn -- sends some people up the wall. One wall climber is George Rathjens, professor of political science at M.I.T... 'Is this another case of Lysenkoism?' he asks, referring to an erroneous genetic theory forced on Soviet scientists in the late 1940's... Rathjens answers himself: 'I am afraid there's a certain amount of truth in that. The claim that 'the original nuclear winter model is unimpeached', he adds, is 'the greatest fraud we've seen in a long time'... [this has led to other criticisms of Sagan's theory]. One such attack by Russell Seitz, a fellow et Harvard's Center for International Affairs, appeared recently in The National Interest, a Washington D.C. quarterly, and the Wall Street Journal. Seitz. who is not a diploma-holding scientist gibes at TTAPS's [Sagan and his co-authors] for mixing of physics and advertising. Seitz notes that Sagan published the nuclear winter thesis in Parade magazine a month before it appeared In Science. He writes: 'The peer review process at Parade presumably consists in the contributing editor conversing with the writer, perhaps while shaving -- Sagan is both.' Anyone who wants to verify the data on which the conclusions were based, according to Seitz, has to set off on a paper chase' [Sagan's conclusions] rested on an unpublished... Science article, 'details may be found in (15).' Reference 15 states ln full: 'R.P. Turco. O.B. Toon, T.P. Ackerman, J.B. Pollack, C. Sagan in preparation.' It refers to a paper that has never been published in a peer-reviewed (or any other) journal. Rathjens also grumbles about the hard to get data. The entire thesis, he says. is 'a house of cards built on reference 15.' (30).'

Nor did Sagan's first Nuclear Winter article in Science benefit from the standard review process.

Did Velikovsky play by the rules of peer review that Sagan suggests? Before publication of Worlds in Collision, Velikovsky reported in Stargazers and Gravediggers. (N.Y. 1983). p. 87. 'The book was given to the [peer review] censors... [Velikovsky] was not informed of what was going on... As [he] heard... at a much later date. in 1952, two of the three censors were for the publication of the book, and one was against.'

Thus, it is quite clear that Velikovsky's book Worlds in Collision was evaluated by the peer review process that Sagan requires. On this matter of peer review, it appears that Velikovsky's book passed the review while Carl Sagan's paper on nuclear winter essentially bypassed the review process. The only suggestion that seems to offer itself is that Sagan should follow his own advice.

When Sagan states. '...the reasoned criticism of a prevailing belief is a service to the proponents of that belief; if they are incapable of defending it, they are well advised to abandon it. This self-questioning and error correcting aspect of the scientific method is its most striking property.' (31) What is observed is that Sagan neither subscribes to nor follows the ideals he so readily professes. Hence it is suggested that Sagan follow his own advice. It is further suggested that the AAAS scientists ignored not only the high ideals to which Sagan alludes. but that they ignored the simple cannons of ordinary decency.

As I heard it, Sagan was running around telling people that the oil fires in Kuwait were going to cause a nuclear winter. Somehow, from the author of the "super greenhouse" theory, that doesn't really surprise me.





53 posted on 01/12/2006 4:12:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
Velikovsky was a moron. Nice to know your idol. :)
54 posted on 01/12/2006 4:14:27 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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The Russian-born scholar was a friend and colleague of Albert Einstein, a student of Freud's first pupil Wilhelm Stekel, and Israel's first practicing psychoanalyst. Some of his writings appeared in Freud's Imago. In 1930 he published the first paper to suggest that epileptics would be characterized by abnormal encephalograms. He was the founder and editor of the scholarly publication, Scripta Universitatis, the physics and mathematics section being prepared by Einstein.

It was while researching a book on Freud and his heroes that Velikovsky first wondered about the catastrophes said to have accompanied the Hebrew Exodus, when fire and hailstones rained upon Egypt, earthquakes decimated the nation, and a pillar of fire and smoke moved in the sky. Biblical and other traditional Hebrew sources speak so vividly that Velikovsky began to wonder if some extraordinary natural event might have played a part in the Exodus.

To explore this possibility, Velikovsky sought out a corresponding account in ancient Egyptian records, finding a remarkable parallel in a papyrus kept at the University of Leyden Museum, called the Papyrus Ipuwer. The document contains the lamentations of an Egyptian sage in response to a great catastrophe overwhelming Egypt, when the rivers ran red, fire blazed in the sky, and pestilence ravaged the land.

Velikovsky also encountered surprising parallels in Babylonian and Assyrian clay tablets, Vedic poems, Chinese epics, and North American Indian, Maya, Aztec, and Peruvian legends. From these remarkably similar accounts, he constructed a thesis of celestial catastrophe. He concluded that a very large body -- apparently a "comet" -- passed close enough to Earth to violently perturb its axis, as global earthquakes, wind and falling stone decimated early civilizations.

Before Velikovsky could complete his reconstruction, he had to resolve an enigma. He had found that in the accounts of far-flung cultures, the cometary agent of disaster was identified as a planet. And the closer he looked, the more clear it became to him that this planet was Venus: The converging ancient images include the Babylonian "torch-star" Venus and "bearded star" Venus, the Mexican "smoking star" Venus, the Peruvian "long-haired" star Venus, the Egyptian Great Star "scattering its flame in fire" and the widespread imagery of Venus as a flaming serpent or dragon in the sky. In each instance, the cometary language is undeniable, for these were the very symbols of "the comet" in the ancient languages.

By following the evidence, Velikovsky discovered that Venus holds a special place among the world's first astronomers. In both the Old World and the New, ancient stargazers regarded Venus with awe and terror, carefully observing its risings and settings, and claiming the planet to be the cause of world-ending catastrophe. These astronomical traditions, Velikovsky reasoned, must have had roots in a traumatic human experience, though modern science has always assumed that the planets evolved in quiet and undisturbed isolation over billions of years.

Based on extensive cross-cultural comparison, Velikovsky concluded that the planet Venus, prior to the dawn of recorded history, was ejected violently from the gas giant Jupiter, displaying a spectacular comet-like tail. Its later catastrophic approach to the Earth (around 1500 B.C.) provided the historical backdrop to the Hebrew Exodus, Velikovsky claimed.

In Worlds in Collision, Velikovsky argued that the terrifying "gods" of the ancient world were planets -- those inconspicuous specks of light we see moving with clock-like regularity, as if to deny their chaotic roles in the past. The book recounted two close encounters of the comet or protoplanet Venus with the Earth. Included in the same volume was a large section on the ancient war god, whom Velikovsky identified as the planet Mars. He claimed that centuries after the Venus catastrophes, Mars moved on an unstable orbit intersecting that of Earth, leading to a series of Earth-disturbing events in the eighth and seventh centuries B.C.

With the first reviews of the book, the publisher Macmillan came under fire from astronomers and scientists. But sales of Worlds in Collision skyrocketed, and it quickly soared to the top of the bestseller lists. Dr. Harlow Shapley, director the Harvard Observatory, branded the book "nonsense and rubbish," but without reading it. A letter from Shapley to Macmillan threatened a boycott of the company's textbook division. The astronomer Fred Whipple threatened to break his relations with the publisher. Under pressure from the scientific community, Macmillan was forced to transfer publishing rights to Doubleday, though Worlds in Collision was already the number one bestseller in the country. Macmillan editor James Putnam, who had been with the company for 25 years and had negotiated the contract for Worlds in Collision, was summarily dismissed.

In the wake of Macmillan's publication of Worlds in Collision, one scientific journal after another denounced Velikovsky's work. The eminent astronomer and textbook author Donald Menzel publicly ridiculed Velikovsky. Astronomer Cecilia-Payne Gaposchkin launched a campaign to discredit Velikovsky, without reading Worlds in Collision. The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists produced a series of articles grossly misrepresenting Velikovsky. And Gordon Atwater, curator of the respected Hayden Planetarium, was fired after having proposed in This Week Magazine that Velikovsky's work deserved open-minded discussion.

For many years after publication of Worlds in Collision, Velikovsky was persona non grata on college campuses. He was denied the opportunity to publish articles in scientific journals. When he attempted to respond to critical articles in such journals, they rejected these responses. The attitude of established science was typified by the reactions of astronomers. Michigan astronomer Dean McLaughlin exclaimed, "Lies -- yes lies." In response to a correspondent, astronomer Harold Urey, wrote: "My advice to you is to shut the book and never look at it again in your lifetime."

For Velikovsky, this was the beginning of a personal "dark age". But remarkably, his friendship with Albert Einstein was unaffected, and Einstein met with him often, maintaining an extended correspondence as well, encouraging Velikovksy to look past the misbehavior of the scientific elite. In discussion with Einstein, Velikovsky predicted that Jupiter would be found to emit radio noises, and he urged Einstein to use his influence to have Jupiter surveyed for radio emission, though Einstein himself disputed Velikovsky's reasoning. But in April 1955 radio noises were discovered from Jupiter, much to the surprise of scientists who had thought Jupiter was too cold and inactive to emit radio waves. That discovery led Einstein to agree to assist in developing other tests of Velikovsky's thesis. But the world's most prominent scientist died only a few weeks later.

Velikovsky expected other discoveries through space exploration. He claimed that the planet Venus would be found to be extremely hot, since in his reconstruction, the planet was "candescent" in historical times. His thesis also implied the likelihood of a massive Venusian atmosphere, residue of its former "cometary" tail. And he claimed that the Earth would be found to have a magnetosphere reaching at least to the moon, because he was convinced that in historical times the Earth exchanged electrical charge with other planetary bodies.

Arrival of the space age was a critical juncture for Velikovsky, as data returned from the Moon, from Mars, and from Venus begin to recast our views of these celestial bodies. In 1959, Dr. Van Allen discovered that the Earth has a magnetosphere. In the early sixties, scientists realized, much to their surprise, that the planet Venus has a surface temperature as high as 900 degrees Fahrenheit, hot enough to melt lead. "The temperature is much higher than anyone would have predicted," wrote Cornell Mayer.

Things grew more promising for Velikovsky. In 1962, two scientists, Valentin Bargmann, professor of physics at Princeton, and Lloyd Motz, professor of astronomy at Columbia, urged that Velikovsky's conclusions "be objectively re-examined." In support of this reconsideration, they cited his prior predictions about radio noises from Jupiter, the terrestrial magnetosphere, and an unexpectedly high temperature of Venus.

In July 1969, on the eve of the first landing on the Moon, the New York Times invited Velikovsky to summarize what he expected the Apollo missions to find. Velikovsky responded by listing nine "advance claims," including remanent magnetism, a steep thermal gradient, radioactive hot spots, and regular moonquakes. All told, it was a remarkably accurate summation of later findings. But still, the scientific community was silent.

Then, in 1972, at the invitation of the Society of Harvard Engineers and Scientists, Velikovsky returned to the site from which the original boycott was launched. His presentation produced a standing ovation. "I survived, as you see," he said. "I have been waiting for this evening for 22 years. I came here to find the young, the spirited, the men who have a fascination for discovery."

Also in 1972, a small student journal in Portland, Oregon called Pensée began publishing a series of full issues devoted to Velikovsky, with contributions from the pioneer himself. The Pensée series "Immanuel Velikovsky Reconsidered" recounted the history of the Velikovsky affair, bringing international attention to the scientific misbehavior involved, and reviewing space age findings lending support to Velikovsky's revolutionary thesis of planetary catastrophe. Clearly, it was time for a reassessment of Velikovsky's work, and the Pensée series produced a groundswell of interest in the Velikovsky debate. The first issue became the number one best seller on several college campuses and inspired stories in Readers Digest, Analog, Time, Newsweek, Physics Today, National Observer, and many other publications.

Now filled with optimism, Velikovsky began receiving numerous invitations from university campuses. The British Broadcasting Corporation produced a special documentary on Velikovsky, shown twice because of popular interest. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation also showed a documentary on Velikovsky. And an international symposium was held in Toronto, Ontario. Velikovsky also gave a talk at the NASA Ames Research Center, suggesting experiments and procedures to test his claims.

For about two years after the appearance of "Immanuel Velikovsky Reconsidered," the scientific elite remained eerily quiet. The resurrection of a heretic, long presumed dead, seemed all too easy.

Then came a counterattack through the American Association for the Advancement of Science. America's largest scientific organization scheduled a symposium on Worlds in Collision for an "open discussion of Velikovsky." The proceedings of the 1974 San Francisco AAAS gathering would feature the popular astronomer Carl Sagan in a direct "debate" with Velikovsky.

The gathering had all the trappings of a media event, and like so many such events, it brought no clarity to the subject at all. Yet for years afterward it was dutifully remembered in mainstream journals as the "definitive refutation" of Velikovsky.

The AAAS meeting was the beginning of a relentless campaign against Velikovsky. In the years that followed, Sagan devoted a substantial section of each book he published to debunking Velikovsky. And science editors of newspapers across the country, no longer accustomed to looking up anything for themselves, simply reported what they were told by local astronomers: the Velikovsky question was now a dead issue.

Before he died in 1979, Velikovsky grew darkly pessimistic, telling those close to him that the battle was over, that the critics had won. Mainstream science, he said, would never permit an objective hearing on the subject of Worlds in Collision.

But in the awakening of public interest seven years earlier, something had occurred that Velikovsky did not anticipate. Even as the controversy faded into the background, a number of independent researchers labored quietly in their own fields, seeking out the remaining pieces of the puzzle Velikovsky had laid before them. Unanswered questions ranging from the role of electricity in the universe to the mysteries of Venus and the origins of ancient mythology would preoccupy these researchers for decades. For several of them, the investigation emerged as a life's work. Over the years they began to communicate with each other, then to actively collaborate, while developing quiet liaison with open-minded authorities in the sciences and in the study of the human past.

Today, almost fifty-five years after publication of Worlds in Collision, those who forged this independent inquiry WILL be heard. They are no longer dependent on established journals and academic institutions to gain a public hearing. Though the Internet is a "virtual-world" carnival, it is also an unprecedented vehicle for mobilizing communication. When official pronouncements are filled with misrepresentations, these CAN be answered. And people are now communicating with each other at lightning speed.

As for misrepresentations: David Morrison began by describing Velikovsky as a "loner" who would not submit his ideas for scholarly or scientific review. McCanney did not challenge the statement, but AGREED with it. Yet the assertion is LUDICROUS. Einstein discoursed with Velikovsky for years, and the two met privately at Einstein's residence innumerable times. Velikovsky took every opportunity to communicate directly with leading authorities in the sciences. Without this diligence the astronomers Bargmann and Motz (noted above) would never have called for an open consideration of Velikovsky's hypothesis. Of course there were many who already "knew" that Velikovsky could not be correct, but others responded with personal meetings and extended correspondence. The preeminent French archaeologist Claude Schaeffer certainly saw SOMETHING in Velikovsky's claims. Their communication spanned years. On the vital issue of dating ancient cultures, Schaefer wrote to Velikovsky, "You will be the first among those who get the information before my publication I am not concerned with opinions and chronological schemes, but only with the advance of our knowledge."

The distinguished Harvard historian Robert Pfeifer, former chairman of the Department of Semitic Languages at Harvard, showed a strong personal interest in Velikovsky's work and took personal initiative on his behalf. Well before the publication of Velikvosky's Ages in Chaos, Pfeiffer wrote in 1942, "I regard this work--provocative as it is--of fundamental importance." And in 1945: "I am firmly convinced that the publication of this book would be of immense value to historical studies."

Velikovsky's ability to anticipate scientific discovery produced a surprising statement from the renowned geologist Harry Hess, chairman of the Department of Geology at Princeton, with whom Velikovsky conversed continuously. In an open letter to Velikovsky in 1963, Hess wrote: "Some of these predictions were said to be impossible when you made them. All of them were predicted long before proof that they were correct came to hand. Conversely, I do not know of any specific prediction you made that has since been proven to be false. I suspect the merit lies in that you have a good basic background in the natural sciences and you are quite uninhibited by the prejudices and probability taboos which confine the thinking of most of us."

Other scientists and social scientists that showed deep interest in Velikovsky's work included astronomer Walter S Adams; archaeologist Cyrus Gordon; and Horace Kallen, one of America's most respected scholars. In 1950, when Worlds in Collision came out, Kallen was a personal friend of Harlow Shapley, the Harvard astronomer who led the original scientific attack on Velikovsky. But later, Kallen recounted Shapley's role in the "Velikovsky Affair," and he ridiculed the hasty and pretentious manner in which the defenders of orthodoxy had dismissed Velikovsky's hypothesis.

Kallen's biting criticism of scientific dogmatism is every bit as appropriate today as it was 30 years ago. In the debate with McCanney, Morrison opined that Velikovsky may have sounded intelligent to the untrained, but that when you look more closely, "nothing is there." Velikovsky was "simply wrong," said Morrison, "demonstrably wrong."

Here, on the other hand, is the opinion of the two authors of Thunderbolts of the Gods, each having investigated the thesis of Worlds in Collision for more than three decades. David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill write: "The authors of this book believe that Velikovsky was incorrect on many particulars, some of them crucial to a proper understanding of ancient events. But his place among the great pioneers of science will be secure if he was correct on the underlying tenets"

Talbott and Thornhill do not accept Velikovsky's specific chronology of events, and they place the age of planetary upheaval just prior to the flowering of monumental civilization, which they see as a creative act of human REMEMBERING. Rather than declare Velikovsky to be categorically "right" or "wrong", they cite these claims as crucial to any assessment of Velikovsky's contribution to science--

1. The present order of the planets is new. In geologically recent times the planetary system was unstable, and at least some planets moved on much different courses than they do today.

2. Erratic movements of the planets led to global catastrophe on Earth.

3. Through rigorous cross-cultural comparison of the ancient traditions, an investigator can reconstruct the celestial dramas.

One more principle must also be included, according to the authors. Velikovsky said that the key to reconciling his claims with scientific theory would be ELECTROMAGNETISM, a force in which astronomers and cosmologists had no interest in 1950. He stated that if the Sun and the planets are not the "electrically neutral" bodies astronomers assume, then even "the law of gravitation must come into question."

In the years since Velikovsky wrote these words, a new perspective has emerged from space age discovery. A universe teeming with charged particles-the "Electric Universe" of Wallace Thornhill and others -- is redefining everything we see in space. But you would not know this by listening to David Morrison, whose words still echo the electrically inactive, purely gravitational 1950's vision of the heavens.

The electrical theorists say that the picture of the universe has changed, and all of the theoretical sciences will give way to a revolution in human understanding. The authors of Thunderbolts of the Gods summarize the new view in these words:

"From the smallest particle to the largest galactic formation, a web of electrical circuitry connects and unifies all of nature, organizing galaxies, energizing stars, giving birth to planets and, on our own world, controlling weather and animating biological organisms. There are no isolated islands in an 'electric universe.'"

The confidence of the electrical theorists comes from the testability of the hypothesis. Its every component leads to implications and predictions that can be either confirmed or falsified through direct investigation. A comparison of this approach to that taken by David Morrison may be instructive, so let's go back to the "beginning," cosmically speaking:

MODERN COSMOLOGY AND THE BIG BANG

Morrison expressed supreme confidence in the Big Bang, one of the most popular themes in scientific speculation today. The Big Bang is well supported and secure, he said, and we see "no contradictory evidence." Here he was only reflecting the posture of official science. Most institutions receiving Federal funds for the study of cosmological questions will state the Big Bang and its corollaries as fact, and then tell us how well everything is going thanks to their latest discoveries. For a large number of astronomers, this is what it takes for their funding to be renewed next year. Since Morrison himself is included in this political game, we have every reason to be skeptical.

Here's the truth: Scientific confidence in the Big Bang has already collapsed. The dogmatic Doppler interpretation of redshift (shifting of light from distant galaxies toward red on the light spectrum) has crashed and burned. It was this uncompromising interpretation of redshift that led astronomers to place newly discovered, strongly redshifted quasars at the farthest reaches of the universe. But now we know that quasars are found in energetic and physical connection to nearby galaxies. We've even seen a quasar in front of a nearby galaxy. All of the most critical evidence is now against the Big Bang. See: Big Bang Broken and Can't Be Fixed.

But should this come as a surprise? Plasma cosmologists--including such distinguished authorities as Anthony Peratt of Los Alamos Laboratories and astrophysicist Eric Lerner--have long argued that the pillar of Big Bang reasoning is refuted by what we see in space and what we observe in scientific experiments. In fact, the world's leading authority on peculiar galaxies, astronomer Halton Arp, has been warning the astronomical community for decades now that it is following a dead-end path. He paid for these warnings dearly, losing his telescope time and being forced to move to Germany to carry on his work at the Max Planck Institute. Its too bad Halton Arp and Immanuel Velikovsky never had a chance to compare notes on the role of sacred cows in the sciences.

Peratt, Thornhill, Fred Hoyle, Margaret and Geoffrey Burbidge, and many others have long claimed that astronomers were overlooking evidence essential to the question of redshift. There is evidence that plasma discharge can produce intrinsic redshift--that is, redshift with no inherent relationship to velocity or distance. Our own Sun exhibits an unexplained excess redshift at its limb. This is no small matter. If plasma discharge is involved, the electrically neutral universe of the 1950's must be abandoned once and for all. And we're not talking about a small problem here, but the biggest mistake science has made in modern times. Virtually all of the theoretical sciences have been held captive by the same conjecture, which started as a guess, then hardened into the pretentiousness of pure mathematics, divorced from the rigors of observation and experiment.

THE NEBULAR THEORY OF PLANETARY ORIGINS

From start to finish, Morrison refused to acknowledge the distinction between fact and theory. Here are his precise words with respect to the origins of planets: "The planets in the solar system formed out of a spinning dust cloud, a circumstellar disk it's called, right along with the Sun, and so they all have the same basic motion coming from their origin, and they formed together with the Sun."

You can see he is confident in a theory that has been around for years, though the theory did not predict any of the milestone discoveries of the space age. The nebular theory is, in fact, one of the primary reasons why every major planetary discovery has come as a surprise. We can now view the planets up close and personal. Their surfaces do not speak for isolated and incremental evolution, but for an unstable solar system in the past.

The appeal of the nebular theory early in the twentieth century was based on observations later revealed to be incorrect. At that time, astronomers believed that only one galaxy, the Milky Way, existed. When they observed what they called "spiral nebulas" and "planetary nebulas," they imagined these clouds to be the birthplaces of stars and planets, formed by the "gravitational collapse" of gas and dust.

But the early "observations" proved to be erroneous. With better telescopes, astronomers realized that "spiral nebulas" were actually galaxies beyond the Milky Way. They could tell us nothing about an imagined "gravitational collapse" of clouds into stars and planets. Then, with still better observational tools in the latter decades of the twentieth century, it became clear that "planetary nebula" were not gas clouds coalescing or accreting into planets, but the remains of EXPLODING STARS.

Thanks to our better telescopes now, we DO see evidence of planetary formation. For example, the discovery of gas-giant planets orbiting nearby stars should have forced a complete review of the assumptions behind the nebular theory. But it did not. Most such bodies are moving on exceedingly close orbits to their primary (star), the opposite of what was predicted by "planetary nebula" models. Faced with this contradiction, the theorists concluded that the gas-giant planets must have moved inward after they were formed. But if that were a normal occurrence, then Jupiter should be closer to the Sun than Mercury, and Earth and its neighbors should not exist. Either way, the picture certainly does not suggest planets coalescing from a cloud, and then remaining in place for billions of years!

Morrison is not the only astronomer desperately needing an education in plasma physics and electric discharge. Astronomers working with gravity-only models have failed again and again to anticipate the new view of space. This record of failure can now be compared to the striking success of "plasma cosmology," rooted in the work of Kristian Birkeland, Irving Langmuir, and Nobel Laureate Hannes Alfven, the father of modern plasma science. For a brief summary of the predictive success of plasma cosmology, see: Chapter One, Thunderbolts of the Gods.

ELECTRIC SUN

Morrison insisted that the Sun is known to be electrically neutral, but his only defense of this claim was a reference to the "neutrality" of the solar wind. He did not mention the fact that the charged particles of the solar wind are accelerated away from the Sun (something that was not known when Velikovsky wrote Worlds in Collision). In contrast to Morrison's bold assertions, the known FACT is that electric fields accelerate charged particles. This acceleration is the best measure of an electric field's strength. Unless someone can demonstrate (not merely hypothesize) something other than an electric field that can accelerate charged particles, there is simply no integrity to Morrison's sweeping assertions.

It appears that Morrison is simply unaware of the electric model, falling into the most common error of its critics, who try to apply high school electrostatics to the principles of a glow discharge. The Sun is a glow discharge according to the modern pioneer of the electric Sun, Ralph Juergens, whose work has been further developed by Wallace Thornhill and Donald Scott. See: Of Pith Balls and Plasma.

ELECTRIC COMETS

It was surprising to find that the debate included no meaningful discussion of comet theory. This was unfortunate, because ideas about comets could be the Achilles Heel of dogmatic science.

On July 4, 2005, the Deep Impact probe will reach comet Tempel 2 and fire an 800-pound projectile into the comet's nucleus. NASA's comet investigators do not doubt that hidden beneath the surface of comets is a great abundance of water ice. How else could comet tails be produced, except by ices sublimating in the heat of the Sun?

The revolutionary electric Sun model set forth by Juergens in the early 70's included a view of comets as electric discharge phenomena. If the Sun is a glow discharge at the center of a radial electric field, then comets moving on highly elliptical orbits through this electric field will experience increasing stresses that can only be relieved through electrical arcing, removing material and accelerating it away from the nucleus, along the path of solar magnetic field lines.

Though electrical experts cannot categorically say there are no volatiles beneath the surface of comets, they all consider it most likely that the projectile will strike a solid rock and not a pile of ice and rubble. According to Thornhill, some of the water we normally detect in comet tails appears to be a result of electrical exchange within the coma of the comet. Oxygen is removed from the negatively charged comet nucleus by electric arcs, before uniting energetically with the positively charged hydrogen ions of the solar wind. The surfaces of the comets, Borrelly and Wild 2, which gave us the best close-ups, were bone dry.

See articles Electric Comet Could Burn the House of Science.
And Comets Impact Cosmology

So the Deep Impact mission could prove to be an acid test. The electric theorists have made their position clear, and there won't be much wiggle room for the conventional "dirty snowball" hypothesis. If water is not observed to explode from the surface at the projectile's impact, a domino effect will be set loose. An absence of water would mean there is no mainstream model left, only the electric model would remain. A single event could thus alter the mindset of all who work in the theoretical sciences: it would mark the end of the imagined "electrically neutral" universe lurking behind every statement we heard from David Morrison.

WHEN DID PLANETARY UPHEAVAL OCCUR?

Morrison confidently dismissed the idea of recent catastrophe in the solar system, telling us that the real catastrophes occurred "4.5 billion years ago." How does he "know" this? The confidence begins with a rigid adherence to the nebular theory, and ends with a practice at which the electric theorists can only grimace: counting craters to determine the ages of a planet's or moon's surface. The fewer the craters, the "logic" goes, the more recent the events that re-surfaced an area.

Even orthodox planetary scientists are coming to realize that crater counting doesn't work. See article - "Crater Count Led Mars Historians Astray", March 2005 New Scientist.

For the cosmic electricians, the idea of counting craters is absurd. They see the defining surface features of planets and moons as the signature of brief catastrophic episodes of electric discharge, in a phase of solar system history that continued until surprisingly recent times. According to these investigators, every planet shows electrical re-sculpting from pole to pole, often with strange hemispheric differences as if scarring occurred briefly from a single direction. They propose a simple and direct way to resolve the question. Since plasma discharge events are scalable, they claim the dominant features on planets and moons can ONLY be produced by electric discharge, and they are eager to see rigorous testing of this extraordinary claim. Without any funding from NASA, they have already begun the process, and the results are simply staggering. (See: Martian Blueberries in the Lab.

DID OUR ANCESTORS WITNESS COSMIC CATASTROPHE?

Of course David Morrison was certain that no dramatic changes in the configuration of the solar system have occurred across billions of years. But in agreement with Immanuel Velikovsky, many proponents of the Electric Universe contend that our early ancestors witnessed Earth-changing catastrophes. So on this point, they do not just speak of scientific evidence, but of HUMAN TESTIMONY. They tell us that only a few thousand years ago the sky was ablaze with electrical fireworks and that humans witnessing these events recorded them through every means available--

They drew pictures of plasma formations in the heavens.
See: Plasma Formations in the Ancient Sky
Origins of Rock Art

From one land to another they recounted stories of cosmic thunderbolts that altered world history. (See: Chapter Two of Thunderbolts of the Gods.)

In ritual prayers and monument building, they constructed imitations of the plasma formations in the sky. (See Chapter 3 of Thunderbolts of the Gods)

And in their astronomical traditions they preserved a global memory of PLANETS as the towering gods of a former time. (Also Chapter 3).

In laying the groundwork for a new approach to solar system history, Talbott and Thornhill write--

"A costly misunderstanding of planetary history must now be corrected. The misunderstanding arose from fundamental errors within the field of cosmology, the 'queen' of the theoretical sciences. Mainstream cosmologists, whether trained as physicists, mathematicians, or astronomers, consider gravity to be the controlling force in the heavens. From this assumption arose the doctrine of eons-long solar system stability-the belief that under the rule of gravity the nine planets have moved on their present courses since the birth of the solar system. Seen from this vantage point, the ancient fear of the planets can only appear ludicrous.

"We challenge this modern belief. We contend that humans once saw planets suspended as huge spheres in the heavens. Immersed in the charged particles of a dense plasma, celestial bodies 'spoke' electrically and plasma discharge produced heaven-spanning formations above the terrestrial witnesses. In the imagination of the ancient myth-makers, the planets were alive: they were the gods, the ruling powers of the sky-awe inspiring, often capricious, and at times wildly destructive."

It has been said that no great advance has ever been made without controversy. More than 5 decades after the Velikovsky firestorm, questions first posed by Velikovsky can no longer be ignored. At stake here is not just the billions of dollars NASA has wasted chasing chimeras, but the very integrity of scientific exploration. Also at stake is the ability of the sciences to attract and inspire new generations. And nothing is more inspirational than a sense of being on the edge of discovery.

No matter the outcome of this long-standing battle, the time of reckoning is at hand. The voice of Velikovsky's ghost WILL be heard.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/velikovsky-ghost.htm

Bruno was burnt at the stake, Galileo was forced to recant, but Velikovsky is being vindicated, your opinion matters not.


55 posted on 01/12/2006 4:28:00 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Right Wing Professor; Fred Nerks

"Oh, so you're a Velikovskian; I suspected that."

Boy, did you ever hit that nail on the head.


56 posted on 01/12/2006 4:29:28 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Fred Nerks
You can stop posting now. My patience for pseuodoscientific hokum is not all that high. Was nice knowing you. :)
57 posted on 01/12/2006 4:31:02 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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Venusbat placemark


58 posted on 01/12/2006 4:34:31 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: dread78645

Most people would sooner die than think; and frequently, they do so."
-- Bertrand Russell


59 posted on 01/12/2006 4:52:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

Fred,

Here's a "Sagin story" for you. At a conference I was attending, a fire emergency was declared and the resort was being emptied. Ray Harbin suggested we walk into the emergency control room visible a few feet away.

We did, he then asked in a loud voice "Where's Carl Sagan?"

The "authorities were absolutely flabbergasted - "We didn't know he was here" was the usual reply.

Ray deadpanned "Where there is smoke, there's Sagan." We left, and I doubt any of them caught on for a minute or even two.


60 posted on 01/12/2006 6:59:22 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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