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(VANITY) Question for Police Officers

Posted on 01/09/2006 8:57:21 PM PST by Philistone

The large majority of my experiences with law enforcement have been positive (including the one time I was a perp [25 odd years ago for a DUI]).

The majority of officers I have met personally have been courteous, friendly, great fun to party with, and generally "good people".

I'm curious, though, what YOU think of your job, your responsibilities and the power that you wield.

Questions for law officers:

Is there a point at which you lose track (or interest) in the idea that "all people are innocent until proven guilty"? [ It must be tough seeing obviously guilty people get off because of "technicalities"]

Do you think (or care) about the consequences of your actions in marginal cases? [Are there times when you just have to do your job even though it seems obvious that nothing you do will help or change the situation?]

What made you go into law enforcement?

"Protect and Serve" is a noble ideal. (Be honest) How much of what you do and why you became an officer involve "protecting and serving" and how much involves "putting bad guys in jail and preferably shooting them first"? Is there a difference?

And before I get ZOTTED, no, I'm not a troll or a DUmmie. I'm just curious about the general sentiments of those who are involved in law enforcment and the reasons that they do a very difficult job for relatively low pay.


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To: wizardoz

When you write your book, remember that every police investigation involves at least one visit to a strip joint. Especially if you want it on the big screen. :-)


81 posted on 01/09/2006 10:12:37 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: hole_n_one

Were there any dirty HMs? Did you ever have to help IA bust any of your fellow HMs?


82 posted on 01/09/2006 10:13:21 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Philistone

When in doubt, never talk to a cop. You have no legal obligation to answer any question unless someone is in immediate danger. If in a vehicle, you must provide you driver's license and the vehicle registration. Other than that, it is best to simply tell them you want to talk to your attorney.

If questioned about a crime that has been committed, NEVER, EVER talk to an attorney, even if you are innocent. They will twist anything you might say or imply in such a way as to implicate you. Simply tell them you don't know anything and want a lawyer before discussing anything.


83 posted on 01/09/2006 10:14:35 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
If questioned about a crime that has been committed, NEVER, EVER talk to an attorney.

Attorney should be cop.

84 posted on 01/09/2006 10:15:22 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: hole_n_one

This thread's gone to hell in a handbasket!


85 posted on 01/09/2006 10:15:30 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: JimBianchi11
Fellow officers say I had the gift of gab

I'm sometimes called upon to explain to elected officials the cultural differences between firefighters and police officers. I always say, "firefighters are like construction workers, cops are like used car salesmen." The gift of gab (and persuasion) is a valuable tool to most.

86 posted on 01/09/2006 10:19:34 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: Army Air Corps
Were there any dirty HMs? Did you ever have to help IA bust any of your fellow HMs?

There was this one HM who was taking bribes.

If you had a twinkie, ding dong or the answer's to Miss McNulty's 3rd period math class, you could pretty much run amok up and down his hall.

A sting operation involving the cutest girl in school (and my future ex-wife) and a box of Ho Ho's finally did him in.

87 posted on 01/09/2006 10:20:23 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Philistone; Larry Lucido
O.K, I'll bite:
If the officer thought something was "hinky' about the child's injury, he'd call for a supervisor to watch his patrol car and ride in the ambulance. More than likely he'd just listen ... looking for clues that it wasn't an accident.
The unmirandized statements of the father ... well, I'll leave that to Larry Lucido, ESQ for the fancy terms.
(Did 20 years, 14 as a detective)
88 posted on 01/09/2006 10:23:08 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Philistone
I am not a Cop but would like to throw in my 2 cents.

The only Police Officers I cant understand are revenue collectors that park on the middle of a hill and ticket people for speeding on the way down.

I could never imagine a real Police Officer doing this and still calling themselves a Republican when they take off the uniform.
89 posted on 01/09/2006 10:23:53 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: hole_n_one

Did you have any psychological trauma from those days? Is that what ultimately led to divorce?

When i was in elementary school, we had conscripted hall monitors. They were called into service from the ranks of the students with good citizenship marks. I still recall my stint as an HM conscript.


90 posted on 01/09/2006 10:24:34 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps
Did you have any psychological trauma from those days?

A quick glance at the 7 years (or simply this thread) of posts/replies I've made to FR should easily answer that question.

91 posted on 01/09/2006 10:28:53 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: investigateworld
The unmirandized statements of the father

Good point. Long as he's not in custody, anything incriminating is fair game, Miranda or not, IIRC (I do real estate now, not criminal defense).

Interesting tidbit about Ernesto Miranda, btw:

"On January 31, 1976, Miranda, then working as a delivery driver, participated in a card game at the La Amapola Bar. A violent fight broke out, and Miranda was mortally wounded with a knife and was dead on arrival at Good Samaritan Hospital. He was thirty four years old. A suspect was arrested and read the Miranda warning. He then declined to give a statement. The suspect was released and supposedly fled to Mexico. The Miranda murder case was closed without apprehending the murderer." (From Wikipedia)

92 posted on 01/09/2006 10:30:18 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: hole_n_one

So, what did you have for a uniform?

We had to wear a bright orange sash with "Hall Monitor" emblazoned thereon.


93 posted on 01/09/2006 10:30:34 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: andie74; wizardoz
Deposition at the hospital, I am sure.

Definitely interview at the hospital. Gotta follow up on leads while they are warm. The witnesses can't really do anything in the waiting room besides wait, anyway. I've even talked to victims while they were being stitched up, if they are the only witness, so I could, you know, do that "calling all cars" thing afterward.

94 posted on 01/09/2006 10:34:14 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: april15Bendovr
revenue collectors that park on the middle of a hill

In forty plus years of driving, my only citation came in exactly that situation. The guy was hiding behind a bush on a driveway halfway down a Los Angeles hill noted for being a speed trap. Two weeks before I was cited, there'd been a fatal accident there when someone pulling out of the driveway had misjudged the speed of cross traffic that was going 55 instead of the posted 35.... the exact same thing I was doing.

95 posted on 01/09/2006 10:35:26 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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A sting operation involving the cutest girl in school (and my future ex-wife) and a box of Ho Ho's finally did him in.

For the record.........

This is not the first time that I've used the term Ho and my ex-wife in the same sentence.

96 posted on 01/09/2006 10:36:40 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Army Air Corps

I had a Safety Patrol Badge once.

Does that count?


97 posted on 01/09/2006 10:37:04 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (A friend is able to see you as the wonderful person God created you to be.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Did you tell folks when to cross the street?


98 posted on 01/09/2006 10:37:53 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

No... I found the badge.


99 posted on 01/09/2006 10:46:29 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (A friend is able to see you as the wonderful person God created you to be.)
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To: Larry Lucido; hole_n_one
I think the word I was looking for is "contemp... spell check is no help.
Hole in one and AAC are cracking me up.
Only in the FReepdom ;^)
100 posted on 01/09/2006 10:48:34 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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