Posted on 01/09/2006 3:06:22 PM PST by wagglebee
(AgapePress) - It may only be in its beginning stages, but the "polyamorist movement" may be grabbing onto the coat tails of the increasingly effective homosexual movement.
"Polyamorists" are individuals who maintain more than one emotional-sexual relationship simultaneously, believing that monogamy is unnatural. Relationships can be heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual.
Paul Harris, a New York reporter for The Observer, a London, England, newspaper, writes in words that sound strangely similar to those used to describe the homosexual movement.
He said "polyamorists are coming out of the closets across America. Several groups have sprung up. In New York, Polyamorous NYC holds monthly meetings, has an e-mail list of about 800 and holds a Poly Pride Day each year in Central Park.
"A documentary, Three of Hearts: A Postmodern Family, has opened at cinemas in the city, chronicling a 13-year relationship between three people living together in a relationship that produced two children."
"Most people in the poly community are very closeted," Justen Bennett-MacCubbin, founder of Polyamorous NYC, told The Observer. "The community is where gays and lesbians were in the '60s."
"We want a change in perception of what's possible. By and large, people are not naturally monogamous, and we should be able to talk about it without prejudice," Bennett-MacCubbin said.
Perceptions seem to have definitely changed in The Netherlands. In a nation that is arguably the most accepting of homosexuality in the world, the first polygamous civil union was recorded this fall, when a man and two women had their relationship legally recognized.
"I love both Bianca and Mirjam, so I am marrying them both," Victor de Bruijn proudly declared in September.
Polyamory is more comparable to an orgy where all the participants are married to everyone.
A guy might have two wives, but those wives might be doing each other as well. Or it could be a woman with multiple partners. There really is no limit or boundaries on this.
"I love my wife dearly, but why in the world would anyone want two?"
ROFL
"No man can serve two masters"...
[As I consider the Old Testament every bit the revelation of the New Testament, I looked up the reference to Rachel and Leah. Nowhere does God order polygamy, in fact Jacob's marriage to two women came about through the deception of Rachel and Leah's father. So I think that the fellow's point is just off.]
I don't think too far off. Jesus seems to have clearly said that a man must marry only ONE woman (someone please name the passage).
But the Old Testament, while not saying that Jacob was ordered to marry two women, did show that many high status males were blessed by God and also allowed to have, in some cases, hundreds of wives and even concubines.
David was criticized for taking the extra step and having a good man killed so he could take the man's wife although he already had 300+. And then David was *still* blessed.
The Old Testament was wild. You'd think there would be even more Hollywood movies about it.
I have no problem with Paulists and New Testamenters who say that Jesus and Paul overwrote the Old Testament social mores. It sounded like they needed to be changed. In the evangelical movement today in America, Paul seems to be the most important influence. Many on FR feel that Paul's writings should have been put only in the Apochrypha.
This is not about giving these people 'rights'-----it's about undermining and destroying our Western Christian-Judeo based civilization. Destroying the traditional family is of paramount importance to the evolutionary humanists scheme for taking control. They did these very things in the former Soviet Union and very nearly destroyed the culture---and Russia is, to this day, a dying civilization.
Tied directly to safe child bearing years. The primary purpose for marriage is to provide a safe place to raise kids. Without kids, especially in today's environment, it doesn't make sense for most men to marry at all.
Me: I've never really understood the argument against allowing a man to have more than one wife.
Blazing: "No man can serve two masters"...
Ok, that was funny. :)
You don't see anything wrong with a society in which high-status men accumulate wives and sire children who barely know their fathers, while lower-status men are good only for cannon fodder?
God allows all sorts of things of which he doesn't necessarily approve. Christians can be adulterers, fornicators, angry people, liars, etc. The forgiveness of Christ covers them all, but God is not pleased with that sort of behavior. Recall that Solomon was led astray from God by his many foreign wives, and debauched himself and embraced foreign gods. (1 Kings 11, Book of Ecclesiastes.)
The New Testament didn't erase the old order in the sense that the OT was somehow wrong or evil and God decided to give something else a try. That is not the case at all. Christ fulfilled the laws of the OT, and changed the covenant. From now on faith in Christ, and not adherence to the law, determines salvation.
Don't foget these folks http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1552400/posts
This isn't economics, and there's already competition without revoking the "one wife to a customer" rule.
Large numbers of unattached young men with no hope of finding a wife are very dangerous to society. You ought to be able to see that without it being explained to you. Not to mention your "competition" results in lives being ruined -- not only the men who can't find wives, but the wives who have to share husbands, and the children who don't know their dads.
Investigate Mormon fundamentalist communities if you don't see what I'm talking about, where teenage boys are bodily thrown out of town to fend for themselves so the older, powerful men won't face competition for the young girls. That's your "competition" in action.
Finding more ways and excuses for people to act like animals isn't where we need to be going as a culture, unless you want to end up living like an animal.
The worst form of polygamy is already practiced by most men in the US.
They marry one wife, have kids, and then destroy that relationship and traumatize the kids in order to have a second, or third, or fourth wife.
The only thing worse than ployamory, or polygamy, is the serial monogamy we have today.
There is no doubt "polygamy" is already preferred and practiced by most men in America today. Only now the laws require we destroy our families one at a time, instead of maintaining loving and supportive relationships.
The number of wives a man has should be determined by his religion, not by a government official.
Weekly Standard had an article about this.
Thank the Unitarian Universalists.
ooooer... imagine the economics of it. 2 people could work full time and one could stay home with the kids.
Many important characters in the Bible had multiple wives and were not considered sinful in the eyes of God, in fact, they were heroic figures like Abraham.
Jesus' only referral to this issue is when he states "a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh" -- Matthew 19:5
What Jesus said was an almost verbatim repetition of Genesis 2:24 "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
Yet, even though this was stated early in Genesis, polygamy was clearly accepted throughout the later years in the rest of the Old Testament. Jesus never spoke against polygamy. The phrase "shall be one flesh" has been considered a euphemism for physical unification, intercourse.
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