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1 posted on 01/07/2006 11:24:27 AM PST by ncountylee
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Although Ted was very young when Rosemary had her lobotomy, these family values are part of his heritage.

RIP Rosemary.


2 posted on 01/07/2006 11:25:06 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Well, at least they didn't send her down to the riverside with her brother Teddy...


3 posted on 01/07/2006 11:26:58 AM PST by infidel dog (nearer my God to thee....)
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IT is a old liberal tradition, (commie style) if someone inconveniences, kill'em or get'em shut up and outta sight.
4 posted on 01/07/2006 11:28:57 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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Born slightly retarded, Rosemary Kennedy learned to read and write, and through her early 20s friends described her as bubbly and personable.

Her famous family, however, feared that Rosemary might get pregnant, catch a venereal disease, or otherwise embarrass the Kennedys. To prevent this, she became one of the first Americans to undergo a prefrontal lobotomy, having the frontal lobes of her brain surgically scraped off in 1942.

This resulted in Ms. Kennedy's paralysis, incoherence, and incontinence...

...and she was still one of the least embarrassing members of the family. How is it that Rosemary got lobotomized and Ted didn't?

5 posted on 01/07/2006 11:32:01 AM PST by RichInOC ("...ahsk not what Ted can do for you...ahsk what you can do for Ted.")
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Born slightly retarded,...

Weren't the rest of the Kennedys as well? Or was it the drinking and other drugs?

6 posted on 01/07/2006 11:32:06 AM PST by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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"Her famous family, however, feared that Rosemary might get pregnant, catch a venereal disease...."

Their fears were probably well grounded while her brothers were around....

7 posted on 01/07/2006 11:33:11 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To prevent this, she became one of the first Americans to undergo a prefrontal lobotomy, having the frontal lobes of her brain surgically scraped off in 1942.

I still can't believe Joe Kennedy did this

And the Kennedy's nag us about human rights

Bleeping hypocrites!

8 posted on 01/07/2006 11:33:43 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To be perfectly fair, lobotomy was quite popular in the US from the 30s through the 50s, to treat a wide variety of mental health problems. There is considerable evidence that it may actually have been quite effective in many cases. Its decline in popularity is due at least as much to the development of alternatives such as medication as it is to discovery of bad effects.

Most people's opinion of it is based on One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest and other highly unscientific depictions in the media. There are believed to be somewhere around 50,000 Americans still around who were lobotomized. Many of them have lived quite normal and successful lives, although we will of course never know exactly what their lives would have been like without the surgery.


11 posted on 01/07/2006 11:35:46 AM PST by Restorer
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To give some credit, Eunice Shriver has sponsored the special olympics and contributed a lot to the handi-capped. Her pence for the work of her vicious father and her weak, if pious mother.


12 posted on 01/07/2006 11:37:35 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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What a sad, sad story. Those who made such a decision for Rosemary lived in far greater darkness than she ever did.


16 posted on 01/07/2006 11:47:19 AM PST by Faith
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Actually, they did discuss this. Trouble is for years they never mentioned this was never the procedure in use for mental retardation and that that was here problem, not a psychiatric one for which the procedure was employed.


17 posted on 01/07/2006 11:47:46 AM PST by the Real fifi
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Wikipedia's take (its neutrality is disputed -- imagine that)
19 posted on 01/07/2006 11:49:34 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.


20 posted on 01/07/2006 11:53:28 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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They didn't want her to get married and split up the family wealth. The old man was a barbarian and so is his son.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


21 posted on 01/07/2006 11:54:58 AM PST by bray (President Bush Protects America. The Rats Protect Terrorists.)
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Are you sure they didn't get a twofer on the operation and do little teddie as well? If only some of those phonies up in Boston would react to this!
24 posted on 01/07/2006 12:00:27 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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It would be interesting to see if Rose (mom) had any decision in this... aside from their politcs I have always liked the Kennedy women...the men were a bunch of drunk thugs
34 posted on 01/07/2006 12:34:55 PM PST by Kimmers
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From the Wikipedia article: "Hers was and, currently, is, the only natural death among the deceased children of Joseph and Rose Kennedy."

Now there's an interesting bit of information.

I think Joseph Kennedy was accursed. He made his fortunes in illegal alcohol activities and money-under-the-table politics. And he was one of the very few fathers I've known who actually encouraged his sons to go into politics.

39 posted on 01/07/2006 12:44:33 PM PST by manwiththehands
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It is a crime what they did to her. And then they spend their lives promoting Speical Olympics events?? Total heartless hypocrites, the entire family. They still call them "American royalty"!? Considering how most royal families have acted over the centuries, it probably applies to them but in negative ways, not the glamorous ones. They are our own "Camelot" of course...and the media LOVES them forever.


41 posted on 01/07/2006 12:49:26 PM PST by BonnieJ
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Be interesting to know how old Teddy was fore he could tie is own shoes. Now, he can't reach the laces I guess.


45 posted on 01/07/2006 1:01:01 PM PST by Waco
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I had heard this many years ago. The Kennedy's had a way of keeping it from the public, just as all dems have with anything in their closet.


56 posted on 01/07/2006 1:43:11 PM PST by Dustbunny (This is the day the LORD has made, let us be rejoice and be glad in it.)
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