Posted on 01/05/2006 2:36:24 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
VANCOUVER, January 5, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The BC Human Rights Tribunal is being asked to discover a new “sexual orientation.” The Vancouver Sun reported December 30, that a self-described “pagan” is accusing the Vancouver police of discrimination for refusing him a license to drive a limousine because of his involvement in the “bondage and discipline, domination and submission, sadism and masochism” (BDSM) underworld.
A Vancouver man, Peter Hayes, has accused the Vancouver police of illegal discrimination because of his involvement in BDSM. Hayes says that he lost a potential job as a limousine driver when police refused him a chauffeur's permit and has taken his case to the Human Rights Tribunal.
The Tribunal’s Lindsay M. Lyster wrote an 18 page preliminary decision saying that the complaint can go forward. She said that while she did not completely understand the “precise nature of Mr. Hayes' lifestyle, practices and preferences,” they ought to be investigated as to whether they fall under the definition of sexual orientation, and therefore of the protection of human rights legislation.
Lyster wrote that she did not understand the meaning “of the parties' use of the term BDSM or other related terms.” Despite this, she believed “that Mr. Hayes suffered an adverse impact as a result of the respondents' actions is, on the facts alleged, clear, as he was denied a chauffeur's permit and lost the opportunity to work.”
The police department said, “In our submission, sexual orientation is separate and distinct from preferences or behaviours while engaging in sex. The legislature has not gone so far as to prohibit discrimination on the basis of preferences or behaviour.”
The issue of legal protection for “sexual orientation,” however, is a vexed one since when such legislation was introduced, a clear definition was deliberately withheld.
Gwen Landolt, a family advocate and head of Real Women of Canada, told LifeSiteNews.com that no definition of the term can be found in Canadian law so it can and is used to provide legal protection to any sexual proclivity.
Landolt said, “That was the whole point when the legislation began to appear. ‘Orientation’ was left open so as to include pedophilia, bestiality or anything anyone wants.”
“This has been the goal of the homosexual movement from the start: to remove from the Canadian criminal code everything pertaining to sexual morality, and their favorite method is to use the Human Rights Tribunals. These tribunals are not run according to the standards of evidence and due process as the normal courts,” Landolt said.
Lyster wrote that the Tribunal should employ the opinion of “experts” to decide if Mr. Hayes’ sexual interests could be considered an “orientation.” Given the willingness of experts to approve of most sexual activities that had heretofore been considered sick or dangerous to past generations, it seems to Landolt that one more sexual deviation is about to be given legal protection in Canada.
Landolt said, “The same thing happened in Ontario with the so-called ‘transgendered.’ They were refused OHIP coverage for their surgeries and they went to the Human Rights Tribunals. Now we have seen it with the swinger’s clubs in Montreal, and previously with child pornography. You name it.”
There ya go throwing rational thought into it!!! LMAO!! How dareyou interject common sense!
Canada now, US to come in the not so distant future! Unless we somehow can get things back in line real quick!
"The world is going mad. Any bets on how long what's called "civilization" will be able to continue before descending into a "Lord of the Flies" scenario?"
Lord of the Flies:
Kill, kill, kill the pig!
Kill, Kill, KILL THE PIG!!!
Lord of the Flies, 2006 revised edition:
Kill, kill, kill the pig!
Kill, Kill, KILL THE PIG!!!
(Uh, guys, can I do the pig first?)
I put it out of my mind too. It must have been a slow day at LifeSiteNews. : )
Do ya think rape and child molestation will soon be a sexual orientation as well in BC? Man, these folks are hurtin'.
I read the book and then saw the movie when I was a young kid. It really freaked the heck out of me. To use vernacular.
Feral humans. There are too many of them, and more coming up.
I hope you and your family have a happy new year!
Perhaps Canada needs a taste of sharia law!!!!!!
"Do ya think rape and child molestation will soon be a sexual orientation as well in BC? Man, these folks are hurtin'."
I'm just saying that it follows the same logic. S&M is how some people get their sexual jollies. So are the things I listed. If S&M is an "orientation", why would the other things not be?
"I hope you and your family have a happy new year!"
Yours too.
Coming soon: The Canadian Inquisition!
Nothing like having your entire life examined under a microscope before getting a driver's license!
What is next?
Water-boarding before getting a credit card?
First-born child before approval for a mortgage?
Wait... perhaps I should stop, before some government officials steal my ideas.
As for this case, perhaps the police were involved because he wanted to drive a paddy-wagon, and miss-spelled it as Paddle-Wagon!
Hey, it is an innocent slip....
Drainpipe fetishes will be next!!
Canada seems to be in free-fall.
And good philosophy. And common sense.
I think you are right - I believe homosexuality is a fetish rather than an orientation, consenting adults can do as they please, but the way the law is defining different kinds of sexual acts as 'orientations', it's undermining the act of normal sex, particulary between a loving couple.
However, I do have a problem with suggesting that ‘homosexuality is a fetish’. My understanding of a ‘fetish’ is that it is an object or a nonsexual part of the body that creates sexual arousal’. That may have an element of weirdness about it – but is it necessarily a sin? If a man gets sexually turned on by looking at his wife’s toes, is that sinful? Probably not – but perhaps other types of fetish are a sin as it depends on some aspect of the application. Homosexuality is a sin through and through – without question and completely. Scripture couldn't’t be clearer on the subject and I challenge anyone to find a scripture that even hints of homosexuality NOT being a sin. As for your comment about the law ‘defining different kinds of sexual acts as 'orientations'’, I don’t think that is the case at all. In fact, it’s the very fact that this ISN”T done that’s the problem. With all the noise ringing across the continent over the past zillion years about homo rights and same-sex marriage, have you ever heard ‘homosexuality’ actually defined? What exactly is it? When you hear someone say they are a homosexual, ask them how they can prove it. Is it because they had a same-sex encounter once in their life? Because they thought about it once? What about someone who was once conducting sexual acts with a member of the same same sex but no longer does that or feels any desire to do so? I know what it’s NOT as I suggested in post 22 – and if someone wants to argue with me, let them answer the questions posed there for a start. I’ve got lots more.
" Actually I'd put money on it that there is a market for just such a limousine service."
You should have placed your bet because you won.
http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/uk/club_events/3
"So how exactly did the police become aware of this individuals involvement in the S&M scene ? "
Limo drivers have to be bondable in Canada so they have to submit to a background check.
Probably traced him through a chat site or BDSM club. The leather crowd aren't exactly secretive.
"Now I understand in Los Angeles there is currently a guy in critical condition following a horse taking him in the a$$!"
No that guy be dead from a perforated colon. WhinEEEeehee!
My thoughts exactly, Gay 'Rights' opened Pandora's Box.. in this world wrong is right and bad is good and both vice versa.
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