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It's the demography, stupid ..... Mark Steyn
The New Criterion ^ | 2 Jan 2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/02/2006 12:04:17 PM PST by Rummyfan

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To: expatpat
No, the civil war will start with local skirmishes between these guys and Pakistani gangs, a la the recent troubles in the Sydney area.

But how will that affect the national culture? Liberal leaders will decry the whites and side with the Pakis. It would take a LOT before the liberal British national culture changes. What they really need is a religious revival, but at the rate Churches are turned into bars, I doubt that's going to happen any time soon.

81 posted on 01/05/2006 5:50:43 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Rummyfan; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; King Prout; SJackson; dennisw; ...
A fundamental article by unsurpassable Mark Steyn. He covers so much material here that this very long article even feels short and somewhat jumpy.

For the easier to read format see Opinion Journal


Nailed It!

This ping list is not author-specific for articles I'd like to share. Some for the perfect moral clarity, some for provocative thoughts; or simply interesting articles I'd hate to miss myself. (I don't have to agree with the author all 100% to feel the need to share an article.) I will try not to abuse the ping list and not to annoy you too much, but on some days there is more of the good stuff that is worthy of attention. You can see the list of articles I pinged to lately  on  my page.
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82 posted on 01/05/2006 10:28:58 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Well said.

Re. declining birth rates. There is surely reasons for that. Once identified, the declining birth rates can be turned around.

However, as a major cause of low birth rates is govt policies and Liberal Thought, the chances of reform are lower.


83 posted on 01/05/2006 10:38:04 AM PST by OldArmy52
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To: Rummyfan

later read...rto


84 posted on 01/05/2006 11:16:45 AM PST by visitor (...and the dems wonder why they lost and will continue to lose, good riddance)
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To: NattieShea; PowerBaby
Daddy sez, "Please read it all."
85 posted on 01/05/2006 11:30:06 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


86 posted on 01/05/2006 11:35:25 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: MrNatural
In short, what we have in Europe is a growing power and religious vacuum. What remains in question is who will move in to fill it.
87 posted on 01/05/2006 11:59:29 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

You need to read this Steyn article about Europe and population issues.


88 posted on 01/05/2006 12:01:14 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Rummyfan

Tagging the thread.


89 posted on 01/05/2006 12:43:59 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: Carry_Okie

It's good to have friends in many places: more lookouts. :)


90 posted on 01/05/2006 1:08:09 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Tolik; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; Conspiracy Guy; NYC GOP Chick; MeekOneGOP; Fedora; ...

damn, this is good. thanks for the ping, Tolik!


91 posted on 01/05/2006 3:08:46 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Rummyfan; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Southack; Miss Marple; Howlin; BOBTHENAILER; devolve; abb; ...

Scary oped by Mark.

The only good news appeared to be this comment/summation: "In America, demographic trends suggest that the blue states ought to apply for honorary membership of the EU: in the 2004 election, John Kerry won the sixteen with the lowest birth rates; George W. Bush took twenty-five of the twenty-six states with the highest. By 2050, there will be 100 million fewer Europeans, 100 million more Americans—and mostly red-state Americans."

I have posting replies and comments for close to two years about how the liberals have been killing their babies in their mothers's wombs and pushing the gay life style as the greatest thing since sliced bread. While decreasing their population base with this dual message from hell, they have been dumbing down those who weren't aborted with their liberal agendas in public schools.

In the US there are about 100 fast growing metro areas outside of the dying blue cities, and I believe that GW carried all but one of these fast growing metro areas. They are populated with well educated and motivate people versus the under educated and not motivated blue city liberals. These trends are having a devastating impact on the left wing MSM outlets in the big Blue cities. We are not buying their newspapers and turning of their pseudo news programs. That leaves them with the dumbed down and often illiterate zombies of the inner city, and they can't carry the subscriber/viewer loads required by big newspapers and local tv stations to maintain profits.

As their voter bases decrease by their own hands, their MSM bases are decreasing. This is having a devastating impact on the DemocRats. If they didn't have George $oreA$$ funding their party, they would disappear even faster.


92 posted on 01/05/2006 4:59:20 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The NY Slimes has been committing treason and sedition for decades.)
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To: Aetius; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Czar; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; Chieftain; ...


I agree

When I was only 13 years old and out at the farm after school feeding our horses and cattle with my older brother I sometimes ran into Rattlesnakes and Coral Snakes (Coral Snakes 20-minute killers!)

I did not wait for them to get bigger or for me to get "more concerned"

I unsheathed my Kabar hunting knife

I soon had a Coral Snake hatband and a Rattlesnake belt for my Levis

WWI & WWII proved that "Old Europe" cannot get their own butts untill they are dying by the millions and begging the USA for our spare "hunting rifles" (they banned theirs!) and food and ships - and American troops!

I learned firearms safety and proper care and cleaning of a (very heavy!) Remington 22lr bolt-action target rifle when I was only 7 years old.

By age 8 I was hunting rabbits in tall pasture grass (horses and cattle in the pastures) by starlight with my 10 year old brother and about 8 others of the "Wild Bunch"

A good quarter horse can instantly break a leg from a rabbit hole in a pasture - we simply convinced the rabbits to move into out heavily grown woods

I carried my (very lightweight!) semi-auto carbine in the trunk of my car every day to HS and to work and out to our farm

When I went thru FA training in the service I swapped my Mossberg semi-auto carbine for a Garand .30-06

I did learn a bit about long-range sniper shooting from our FA instructors

They learned how to see and hit small running animals in tall grass at night from me


But the army never let me wear my Rattlesnake belt with my Class A's.....

--

The only mistake my father made was that he should have taught my (now NYC liberal) younger sister how to properly use firearms

The day is coming when women and children will need to know how to expertly use firearms to defend themselves and kill snakes instinctively and instantly

John Kerry, Slick Willie, Jack Murtha, Hillary Clinton, algore, Diane Feinstein, Chuckie Schumer all have firearms

- I'm sure they will be there to defend you.....




Don't call me - I'll be out killing snakes
















93 posted on 01/05/2006 5:35:21 PM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: IslandJeff
Bump to bookmark. Shot heard 'round the (Western) world.
94 posted on 01/05/2006 6:59:58 PM PST by IslandJeff
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To: Rummyfan
None of these things happened. In fact, quite the opposite is happening. We’re pretty much awash in resources, but we’re running out of people—the one truly indispensable resource, without which none of the others matter. Russia’s the most obvious example: it’s the largest country on earth, it’s full of natural resources, and yet it’s dying—its population is falling calamitously.

As I recall when Pat Buchanan wrote something similar he was called a racist. The fact is both he and Steyn are correct, many countries in the West are not making enough babies to sustain their populations, which could ultimately doom their civilizations.

95 posted on 01/05/2006 7:08:29 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: devolve
Good story!


96 posted on 01/05/2006 7:46:00 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Rummyfan
I seem to agree with Steyn's main idea on this subject, but he does not come to z correct idea on how it will be dealt with

As is human nature, "we" will allow this shift in population to happen, until it actually starts to affect us personally. Personally meaning that beheading and the stoning of women is a real threat on the streets of Main Street USA, not Nigeria or the Sudan. Only when that is an option that is becoming a real threat will we as Americans, act.

I do agree with his observation that we better be ready to admit that the problem exists when it is at the point of becoming something that we can no longer look away from.

When (not if) that time comes, civilization will be looking at a basic worldwide bloodbath for who will be the last "moral" group standing.

97 posted on 01/05/2006 7:56:36 PM PST by Fedupwithit (Forget the clever slogans.....Democrats are just idiots, plain and simple)
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To: potlatch


Easy if it's true

I have my "Gator Attack" (my Tarzan adventure), "Shark Story I" (fishing with a truck inner tube), "Shark Story II" (my lib NYC sister's huge Hammerhead), my "Cuda Facedown", "Brahma Bull Charge" (I won the race running backwards), and many more -

City dudes are so pampered and helpless


98 posted on 01/05/2006 8:03:13 PM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: Jackknife

PING. We're DOOOOOOMED, Monkey-Boy!!!! Spet Spasers to SPUN!!!!!


99 posted on 01/05/2006 8:10:46 PM PST by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: Marie Antoinette

Steyn ping!


100 posted on 01/05/2006 8:19:16 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant Pancake on my Head")
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