That cowboy image worked just fine in '04.
Posted on 01/02/2006 8:17:53 AM PST by areafiftyone
Recent developments Favor Rudolph Giuliani for President
Analysts and oddsmakers at BetUS.com say Republicans are favored with 3-4 odds to win the White House again in 2008. The leading Republican is Rudolph Giuliani with 1-2 odds, and John McCain in a close second at 2-1.
Giuliani gained his national notoriety on Sept. 11th and has been touring the country raising funds for his campaign, winning friends and trying to overcome the fact that he lacks foreign policy experience. Giuliani is known to be blunt and not always diplomatic, but that persona seems favored over the cowboy image of George Bush.
"Regardless of the Republican Party's rightward shift and the Bernard Kerik fiasco, we feel that Americans still identify with Giuliani," said BetUS spokesperson Matt Ross. "Rudy is a clear favorite for the Republican nomination in 2008"
John McCain has plenty of foreign policy experience and is well respected in the Senate by his fellow Republicans as well as Democrats, some of whom tried to recruit him to their party. McCain has a softer edge than Bush and has gained an "honest" image with his campaign against "soft money." His being an ex-prisoner of war also helps him compete with Giuliani in a conflict-ridden world.
"McCain should not be counted out," added Ross. "He took a bruising in 2000 against Bush and he may apply those hard lessons learned in 2008."
Hillary Clinton is the 1-2 odds front runner to be the Democratic nominee in 2008. John Edwards comes in second, ahead of Evan Bayh and a host of others, including Barak Obama and Jessie Jackson Jr. who are both posted at 8-1 odds. Although Barak Obama is relatively new to the political scene, he is intelligent, articulate, and a great speaker, having received accolades for his moving speech at the Democratic Convention. Jesse Jackson Jr. has a much lower profile. He has the name recognition advantage, given his father's notoriety, although not all of that is positive.
"Hillary is the Democratic power house," added Ross. "Republicans and Democrats ignore her at their peril."
BetUS.com posted the following odds:
Political Party to have the next US President:
Democrat: 2-1
Republican: 3-4
Field: 50-1
Democrat Nominee for 2008 US Election:
Hilary Clinton: 3-5
John Edwards: 4-1
Bill Richardson: 4-1
Jessie Jackson Jr.: 8-1
Barack Obama: 8-1
John Kerry: 9-1
Al Gore: 10-1
Evan Bayh: 14-1
Republican Nominee for 2008 US Election:
Rudolph Giuliani: 1-2
John McCain: 2-1
Jeb Bush: 4-1
Condoleeza Rice: 4-1
Colin Powell: 4-1
Bill Frist: 6-1
George Pataki: 8-1
Dick Cheney: 40-1
More odds on Presidential nominees and politics can be found at: www.BetUS.com
Rudy is pro choice, and hence could never get through the primary cycle. I tend to discount any analysis that has Giuliani playing any significant role in Republican presidential politics for this reason. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I dont think so.
Its not a matter of pro-choice or not pro-choice right now, its a matter of name recognition. People who are polled will recognize Rudy's name alot quicker and say yes rather than some unknown conservative who is only well known in his/her state. It has nothing to do with the way Freepers feel about certain issues - its the general population who does not follow politics like we do.
Rudy is pro choice, and hence could never get through the primary cycle.
Views change or are manipulated. Bush 41 was pro choice in 1980 running against Reagan in the primary. By 1988 he was weakly pro-life.
Question, if there is clearly a pro-life Supreme Court by this time next year, then does this issue diminish in Presidential politics 2008?
Stick a fork in that a-shole. He's done.
Way too early for this nonsense.
Stick a fork in that a-shole. He's done.
Calm down, he's not a candidate.
You might also add to his resume; fought the Mafia, tough on crime, cleaned up the streets, and told OBL's crowd and the Saudis to go to Hell; twice elected Republican Mayor in a very leftie City.
Agreed! A LOT can change over the next couple of years.
If the GOp can keep the focus on national security by behaving responsibly on the budget and immigration, then there is virtually no way 'Rat can win.
My guess: Yes. While I don't think they will overturn Roe v. Wade, they will probably hold as constitutional those laws which severely limit Roe (late term and partial-birth abortion, etc.). This should put the issue to rest, at least during the election cycle, in which case, the main issue will again likely be national security. And this will clearly favor the Republican candidate (Rudy?).
Let him stay in New York. Maybe he can run again once Bloomingidiot's term is over. I bet, however, that the NYGOP will run a no-name that will get stomped by Weiner.
Rudy's stand on choice may not matter in the least by 2008. I happen to believe that there will be one more spot on the USSC before then and, if filled properly, choice will no longer be a political issue. I know people are going to be reluctant to give the issue up, but with a solidly pro-life court, it's not going to be an issue.
It's also going to depend on the WOT and where we stand in 2008.
Let him stay in New York.
Think he is acutally now a partner in a big Dallas law firm, not NYC.
Right on, Greek. I'll take Rudy over hillary any day.
Me too, but don't tell anyone on this site. They get very upset with me.
Can you imagine the Repubs getting 8 more years in the White? We would OWN the courts.
So true, I'd vote against him and try to knock him out in the primaries, but if it came down to it, I'll pull the lever with the "R" on it.
Sadly, it would be "R" for RINO and not Republican.
Still, I thought he was a great leader for NYC during 9/11. I'll give him that in a second.
Hardly.
Most of the Justices on the Court were chosen by Republicans. Just electing a Republican President guarentees nothing insofar as the courts are concerned.
If Rudy were elected the Justice would probably have a more liberal view. If McCain were elected probably Liberal or Sandra Day O'Connor.
It depends on the Republican.
While I'd vote for Rudy IF he got out of the primaries primarily because I take the WOT seriously, I wouldn't vote him in the primaries largely because of the Courts.
McCain I won't vote for period. Say he were the nominee, I doubt it, but say he were. I'll scratch the race and start focusing on '12.
I'd say the Republicans COULD keep the W.H., but it depends on the nominee and right now I'm not impressed with the field.
Why do I get the feeling you and a lot of other FReepers would have take Rudy over Ron Reagan???
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