Posted on 01/01/2006 1:56:14 AM PST by Watery Tart
Traverse any blog or website geared to Republicans and the Conservative Right here in the United States (such as Free Republic or http://www.freerepublic.com ), and a strange dichotomy becomes evident with regard to Iraq.
First, they talk about every practicing Muslim and everyone of Arab descent as if they were a member of Al Qaeda and an animal. A popular photo on Free Republic shows a Grim Reaper with a skull and proclaims "Islam - It's the Evil of our Time, let's NOT leave it for our children".
See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1487236/posts
and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548226/posts
and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548198/posts
and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548214/posts
and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1508903/posts
Invariably, any discussion of Islam on these websites involves description of Muhammad as a pervert and a pedophile. In almost the same sentence, these people have no problem saying that they support Bush going into Iraq to promote Democracy for the people there. Yes, such wonderful things they and their President want for Iraqis.
Then, in a later thread, which might describe insurgents blowing something up in Iraq, they again continue their diatribe that all Muslims and Arabs are animals and should be killed or 'nuked'.
Queer folk these conservatives. Oops, they are going to be upset I called them Queer given their ridiculous hatred of gays. Ah well, what can one do?
I get the feeling that most Republicans secretly feel this way about Muslims and Arabs. I know President Bush has publicly said that he is not warring against Islam or Arabs, but against Saddam Hussein and the Terrorists, but I have this feeling that he and Uncle Dick say things altogether different in private.
In any case, the Republican electorate is virulently anti-Islam and that is a shame. Most practitioners of Islam that I have had the pleasure to know are wonderful, law abiding and hard working people.
The Iraq war is continuing to evolve into another phase that was predicted by many; anarchy and civil war.
The Shiites, who vastly outnumber Iraq's other two ethnic groups, Sunnis and Kurds, are naturally going to win any fair democratic elections in the country. The Sunnis and Kurds are not going to like this for many reasons among them that both groups are generally less observant of Islamic laws and traditions than the Shiites and the Shiites seem to want to steer Iraq toward fundamentalist Islam.
George Bush may claim (now, since no WMD were found) that he went to war to bring Democracy to the people of Iraq, but the net effect of his actions will likely be a Muslim Theocracy. Women in particular are going to suffer when the country becomes "The Shiite Islamic Republic of Iraq". [Don't forget the Children! --WT]
Democratic elections aren't going to turn out to be a good thing here and the Sunnis and Kurds know it. That is why they are protesting these elections tooth and nail. All the protesting and new elections, if they are able to attain them, will not help Sunnis and Kurds overcome the massive Shiite majority in the country.
Where does this leave us? The Freepers (as they like to call themselves) over at Free Republic deserve credit for some of the wackiest and creepiest (nuke all the people in over several dozen countries? Hello? Any humans on that site?) hypocrisy in history.
And President Bush, who was re-elected by an army of evangelical Christians for being such a “good Christian man” is going to be most remembered for establishing a radical Islamic Republic in Iraq.All of which proves the old axiom, truth is stranger then fiction, particularly when dealing with Republicans.
Authors Bio: Steven Leser is a freelance journalist specializing in Politics, Science & Health, and Entertainment topics. He has held positions within the Democratic Party including District Chair and Public Relations Chair within county organizations. His coverage of the Ohio Presidential Recount in 2004 was distinguished by actual interviews with Carlo Loparo, spokesperson for the Ohio Secretary of State, along with Supervisors of Elections of several Ohio counties. Similar efforts on other topics to get first hand information from sources separate Mr. Leser from many of his contemporaries.
... Then, in a later thread, which might describe insurgents blowing something up in Iraq, they (FReepers) again continue their diatribe that all Muslims and Arabs are animals and should be killed or 'nuked' ... I get the feeling that most Republicans secretly feel this way about Muslims and Arabs.
No secret here, little fella.
Maybe you can explain to me why one BILLION Muslims can't (or won't) control a few thousand terrorists/"insurgents"?
His problem is typical with libs/'Rats: 9/10 thinking in a 9/11 world. And he knows nothing of Islam.
"It seems that in his haste to get his story by trolling and leaving quickly, he forgot to note that everyone here has their own opinions and not everyone advocates nuking all Muslims."
You got it exactly right. There's great diversity of opinion here, as there is across America. The writer saw and reported what he wanted to see here; he lacked the integrity to report that that didn't support his view.
I think nearly all Freepers would agree that when our soldiers risked (and sometimes gave) their lives to liberate Iraq's 25 million, they certainly did not do it out of hatred and bigotry. There are leftists who seem to think they did. That is paranoid and hateful beyond understanding.
That's a great quiz. Puts Islam right where it belongs.
I've said that on numerous threads - even on this one. Not "nuke mecca" but "nuke 'em" - type stuff. For that I apologize. It's said in (mostly) jest but it could easily be construed by a left-wing pacifist to be a call to nuclear war. It's a little over the top.
I don't think any of us take it seriously, but I'll be more careful. Besides, I've always known that cooler (and smarter) heads prevail in Bush's administration.
Wow! What gravitas! Look at those credentials. What a lightweight this twit makes himself look like. His writing is less than compelling, coming across no better than a bitter Whoopie Goldberg in a diatribe at some awards presentation or some little mealy-mouthed neo-leftist student ranting on about topics with little to no understanding or persuasive conviction.
A true liberal phony...
Here's one for the collection
Something tells me that our new year is off to a good start. Let's just hope this trend continues because I always have fun reading this stuff.
Here's a wise observation from Cvengr that bears repeating.
The only difference is that he attacks others for attacking Islam, while he applies the same method he hates against conservatives.
Happy New Year to you as well, Patricia.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
let's see. He goes from a few cases of anti-Islamic statements on FR to ...
" In any case, the Republican electorate is virulently anti-Islam and that is a shame. "
Wow, what a lack of logic and evidence!
I'd like to see some polling. I doubt there would be much difference between the parties frankly.
I dont consider myself 'anti-Islamic'. I too know some wonderful people who are Muslim. That doesnt mean I'm blind to the TROP(tm)'s flaws and the extremist clerics who are fomenting terrorism. I *also* know, having read the histories of Muhammed, that calling him a brigand and polygamist is merely being historically accurate. Pedophile? Well, he married a 9-year-old among his 9 wives.
Go figure. Not every Muslim should be measured by that 7th century man's lifestyle, but Islam was shaped by how he lived, and it wasnt the life of a Jesus or a Buddha.
I also think Democracy in Iraq is a wonderful thing, and support the President's policies which have liberated Iraq.
See:
http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/
"Democratic elections aren't going to turn out to be a good thing here and the Sunnis and Kurds know it. That is why they are protesting these elections tooth and nail. All the protesting and new elections, if they are able to attain them, will not help Sunnis and Kurds overcome the massive Shiite majority in the country."
It's bad enough that he thinks democracy is a BAD THING, but he shows his ignorance here. The Kurds are *happy* with the Dec 15 result. The main Kurdish parties got a solid 50 seats, and that gives them good bargaining position.
Further The Shiite main bloc, the UIA, did *not* appear to get a majority. That is key, because it means that Iraq will have either a Shiite-Kurd alliance or a "national unity government" of all the players.
This DUmmy is right on one thing only: There are unfortunate expressions of anti-muslim/arab sentiment of the 'kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out' variety. I've argued against these sentiments too much and i've noticed that it comes from the 'paleocon' types who DONT WANT US IN IRAQ.
The way I look at it, the liberals think America is not good enough to intervene, the paleocons think the world is not good enough to deserve American blood or teasure.
But some of us patriots think America can and is doing the world good in supporting democracy, and the outcome will be a good thing for us and for the world.
"hysterical exaggeration #1"
What's funny is how he claims FR types are doing it about Muslims - actually minions of
Bin Laden, supporters of Hamas and other thuggish communities, but this guy is doing it about ....
Republicans!
oooh, what a dangerous sect these GOPers are.
"Most practitioners of Islam that I have had the pleasure to know are wonderful, law abiding and hard working people."
Would he ever admit out loud that ...
"Most Republicans that I have had the pleasure to know are wonderful, law abiding and hard working people."
... or does he try to avoid contact with those types entirely?
When Iran throws off the mad mullahs this year, some Iraqi Shiites are gonna have some uncomfortable moments...
"I don't like "nuke mecca" posts. Period, full stop. "
I dont either. Even after a terrorist attack and tempers are up. If it's wrong, and nothing is more wrong than wanting thousands of civilians killed, then dont even say it. Even in jest.
"For that I apologize. It's said in (mostly) jest but it could easily be construed by a left-wing pacifist to be a call to nuclear war. It's a little over the top."
TAKE NOTE: LIBERALS USE "JOKES" LIKE THIS TO TAG THIS AS A HATE SITE. DONT GIVE THEM THE AMMO.
FR rules say: "NO racism or violence in posts." Consider
"I don't think any of us take it seriously, but I'll be more careful."
Good plan. In the 2004 campaign, Jerome Corsi was uncovered as an FR poster and some of his 'jokes' were twisted into getting him labelled as anti-gay, anti-Muslim, etc. etc.
Just dont do it.
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