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Churchill wanted Hitler sent to the electric chair
The Sunday Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1/1/2006 | Chris Hastings

Posted on 12/31/2005 7:08:33 PM PST by 1066AD

Churchill wanted Hitler sent to the electric chair Chris Hastings, Arts Correspondent (Filed: 01/01/2006)

Sir Winston Churchill, Britain's wartime Prime Minister, planned to execute Adolf Hitler in the electric chair if the Nazi leader fell into Allied hands.

Churchill referred to Adolf Hitler as ‘the mainspring of evil’ Declassified documents reveal that Churchill was opposed to Allied plans for war crimes trials and wanted summarily to execute leading Nazi figures including Hitler who he regarded as "the mainspring of evil" and a "gangster".

They also show that he was willing, against the advice of his Cabinet colleagues, to "wipe out" defenceless German villages in retaliation for Nazi atrocities in Czechoslovakia.

The disclosures are contained in notebooks kept by Sir Norman Brook, the former wartime deputy cabinet secretary, who kept an account of proceedings in a form of shorthand.

On July 6, 1942, according to his notes, the Prime Minister said: "Contemplate tht. if Hitler falls into our hands we shall certainly put him to death.

"Not a Sovereign who cd be said to be in hands of Ministers, like Kaiser. This man is the mainspring of evil. Instrument - electric chair, for gangsters no doubt available on lend-lease."

Churchill's choice of the electric chair was despite the fact that it was never used in Britain before the final abolition of the death penalty in 1965.

Sir Norman's notebooks, which are being made public by the National Archives at Kew, reveal Churchill to be a ruthless commander who was prepared to override moral and legal considerations to defeat Germany.

On July 7, 1943, Churchill argued passionately that leading Nazis who fell into British hands should be treated as "outlaws" and shot rather than put on trial.

"I suggested that U.N. to draw up a list of 50 or so wd. be declared as outlaws by the 33 Nations. (Those not on the list might be induced to rat!) If any of these found by advancing troops, nearest offr. of brigade rank shd. call a military court to establish identity and shd. then execute w'out higher authority."

The papers also show that he was willing to "bump of" Himmler and shoot German prisoners of war should Germany begin doing the same to British prisoners.

Churchill's own six volume history of the conflict, The Second World War, makes no reference to this disagreement over war crimes trials and includes just a passing reference to "the unexpectedly ultra-respectable, 'no executions without trial' line being taken by Stalin".

Equally controversial will be the revelation in the notebooks, that Churchill wanted the RAF to wipe out German villages in retaliation for the massacre of civilians in Lidice, a Czech village, which was razed to the ground by the SS.

The Prime Minister abandoned his plan only in the face of opposition from Cabinet colleagues. On June 15, 1942, he said: "My instinct is strongly the other way... I submit (unwillingly) to the view of Cabinet against."

It may be that Churchill would have lived to regret the raids. Within weeks of authorising bombing raids on the German town of Dresden in 1945 he began to question the wisdom of the policy. He would later say that the deaths of up to 30,000 German civilians raised a "query against the conduct of Allied bombers".

The notebooks also reveal Churchill's preferred method for dealing with Gandhi, the Indian nationalist leader, who embarked on a hunger strike in 1942.

Churchill, almost alone among his Cabinet colleagues, did not see the need to cave into the Gandhi's demands even though many observers believed he only had days to live.

He finally agreed for a reprieve on condition that Gandhi's release did not cause Britain to lose face. On January 7, 1943 he asked colleagues: "Why give way to h-strike by Gandhi?

"Let him out as an act of State, rather than an act of submission to G' will. I wd. keep him there and let him do as he likes... But if you are going to let him out because he strikes, then let him out now... Tell Viceroy."

Churchill was equally dismissive of Gen Charles de Gaulle, one of Britain's closest allies, who he believed suffered from "an insensate ambition" and who was the "greatest living barrier to re-union and restoration of France".

The notebooks reveal that the plight of Jewish communities in Europe and the Middle East was a frequent topic of discussion at Cabinet.

On December 14, 1942, Churchill asked Anthony Eden, his Foreign Secretary, whether reports about "the wholesale massacre of Jews" by "electrical methods" were true.

Eden tells him that "Jews are being withdrawn from Norway and sent to Poland, for some such purposes evidently". Eden, is, however, unable to "confirm the method" of killing.

Churchill, himself, seems to have been more concerned with the fate of "Poles, not Jews" as the war drew to a close. On March 28, 1945, he said: "Actually we have a very small Jewish population compared with other countries. I'm only concerned with Poles - and Poles who have really fought."

Sir Norman also records on June 11, 1945, that Churchill described Russia's advance into Central Europe as "one of the most terrible events in history".

Despite the USSR's advances Churchill still believed there was a place for British values. On July 12, 1943, he said: "Propagate our language all over world is best method. Harmonises with my ideas for future of world. This will be the English speaking century."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Russia; United Kingdom
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Churchill, like "W" today, understood the stakes.
1 posted on 12/31/2005 7:08:35 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD

I see nothing shocking in the things Churchill considered, if one is aware of the times. Hitler was bent on wiping out England and teh rest of the Western democracies. He almost succeeded. And indeed Hitler was the epitome of evil. Did the Nuremberg trials really make a difference?


3 posted on 12/31/2005 7:15:15 PM PST by Williams
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To: 1066AD

Just one more reason he deserves to be remembered as the Man of the 20th Century, imo.

Bruised and battered, he arose from the ashes of defeat to battle and beat sworn enemies.

For that, we can all be grateful.


4 posted on 12/31/2005 7:16:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 1066AD

That's a lot nicer than me, I'd have wanted Hitler sent to the woodchipper.


5 posted on 12/31/2005 7:17:14 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: 1066AD

Winston was a man of honor. Historians mostly have treated him with kindness, as is right so. God placed him in the right place at the right time. To think otherwise would be folly. It would be hard to see who else would have better served the British during those long dark days. And where he had no delusions about Stalin, Roosevelt fell short.


6 posted on 12/31/2005 7:20:46 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: 1066AD

Never Give an Inch ........ how could you not love the man if you love liberty and western democracy?


7 posted on 12/31/2005 7:23:41 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (I will not support evil just because "It's the Law.")
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To: Zeroisanumber
Today, Hitler would be defended by Ramsey Clark. CNN would be showing portraying the Nazis as as freedom fighters and explaining the feelings of "the German Street". Bund members would be seen as troubled people torn between their homeland and the country they live in.

The MSM is a problem, a big problem.

8 posted on 12/31/2005 7:26:11 PM PST by Sociopathocracy (Ad majorem Dei gloriam)
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To: 1066AD
Reading through that I wonder what the writer's motives are. Did he want us to feel sorry for Hitler and to despise Churchill? Sure seems that way.

I guess the new wave of anti-Semitism in Europe has given birth to a pro-Nazi press right there in England.

9 posted on 12/31/2005 7:31:06 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: 1066AD

I'd have sent him to the "shower"; then to the oven.


10 posted on 12/31/2005 7:32:06 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: 1066AD

Exellent idea . . . they could have sold tickets.

These days we can sell Obama bin Ladin on pay per view when he takes the needle.


11 posted on 12/31/2005 7:33:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: 1066AD

But what if he had written a children's book and warned kids about joining future Hitler Youth gangs?


12 posted on 12/31/2005 7:35:26 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: 1066AD

California was using the cyanide gas chamber by then. I'm sure they'd have gladly have accommodated Hitler if Winnie had known to ask. That said...I think the suicide thing worked out just fine.


13 posted on 12/31/2005 7:38:55 PM PST by RichInOC (SATAN: WIE GEHT'S ADOLF!! IHRE GANZE SEELE SIND GEHOEREN UNS. HITLER: WAS SIE SAGEN!!)
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This will be the English speaking century.

He was right on that one.

14 posted on 12/31/2005 7:41:01 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: 1066AD
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." -- Winston Churchill

God bless Mr. Churchill.

15 posted on 12/31/2005 7:41:25 PM PST by grimalkin (“They have an engine called the Press whereby the people are deceived.” - C.S. Lewis)
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>>>"Churchill, like "W" today, understood the stakes"<<<

I only hope that fifty-one percent of us understand.

We have lost our Leaders... shy of 51% the only thing left is rebellion, protest etc etc etc MSM won't / can't / doesn't care about the Country or us, our elected Representatives have become such a spineless bowl of jelly and yet still get re-elected, so without 51 percent we are screwed.

I never want to live like the PETA, MADD, or FOE disciples so I just have to have faith in the 51%.
Or I just Hope that our Leadership can Evolve a Spine, learn how to Lead or find new employment, any one of which would improve the future.
TT
16 posted on 12/31/2005 7:46:50 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Williams

Did the Nuremberg trials really make a difference?



One has to keep in mind that the Nuremburg trials were
in themselves an unusual event, nothing like that had
ever been done before.


17 posted on 12/31/2005 7:53:35 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: muawiyah

It has to smart to when they read Churchill and make the connections in their own minds to G.W.B. There are similarities, too many even for a Liberal to be blind to no matter how full of hate they may be for our President. I suspect the tone of the piece frames the arthor's mind as this unsettling comparison is made, resulting in the dim view of Churchill's thoughts and expressws wish in the article he would have regretted it had he done so.


18 posted on 12/31/2005 7:56:44 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: 1066AD
Churchill was equally dismissive of Gen Charles de Gaulle, one of Britain's closest allies, who he believed suffered from "an insensate ambition" and who was the "greatest living barrier to re-union and restoration of France".

Speaking of electric chairs...

19 posted on 12/31/2005 8:03:59 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: 1066AD

Adolph's Meat Tenderizer

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Electric_chair.jpg


20 posted on 12/31/2005 8:11:22 PM PST by voteconstitutionparty
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