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POLICE ORDER D.C. CHAPTER'S PRO-TROOPS WALTER REED DEMONSTRATION SILENCED
Friday, December 30, 2005 | Kristinn

Posted on 12/30/2005 8:07:26 PM PST by kristinn

An officer with Washington, D.C.'s Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) ordered the D.C. Chapter of Free Republic to silence our voices tonight at our weekly support the troops demonstration outside Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

The officer cited complaints from the neighborhood about the noise our voices make as we chastise the so-called antiwar protesters across the street at the main gate to Walter Reed.

The officer went across the street and issued the same order to the Code Pinkos. We're not sure if the order applies to their singalong guitar player (who serenaded the wounded troops tonight with Bob Dylan's "Knocking on Heaven's Door".)

Two weeks ago, several MPD officers staked out our Walter Reed demonstration. One officer issued a similar order but he did not enforce it as we verbally challenged it on First Amendment grounds and called in a complaint to MPD's 4th District HQ where Walter Reed is located.

We plan to formally challenge tonight's order as a violation of our First Amendment rights. D.C. case law is extremely "liberal" when it comes to exercising First Amendment rights and we believe there is strong grounds for our right to vocalize our political beliefs.

Our permit application on file with MPD clearly states that we planned to use battery powered megaphones. MPD has not denied the usage of megaphones when they processed the application. However, out of respect for the residents in the mixed-use area we have never used megaphones--just our voices.

The D.C. noise ordinance kicks in at 10 p.m. We stop using our loud voices between 9 and 9:30 p.m. when Code Pink slinks off before the Fran O'Brien's bus returns to Walter Reed with the soldiers and their family members.

Several months ago, Code Pink left fliers at the doors of residences near Walter Reed encouraging them to call the police to complain about our vocal exercising of our First Amendment rights.

We understand the complaints of those who live in the neighborhood, however our demonstration would be crippled if we were silenced.

We've never had to file a lawsuit in seven years of activism in our nation's capital, but there's a first time for everything.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: badcop; dcchapter; disturbingthepeace; firstamendment; pinkosarenuts; treason; walterreed
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To: tgslTakoma

I would recommend singing Green Berets in response. Perhaps that would cause them to shreek and melt like the wicked witch.


41 posted on 12/30/2005 8:33:12 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked ( God Bless our Military)
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To: tgslTakoma

bttt


42 posted on 12/30/2005 8:33:33 PM PST by timestax
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To: kristinn

Thanks for letting us know...

THIS stinks bad...and what a Bah! Humbug! during the Holidays!

I think they might want to rethink pushing ya'll around..because I can forsee more freepers wanting to join your group...for MORE voices.

I bet if the patients at Walter Reed were asked, they would say they appreciate what you do.

Is there any way you could maybe get a copy of the flyer that Code Pinko supposedly put on the doors of the neighbors?


43 posted on 12/30/2005 8:33:39 PM PST by Txsleuth (I became a snow flake today!)
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To: kristinn

Dry gulch 'em!


44 posted on 12/30/2005 8:33:44 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Rhythm and system and world control, magnetic, genetic, to match your soul.)
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To: kristinn

Hang in there, kristinn. Whatever you need, please let all of us know....


45 posted on 12/30/2005 8:35:54 PM PST by demkicker
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To: Hoodlum91

did you see this?


46 posted on 12/30/2005 8:37:53 PM PST by Landry Fan (It's Still Christmas!)
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To: kristinn
We plan to formally challenge tonight's order as a violation of our First Amendment rights. D.C. case law is extremely "liberal" when it comes to exercising First Amendment rights and we believe there is strong grounds for our right to vocalize our political beliefs.

Whatever you do, don't ask the ACLU for help.

They'll brag about it for years to come.

47 posted on 12/30/2005 8:38:02 PM PST by aculeus
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To: MJY1288

YES! Pinging MARK! You are a GENIUS!


48 posted on 12/30/2005 8:38:50 PM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: tgslTakoma
The perserverance and dedication of the DC Chapter of FreeRepublic is without a doubt one of the biggest strengths of FR.

For those who don't know, these same people showed up every Saturday for over two years to protest the Klintoon administration and their traitorous activities.

I know these people to be courteous, and true to their conservative values.

That someone in that particular neighborhood is being bothered by their noise is a curious accusation. How much of their so-called noise can even be heard above the roar of 6 lanes of traffic?

Let me know if y'all need some help, Takoma!

49 posted on 12/30/2005 8:39:18 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Okay, out with it. What is dry gulching? One never knows when one might need a new idea or weapon.


50 posted on 12/30/2005 8:39:32 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked ( God Bless our Military)
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To: solitas

That is excellent advice. We had a similar run-in with the Harrisburg Police Dept. some years ago, when I was with a Prolife group protesting outside an abortion clinic. The lawyer with our group looked up the codes regarding how many decibels of sound were allowed by the codes before a violation kicked in. When measured, the sound of our voices was within limits. The police stood down at future demonstrations, after being advised of this by our attorney.


51 posted on 12/30/2005 8:40:29 PM PST by Palladin (All the way with Alito!)
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To: kristinn
The First Amendment does not allow you to make a "public nuisance" or "disturb the peace," but if you were making a legitimate political protest, then you have a right to have that heard.... and residents have right to quiet enjoyment of their properties... so courts decide rights in conflict.

Suggest you get a decibel (sound loudness) meter. Radio Shack has them for a few $. Measure the volume of your protest at the closest approach on public property to the closest private residence. Then measure the volume of passing buses, boom boxes on wheels, etc. from the same position.

Most municipalities have a noise ordinance that specifies how loud in decibels noise must be to be a disturbance. Cops rarely have a decibel meter to measure. If they have one, question calibration, calibration of the calibrating device, presence of operating manual, officer's training, etc.

If you can testify that you were monitoring your levels and police had no scientific measurement, case adjourned.
52 posted on 12/30/2005 8:43:25 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: bnelson44
Then who are the "neighbors" who are complaining? Patients in the hospital?

People who live in the rowhouses along Georgia Avenue, directly across the street from Walter Reed.

I also think our presence has disrupted the local drug and prostitution businesses.

The 24 hour traffic, including buses and 18-wheel tractor trailers driving by make more noise than we do.

From this link,
Historic Georgia Avenue, formerly the Seventh Street Turnpike, was once the transportation route running north into the countryside from Downtown Washington. Along this avenue, Irish, Germans, Italians, Greeks, and Eastern European immigrants and entrepreneurs built their communities.

More recently, communities of Caribbean, Latino, and African people have added their cultures to this mix. Today, with revitalizing underway, Georgia Avenue is a busy commercial street that serves a series of varied neighborhoods along its five-mile route to the District line.

Georgia Avenue has been a main route for going-on two hundred years. People who chose to live on this busy road can't say they "didn't know it was a busy road."

53 posted on 12/30/2005 8:43:49 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: kristinn

Keeping you in Prayer.


54 posted on 12/30/2005 8:44:42 PM PST by del4hope (Snowflake....with school excuse)
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To: kristinn

OK - let me get this straight---

The anti-war, anti-American freak-show can scream and holler profanity, hold insulting signs for the soldiers to see, and generally make themselves a nusance - and that's protected.... BUT - the D.C. Chapter of FR cannot have a counter-protest at the same site (and for less time and with generally less disturbance)?

Someone PLEASE take this to court. This would be a MAJOR and OBVIOUS infringement of free-speech. Isn't that one of those rights the left is always screeming about?


55 posted on 12/30/2005 8:45:10 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: solitas

Great minds think.....


56 posted on 12/30/2005 8:45:50 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: MindBender26

Thanks. if it did go to court, there would definitely be a balancing test between competing rights.


57 posted on 12/30/2005 8:46:19 PM PST by kristinn
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To: tgslTakoma

Are they still allowing the anti-war miscreants to rant and rave?


58 posted on 12/30/2005 8:47:27 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: Txsleuth

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1486212/posts


59 posted on 12/30/2005 8:48:13 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I guess we'll find out next Friday night.

The police officer arrived as the PinkOs were closing down their blood dance tonight.

If GuitarMan shows up next week and begins his bloody minstrel show, we'll see what the police do.


60 posted on 12/30/2005 8:51:24 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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