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Defying 'Silent Night' in Pennsylvania [Angry Liberal Christmas-Hater]
Jerusalem Post ^ | Dec. 25, 2005 | Judy Maltz

Posted on 12/25/2005 10:37:22 AM PST by Alouette

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To: Alouette
You know, the most common answer I get when I speak out against things in this society that I do not approve of is "If you dont like it, then dont (purchase, attend, look at, listen to, participate in) it.

If you dont like Christmas, then dont participate. Just shut the hell up and let decent people that do like Christmas enoy it.

21 posted on 12/25/2005 10:56:00 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Alouette

Yep, love the tolerance there. It is okay for ONE family who objects to Christmas songs ruin the holiday for the rest of the whole school instead of just bagging out of the school choir.


22 posted on 12/25/2005 10:57:16 AM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: Alouette
We did not attend the "Holiday Sing" this year.

Good f***ing riddance.

23 posted on 12/25/2005 10:57:20 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Alouette

She has no trouble refering to non-Jews as "heathens" or "pagans" by using the term gentile.


24 posted on 12/25/2005 10:57:27 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: aberaussie

"I think the second choice would have been better. When I find myself the only one bothered by an issue, I usually just shut up about it and not participate if I find it unbearable...."

I go through this every Thanksgiving when my wacky liberal extended family gets together....I just grin....when I zing em with the truth...and bear it....when they freak out with nonsense.


25 posted on 12/25/2005 10:57:38 AM PST by fizziwig
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To: Alouette

Well, parents have a right to not have their children taught in another religion, whether it is Christianity or Lesbian Humanism. I wonder where we are getting to the point that public schools don't make sense because there is so little agreement on basics.

A better alternative would have been to just ask that your kids not attend choir and have a different class.


26 posted on 12/25/2005 10:57:49 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Alouette
Reading the replies to this person from other readers of the Post it rather heartening; at least two thirds of their fellow Jews rip 'em a new one for their arrogance. Most respondents let them have it for moving to a predominantly Christian area and then acting like putzes.
There are jerks in every faith
27 posted on 12/25/2005 10:59:37 AM PST by RedStateRocker
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To: Alouette

I grew up in a town, where there were very few Jewish people. The three Jewish kids in my graduating high school class of 370 were a high number.

One year, my German teacher asked my to stay after class. She had a quick question for me. She wanted to teach the class German Christmas carols. Was that okay with me?

I told her I had no problem. What I didn't tell her was that I was slightly offended. It wasn't the Christmas carols that bothered me. It was that she thought I was such a hypersensitive ninny that I would be offended.

What I didn't realize, until I left the small, mostly gentile town I grew up in, is that there are so many hypersensitive ninnies like Judy Maltz in the world.


28 posted on 12/25/2005 10:59:50 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Alouette
So who would she rather Goys worship? A Jewish Carpenter, or an Aryan Nazi?

Take yer pick Judy.

29 posted on 12/25/2005 11:00:08 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("As long as I have my health,,,,,,,,my millions of dollars, gold house, and rocket car." CJ Lampwick)
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To: Alouette
It sounded like the perfect antidote to our crazy lives in Israel: a quiet college town surrounded by mountains and streams, endless kilometers of bike paths, a three-minute commute to work,

and all this thanks to them wacky Christians and their daring to sing Silent Night!!! Can you magine??? May Lord have mercy on their confused souls! First they didn't believe Jesus was son of God, then they wanted to kill the baby, then they cricified him, then ....

30 posted on 12/25/2005 11:01:09 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: Alouette
The day Tamar told her classmates she was leaving the school, I encountered the father of a classmate of hers, a reverend of a local Lutheran congregation. "Why not?" he asked, when I said we did not feel religious songs should be sung in American public schools, in response to his queries about our decision to pull Tamar out. "I think it's intolerant to demand that Christians not be able to sing their songs."
And by the way, he said, he was happy that his daughter had had the opportunity to meet a Jewish child and learn "lots of things" about the Jewish religion. "Tamar taught my daughter that 'shalom' means hi, bye and peace," he said.

Sad, but true. Just a-year-and-a-half in America, and my children now feel more Jewish than they ever did in Israel.


Now look at this. What a wonderful thing. A Christian man just showed her love, acceptance, and understanding and respect of her Jewish beliefs. What is this woman's problem? What is she so offended over?
31 posted on 12/25/2005 11:01:17 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Jack Black
A better alternative would have been to just ask that your kids not attend choir and have a different class.

An obvious solution that seems to have eluded her

32 posted on 12/25/2005 11:01:18 AM PST by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toiletat)
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To: Alouette

I think we should pray for her salvation. Especially her children who are at this young age learning to hate.

33 posted on 12/25/2005 11:03:26 AM PST by raybbr (ANWAR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
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To: Alouette

This parental idiocy amazes me. If I moved to Israel, I would expect my children to be learning and living in THAT culture. This author admits that most of her friends were not Orthodox" (meaning NOT PRACTICING) Jews. Also stated- the author expected to be a minority. Put these together. Connect the dots. What the HECK!? 99% of the school is to be oppressed by her famiy? No one is forcing them to hang lights on their house. No one is FORCING them to worship or believe in Christ, heck her children don't HAVE to sing the songs.

I would ENJOY the opportunity these experiences would bring to my family. What a GREAT opportunity to ACTUALLY TEACH your children the differences in beliefs and cultures. What a GREAT OPENING to use as a tool to ACTUALLY TEACH YOUR CHILDREN WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND WHY!

I teach my children about the Jewish beliefs and culture. I also teach them to EMBRACE them.

After Christ arose- the Apostles dealt with a great divide. They argued about the Jews having to stop their traditions and become Christian, or the Christians having to "become" Jews. It created a split, the Jews utlimately rebuked Christ in all essence of the meaning. The Christians became bitter, etc..... Each group claiming they had the divine answers.

sad that this family is more interested in ignoring the chance to instill any belief system in their home, and using this as a political football field to try and force an ALL OUT SECULAR standard on the entire community. Very sad indeed. The whole time they wage this war- they act like THEY ARE VICTIMS!????

RIDICULOUS!

My boss is Jewish. She bought me Christmas gifts, and gave me a Christmas bonus. I am her ONLY EMPLOYEE! She did NOT have to do this!

She also JSUT sold her home, and is looking for a new one. I did not give her a Christmas gift. I will however be giving her a Hanukkah gift. I bought her a Mezuzah to but on the door jam of her new home.

I love and respect her and her beliefs. She does mine as well. She is constantly amazed and so touched by my knowledge of her traditions and culture. I tell her how I love the way they spell G-d instead of GOD and WHY they do that. I tell her how I LOVE THE IDEA and reasoning behind it. I tell her how I love the story of Hanukkah, how we celebrate Sader at our church and do our communion in Hebrew.

It is a GREAT and AWESOME country we live in.

GOD BLESS AMERICA and Shame on those that feel they have the right to come here for a JOB and CHANGE our traditions.

I would NEVER go to Israel and try the same shananigans. SHAME ON THEM! These people have missed a great opportunity to really strengthen their children, but instead choose to perpetuate a VICTIM attitude in them...... what a poor excuse for parenting....


sorry for the rant, please add me to your ping list....


34 posted on 12/25/2005 11:04:00 AM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

Merry Christmas Celtjew and Happy Hanukahh

Some of the girls in my family have tattoos of the star of david with a shamrock inside it.

Im not kidding

Blessings on you and yours


35 posted on 12/25/2005 11:04:53 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Jack Black
Interesting. Your post raises in interesting (for me, anyway) point; if this *IS* a 'Christian' nation then a solid grounding in Christina principles and practices IS part of an education.

OF course I would venture that no one could ever understand American culture without a deep understanding of the Bible; even if they were virulently atheist they would never grok a great deal of history or underlying tides of current events - from allusions in speeches of right or left to the reasons for the actions of various parties in the Civil Rights and Abortion issues.
36 posted on 12/25/2005 11:05:15 AM PST by RedStateRocker
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To: Alouette
Penn State was my alma mater. My Mum and Dad went to PSU, so there was no doubt that I was going there, too.

Centre County, where PSU is located, is a booming place due to the university presence. I never thought of State College as a hick town, just a smaller version of the suburbia that many PSU students grew up in back home.

I'm sorry that the Jewish family tried to remake the area into one fitting their own comfort zone. If I went to Israel, I would never try to remake my neighborhood. I would celebrate our diversity and hope that they saw me as a good neighbor, a person of good will.

Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah to all.

37 posted on 12/25/2005 11:06:04 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: packrat35
And some Jews wonder why they are not liked.

The Jews I know aren't this moronic. They don't participate in Christmas celebrations other than to take the day off from work. One also changes the station on his radio when the Christmas music starts. Yet none of them actually object to others enjoying the season.

38 posted on 12/25/2005 11:07:44 AM PST by stevem
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To: Alouette

"We requested a meeting with the supervisor to present our grievences,not threatening legal action,but then again not ruling it out entirely."I suspect a lawsuit is in the works as i write this.Maybe they'll retire,and move back to Israel.America,the land of opprotunity.Shalom.


39 posted on 12/25/2005 11:08:11 AM PST by Thombo2
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40 posted on 12/25/2005 11:09:23 AM PST by kenth (Merry Christmas!)
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