Posted on 12/22/2005 6:51:11 PM PST by WatchYourself
I guess just give them each $5 million so they can come in and retire.
Latin American Indian peasant immigrants are often praised by the open borders crowd as "pro family," and therefore a boon to this country. For one thing, that's not reason enough to let 'em all in, for another, the same can be said of most third-world immigrants. The lack of the rule of law in much of the underdeveloped and developing world means the extended family is the only institution within which trust can prevail and upon which you can count for defense and retribution.
That's life in the "new America". According to George Bush, this may be exactly what he wants as he extolls the wonders of the hispanic culture.
We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.
Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.
For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.
George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.
"Hiring illegal immigration is a modern form of virtual slavery."
Piffle. Living in the Southwest all my life I've encountered lots of illegals and none of them thought they were slaves. They endured a great deal of discrimination, but they worked hard for the sake of their families back home, and never lost their pride.
And most of them ended up learning quite a bit of English, even if it wasn't their first language.
Let them acclimatize, and their children will grow up being English-speakers (though they will still use Spanish at home).
We've lost 43 million people in this country in the last 30 years due to abortion; we can afford to gain 5 million from immigration--people who WORK, don't want to become generational welfare recipients, and who share conservative family values. (More Hispanics are voting Republican than ever before.)
I think the presidents answer was to pay their medical bills
Point taken....however, it is far easier for people from Cuba and Mexico to come here than it is for Indians.
The airfare from India to the US costs several times the average Indian's annual income. And, it is a long walk/swim from Calcutta to Columbus.
When Chertoff spoke of escorting these people out of the country, he was speaking only of the "catch and release" program. As it is currently run, any illegal that is caught at the Mexican border has one of two things happen to him. If he is Mexican, he is immediately transported back to his county of origin since it's just a quick drive back over the border. If the illegal is not Mexican, then they are issued a citation to report for a deportation hearing at a later date and then released, ergo: catch and release. Chertoff's original comments were that they wanted to detain these people and return them to their country of citizenship rather then releasing them and hoping they'd come back for the hearing. It did not address people already here illegally.
So, tough talking aside, Chertoff (or the Administration, for that matter) has never been serious about dealing with illegals already here, presumably doing jobs Americans don't want to do. The motivation for amnesty, um, guest workers is simple....you don't have to deal with Social Security payments, pensions, healthcare, et al. with the added benefit of suppressing wages for Americans in similar industries. And if you threaten to end the program you get the horror stories about how your food prices will go up, etc, which the facts just don't support as was demonstrated in the tomato and grape farming industry at the end of the bracero program (the last legal amnesty program)in the 1960's.
Let the Democrats be in charge, then everything would be wonderful.
Where did that number come from? I have never seen 5 million used for anything. Illegals number about 11 million by all accounts. Legal immigration, which we are not talking about (and you conveniently omit) is set by Congress.
And most of them ended up learning quite a bit of English, even if it wasn't their first language.
Then why do we need government forms printed in spanish?
Let them acclimatize, and their children will grow up being English-speakers (though they will still use Spanish at home).
Prove it.
(More Hispanics are voting Republican than ever before.)
At what cost to our system? What will the next Republican candidate have to promise the hispanic lobby in order to retain GW's 40% vote?
Do you often talk to yourself?
Or better yet, what will the GOP have to promise Mexico to get the Hispanic vote ?
Fast food stand? Oh like McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's etc? Those poor multi-billion dollar food stands?
Too funny.
I don't agree with the characterization of individuals willingly working for agreed upon wages as slavery as that would make us all slaves, but this is not necessarily the hill I wish to die on.
Last night on the Lou Dobbs' show (CNN) there was a discussion of illegal immigration and one of the guests, Congressman Tom Tancredo, raised this very apposite question: We see that Fox engages in outrageous violations of American sovereignty and encourages this invasion of our borders. We all know this. BUT - where is George Bush? Why isn't he upholding his constitutional oath to defend us against foreign invasion and why is he aiding and abetting a policy that's clearly brought us social, economic, and political disaster? The NSA "spy" matter is not an impeachable offense but an important part of national security. However, Bush's "no border" policy clearly endangers us socially and economically but also in terms of NATIONAL SECURITY!! If some terrorists waltz across the border and kill thousands of Americans will Bush go into hiding and say he just wanted a few hispanic votes and thought they came here to do jobs Americans wouldn't do? Dick Morris said long ago that that would be a truly impeachable offense. He's right!!
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I would agree if we have to work, it’s not by choice, and then we all are slaves. Its when working conditions fall below standards I would suggest that is the form of slavery we all detest.
Illegal immigrants have lower living standards, often not by choice, and if given the freedom, such as citizenship, the opportunity for an education as granted to the slaves in the south when they were set “free”, the illegal immigrants of today would take the same path.
Just take a look at some of the biggest ranches in the valley, where some of the most wealthiest live while some of the poorest, such as from illegal immigrants from Sanger come to work and, if these ranches don’t look like plantations from the south of old, I don’t know what does, I mean you can almost picture Scarlet Ohare the front porch.
Bienvenidos a Amexica. Oprima el numero dos para Ingles.
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