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NSA (letter to Senate)
NRO ^ | KJ Lopez

Posted on 12/22/2005 12:03:18 PM PST by hipaatwo

writes to the Senate about the eavesdropping frenzy.

It's a PDF file


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; d; nsa; patriotleak; spying
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To: Peach
See In re Sealed Case, 3 10 F.3d at 745; United States v. Duggan, 743 F.2d 59. 72 (2d Cir. 1984) (recognizing that the Fourth Amendment implications of foreign intelligence surveillance are far different from ordinary wiretapping, because they are not principally used for criminal prosecution).

Exactly! Intelligence collection is not for law enforcement purposes. It doesn't matter whether or not the findings would stand up in court. That's not the idea. The idea is to provide warning of catastrophic attacks by armed agents of a foriegn power.

61 posted on 12/22/2005 12:42:10 PM PST by Steel Wolf (* No sleep till Baghdad! *)
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To: JAKraig

Oh, that information is helpful alright, Mr. Assistant Attorney General. It has me laughing so hard I'm afraid I'll hurt myself.


62 posted on 12/22/2005 12:42:50 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Wristpin
"Any such briefings will be conducted in a manner that will not endanger national security."

Meaning "your access to classified information has been terminated!"

Do you really think so? I detest nuance.

63 posted on 12/22/2005 12:42:51 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Steel Wolf

I can't get over the left's fake moral indignation and apparent amnesia over both previous court decisions that support the president's authority in this matter as well as Clinton's use of similar authority.


64 posted on 12/22/2005 12:43:57 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Lucky you. I just have to soldier on and hope not too many PDF files come up.


65 posted on 12/22/2005 12:44:36 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: TheCrusader
Exactly right....see this:

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A Must Read:

Unholy Alliance :
Radical Islam and the American Left (Hardcover)
by David Horowitz

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Vastly Illuminating, September 25, 2004

Reviewer: Kat Bakhu (Albuquerque, NM United States) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air.

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66 posted on 12/22/2005 12:45:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: pbrown

I just see PDF and move on and ignore it; otherwise I seem to approach near-crash status. It won't surprise me in the least if the computer guru just tells me to buy a new hard drive, even though this computer is only 2 years old.


67 posted on 12/22/2005 12:46:20 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: hipaatwo
At the bottom of Page 4, there is this statement from a court case "Haig vs Agee" (1981):

"It is obvious and unarguable that no governmental interest is more compelling than the security of the Nation."

In one phrase, this captures what the Democrats are fighting against.....what they do not recognize and want to destroy....the "compelling interest" of the Nation to protect itself.

despicable bastards!

68 posted on 12/22/2005 12:46:23 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: hipaatwo

That puts paid to this month's "scandal."

Stay tuned for whatever the MSM fabricates for next month (and the next)...

69 posted on 12/22/2005 12:46:54 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: b4its2late

Thank you!


70 posted on 12/22/2005 12:47:13 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: HardStarboard

I hope this letter gets out to the public, but I doubt it.


71 posted on 12/22/2005 12:47:35 PM PST by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo; All
The arguments are complicated, but the bottom line is clear. As a consequence of prior decisions of the US Supreme Court, and lower courts including a Circuit Court of Appeals and the FISA Court itself, the President does have the very authority which he has claimed and used in this matter. Furthermore, prior Presidents had and used the same authority.

So anyone like John ("I don't have a clue") Dean and Senator Barbara ("box of rocks") Boxer, who are prattling about "impeachment," have to explain why they did not seek impeachment on the same grounds against every prior President, beginning with Jimmy Carter. Absent that explanation, they are rightly dismissed as bigoted hypocrites.

Did I miss anything?

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Al Jazeera in the US: Al Gore's 'current TV' "

72 posted on 12/22/2005 12:48:06 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: Mo1

I will not be happy unless Rockefeller is arrested. I know the political class protects itself, but realy, isn't there an end to the crap they pull in undermining the country?


73 posted on 12/22/2005 12:48:12 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: pbrown

Well it means that they will no longer recieve classified info from this NSA program.

Now if the repubs had a set, they would be demanding that these "accused leakers" immediately resign from the Senate Intelligence committee. If the shoe were on the other foot you know the Dems would be.


74 posted on 12/22/2005 12:48:13 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: hipaatwo

OK who is first up in the dock? someone needs to be put away for a very long time.


75 posted on 12/22/2005 12:48:13 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (MERRRY CHRISTMAS - GOD BLESS US EVERYONE!)
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To: hipaatwo
If post #12 does not help you, due to not being able to show the tool bars while in a pdf document window, etc.. TRY THIS. Depress the "v" key. Take note of the cursor shape. Now depress the "h" key. Notice it goes back to the default mouse cursor for move.
Now depress the "v" key again to get the verticle bar for a cursor. Position your cursor where you want to cut and as normal drag until you highlite what you want to cut. Now depress the CNTRL "c" sequence to copy the text into the buffer.
Open up your Microsoft Word or other word processor, and using the CNTRL "v" keys paste the text into your editor's window. This CNTRL V sequence will also allow you to paste stuff from the PDF document into a Freeper Post.
Hope this helps.
76 posted on 12/22/2005 12:49:11 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Peach

I had a FUBAR with my communities electricity one time during an update of Adobe and it gave me all kinds of fits for a while. I ended up removing it and reinstalling it. Troubles I was having with it ceased after that. I don't know if that will help you out or not but it did solve my troubles.


77 posted on 12/22/2005 12:49:56 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Peach

The least that should happen is that he loses his seat on the Senate Intel Commettee

Why is he still there??

Why doesn't the Senate investigate who the leaker was??


78 posted on 12/22/2005 12:51:47 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Senator Barbara ("box of rocks") Boxer

I prefer Barb Boxcutter myself ;)
79 posted on 12/22/2005 12:51:59 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Peach
otherwise I seem to approach near-crash status.

I know the feeling. I won't touch a PDF file now.

80 posted on 12/22/2005 12:52:07 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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