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4 GOP Senators Hold Firm Against Patriot Act Renewal
Washington Post ^ | Charles Babington | Charles Babington

Posted on 12/20/2005 6:58:23 PM PST by ncountylee

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) could barely conceal his anger.

"The Patriot Act expires on December 31, but the terrorist threat does not," he told reporters at the Capitol yesterday. "Those on the Senate floor who are filibustering the Patriot Act are killing the Patriot Act."

There was just one problem. Well, four problems, actually. Four of the 46 senators using the delaying tactic to thwart the USA Patriot Act renewal are members of Frist's party. It is a pesky, irritating fact for Republicans who are eager to portray the impasse as Democratic obstructionism, and a ready-made rejoinder for Democrats expecting campaign attacks on the issue in 2006 and 2008.

The four Republican rebels -- Larry E. Craig (Idaho), Chuck Hagel (Neb.), John E. Sununu (N.H.) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) -- have joined all but two Senate Democrats in arguing that more civil liberties safeguards need to be added to the proposed renewal of the Patriot Act.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Idaho; US: Nebraska; US: New Hampshire; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; civiliberties; craig; gop; gwot; hagel; larrycraig; murkowski; nationalsecurity; obstructionistdems; patriotact; sununu; terrorism; wot
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To: muawiyah

LOL!


41 posted on 12/20/2005 7:29:07 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Rodney King

Yeah, I agree on the sunset provision. They can renew it, but I want it to sunset, so they have to renew it again.

Paranoia. I mean, Bill Clinton was president.


Twice.


42 posted on 12/20/2005 7:29:40 PM PST by eyespysomething (http://members.cox.net/transam57/lights.wmv)
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To: muawiyah

Email that to Frist, it needs to be part of the Congressional Record.


43 posted on 12/20/2005 7:31:04 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: Williams
First, the WH is long reported to be weak in working with Congress

You know, this works both ways; and these fools have been stabbing Bush in the back since he took office. All because of THEIR agendas, i.e. Hagel running for president, for one.

as well as with the press.

Try not to insult our intelligence; Bush TRIED to work with the press; see how well that's worked out?

44 posted on 12/20/2005 7:31:11 PM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: ncountylee

Doesn't matter. Pick off the 4 Republicans and you still have 42 Democrats which will be enough to kill it. But as usual. The Dinasour Media will focus all the attention of the 4 Republicans so the Democrats get NONE of the PR fall out for killing the Patriot Act.


45 posted on 12/20/2005 7:31:26 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: ncountylee

Frist should take away their offices.


46 posted on 12/20/2005 7:31:35 PM PST by zook
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To: rightazrain

I have 4 kids, each living or working in a large city.

I'm with you.


47 posted on 12/20/2005 7:32:09 PM PST by tazannie
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To: cowtowney

He isn't! YOU "think" about that!


48 posted on 12/20/2005 7:32:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ncountylee; Congressman Billybob; Howlin; hobbes1; xsmommy
Technically, THEY ARE NOT FILIBUSTERING.

They are merely, as before, THREATENING to (not stop) a filibuster - IF it ever started in the first place.

So, let them START talking - for a few months. Through the ENTIRE RECESS. Then,when we return to work in February or March. THEN, vote to stop the filibuster.
49 posted on 12/20/2005 7:32:55 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: July 4th
What crack is Hagel smoking these days?

His own crack!

50 posted on 12/20/2005 7:33:06 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: chris1

That's because "normal" citizens aren't having international calls with terrorist organizations.

They are trying to do to him what they did to Nixon. Take something that has been done by all presidents and suddenly express outrage that such things go on (I'm not excusing what Nixon did but most Presidents before him were hardball Presidents. Most people just didn't know their Presidents said the F word, spied and paid off people).

The reason there is a NSA is because it is a spy agency. That's what it does. It spies on people. Suddenly liberals and some RINOs are incredulous.


51 posted on 12/20/2005 7:33:33 PM PST by plain talk
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To: kcvl
IF the Washington Post got this quote right, and that is a big "if".......

I hope that Lisa can continue to be elected on the funds from her constituents. I will specifically tell the party that any funds I send nationally, not be used in her elections in Alaska.

" "I think the responsible thing to do at this point is to move forward with a three-month extension" of the current law. Murkowski, who inherited her seat from her father, said she has received angry phone calls and e-mails from non-Alaskans. "But I've got to listen to my constituents first," she said, and they have been "very supportive."

52 posted on 12/20/2005 7:33:53 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: ncountylee
Four of the 46 senators using the delaying tactic to thwart the USA Patriot Act renewal are members of Frist's party. It is a pesky, irritating fact for Republicans who are eager to portray the impasse as Democratic obstructionism

Hmmm... 42 Democrats, 4 Republicans. Stated another way, that's 91.3% Democrats, 8.7% Republicans. Yep, it sure is difficult to portray that as Democrat obstructionism...

53 posted on 12/20/2005 7:33:54 PM PST by Zeppo
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To: Williams
"Until this month Bush has not been selling his program or calling out his opponents. This leads other republicans to waver for various reasons....

Maybe Bush will correct this, we'll see. No excuse for the Senators, but this is the way it works. You have to either put a carrot in front of them or a good steady kick to the rear."

Bingo.

54 posted on 12/20/2005 7:34:23 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: buckeye2159
During a time of war? No!

And even Washington was "intrusive". That's how Arnold was exposed.

55 posted on 12/20/2005 7:34:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Williams
That's it. President Bush has to try working with the press. Yep, that's the ticket. After he does that, he has to start working with the President of Iran instead of trying to be difficult.
56 posted on 12/20/2005 7:34:54 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ncountylee
I think the four republican senators going against the Patriot Act need to remember that you can't say that this war on terrorism needs to be fought and at the same time go against the tools needed to win this war, and the Patriot Act is one of those tools. It needs to be renewed.
57 posted on 12/20/2005 7:34:55 PM PST by YoungCorps
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To: nralife

"You answered your own question. He IS a Conservative. Big difference these days between a Conservative and a Republican."

No, he is not acting like a conservative. He is acting like a libertarian, and coming from Idaho, this doesn't surprise me, as his constituency has that kind of bent. But he does a great disservice to his country, and this is not a conservative vote, it's a libertarian one.


58 posted on 12/20/2005 7:35:54 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: Fruitbat

Wonder how much they got paid to vote against this Patriot Act? Can we check their records or swiss bank accounts?


59 posted on 12/20/2005 7:35:59 PM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: nralife

You got it. A lot just DON'T get it.


60 posted on 12/20/2005 7:37:11 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
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