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Germany frees killer of U.S. diver
CNN ^ | 12/20/05 | Correspondent Chris Burns

Posted on 12/20/2005 7:10:50 AM PST by minus_273

BERLIN, Germany (CNN) -- A Hezbollah militant sentenced to life in Germany for murdering a U.S. Navy diver during the 1985 hijacking of a U.S. jetliner has been freed, officials said.

The German government denied on Tuesday the release was related to the freeing of a German hostage in Iraq.

Mohammed Ali Hamadi was released Thursday and allowed to return to his native Lebanon on the next day, after qualifying for parole after 19 years in prison, said Ulrich Hermanski, spokesman for the North Rhine Wesphalia state justice ministry.

"There was no special treatment," Hermanski said in a telephone interview.

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To: minus_273

This is a f-----g outrage.


61 posted on 12/20/2005 7:50:09 AM PST by Prince Charles
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To: goldstategop

From the viewpoint of the responsible German judge this release was for sure no betrayal on the US.

Hammadi was probably about more than 15 years behind bars. This is the usual timespan were killers are released in Germany. He also would have been freed if he would have killed Germans. I doubt that it has anything to do with the recent release of this woman in Iraq since Hammadi was -to my knowlege- a shiite. The hostage was a German woman that was hijacked by some sunni criminal idiots who wanted to press out money. Merkel probably paid. This is another party.

You should see the different judicial attitudes on both sides of the Atlantic. Furthermore it is nothing new that official Germany (no matter if Schroeder or Merkel is involved) doesn't feel itself engaged in the war on terror. Therefore this is simply a quite normal process. It has absolutely nothing to do with any backstabbing.

BTW - I would have disposed him quietly in the mediterranian.


62 posted on 12/20/2005 7:51:46 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: JeeperFreeper
This is total BS. The Germans did this with the Munich terrorists too, trading captives for the assurance that their planes/government wouldn't be targeted in the future. They're selling out their "allies" for terrorists.

If I recall correctly, the Chuck Norris film "Delta Force" was mostly based on the story of this hijacking.
63 posted on 12/20/2005 7:52:19 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Michael81Dus
But you know that Hammadi was in prison since 1989??

Yes, but he was not extradited to the U.S., and according to Toensing, hostages played a role in the failure to extradite. Couple that with the ugly cave-in months after Munich, and there's reason for concern.

64 posted on 12/20/2005 7:52:26 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Coop; Travis McGee

DAMN !


65 posted on 12/20/2005 7:52:29 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Prince Charles

Why? This is the regular time for murder in Germany. Actually, 19 years are two or so above the average.


66 posted on 12/20/2005 7:52:55 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Numbers Guy

According to the State of Hesse, there was no extradition request by the US.


67 posted on 12/20/2005 7:53:28 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
This is what Germany understands as Justice. Killers are usually released after 15-18 years imprisonment, so there´s really not much behind the story other than that the victim was an American.

I actually agree with you, however the timing is exremely unfortunate, and not just because it will upset many Americans, but because it will encourage many terrorists. Many of them are Arabs, and it is common in the Arab culture to try to take some victory out of any situation. They will make the connection, whether or not there is one, and this could endanger more people.

68 posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:06 AM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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To: Michael81Dus
Quite frankly, this is precisely why Americans would do well to avoid traveling to Thrid World sh!t-holes where standards of justice can be loose and (by definition) your right to keep and bear arms for self-protection is compromised.

This issue has come up a number of times in the past, most recently (I think) with regard to the PLO terrorists who seized the Achille Lauro and dumped Leon Klinghoffer overboard. The biggest problem the U.S. faces in cases like this is that these incidents usually occur outside the legal jurisdiction of the U.S., and as such our government has very limited recourse in seeking justice.

69 posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:30 AM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: minus_273

So Frau Merkel likes negotiating with terrorists.


70 posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:47 AM PST by conservative barking moonbat
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To: Squantos

I hope a recent picture of this POS just went up in all naval special warfare commmands.


71 posted on 12/20/2005 7:55:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Kozak
Hopefully, we take a page out of the Israeli play book on the Olypic massacre, and ol Mo has a sudden accident....

Or we could ask Israel for a favor. They'd probably do it for no charge.

72 posted on 12/20/2005 7:55:22 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Wristpin
I sometimes wonder if making that wall come down was a mistake. Were you on east or west side?

This is just plain stupid, sheesh.

73 posted on 12/20/2005 7:55:29 AM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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To: Michael81Dus
According to the State of Hesse, there was no extradition request by the US.

I'm talking about 1985-87, not 2005.

74 posted on 12/20/2005 7:59:43 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Paradox

Is it really that stupid? When that wall came down millions of socialists were given liberty, which they didn't earn. Thus we have the new "enlightened" Germany.


75 posted on 12/20/2005 8:00:16 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Michael81Dus
Guys, calm down. This is what Germany understands as Justice.

I believe the cause of the consternation is exactly that this is what Germany understands as Justice.

76 posted on 12/20/2005 8:00:17 AM PST by Smile-n-Win (Don't let her take things away from you on behalf of the public good!)
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To: Travis McGee

Ditto LiL Bro is back in the field......


77 posted on 12/20/2005 8:02:11 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Michael81Dus

Why? Because he should have been tried in the U.S. for capital murder, for a crime committed while aboard an American aircraft, and where he surely would have been convicted and executed. Instead, he has reaped the benefits of european enlightenment and now can resume his islamofascist killing spree. My only wish is that he hones his skills on european victims next time.


78 posted on 12/20/2005 8:02:19 AM PST by Prince Charles
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To: Numbers Guy; Michael81Dus

"This is what Germany understands as Justice. Killers are usually released after 15-18 years imprisonment, so there´s really not much behind the story other than that the victim was an American. The German government had no influence on this, nor was the release of the German hostage in Iraq an issue here.

The problem is that many of us have bitter memories of the Munich terrorists being released after a hijacking, mere months after they butchered the Israeli athletes. The precedent is there, so the incident does arouse suspicion."

The history of the Stasi after the end of the cold war is interesting. Germany spent considerable effort to capture the murderous criminals, but only put them in prison for a few years. If the shoe would have been on the other foot, the Commies would have executed the Westerners.


79 posted on 12/20/2005 8:03:02 AM PST by Western Phil
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To: Numbers Guy
es, but he was not extradited to the U.S., and according to Toensing, hostages played a role in the failure to extradite. Couple that with the ugly cave-in months after Munich, and there's reason for concern.

There would have been no chance of a extradition to the United States since in your country he would have been threatened by capital punishment. A absolute no-no which is strictly forbidden throughout Europe. Germany and other European countries do not extradite to countries where the offender could end on a scaffold. This has for sure nothing to do with hostages.

80 posted on 12/20/2005 8:04:52 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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