Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Germany frees killer of U.S. diver
CNN ^ | 12/20/05 | Correspondent Chris Burns

Posted on 12/20/2005 7:10:50 AM PST by minus_273

BERLIN, Germany (CNN) -- A Hezbollah militant sentenced to life in Germany for murdering a U.S. Navy diver during the 1985 hijacking of a U.S. jetliner has been freed, officials said.

The German government denied on Tuesday the release was related to the freeing of a German hostage in Iraq.

Mohammed Ali Hamadi was released Thursday and allowed to return to his native Lebanon on the next day, after qualifying for parole after 19 years in prison, said Ulrich Hermanski, spokesman for the North Rhine Wesphalia state justice ministry.

"There was no special treatment," Hermanski said in a telephone interview.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americahaters; appeasement; axisofappeasement; beirut; eurabia; eurotrash; flight847; germancapitulation; germany; iraq; islamofascism; lebanon; mohammedalihamadi; navy; robbiestethem; robertdeanstethem; robertstethem; stethem; twa; twa847; twaflight847; usnavy; ussstethem; wot
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 281-297 next last
To: MEG33

He will not be forgotten, nor the jihadist enemy forgiven!


161 posted on 12/20/2005 11:49:57 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 110 | View Replies]

To: minus_273
A very interesting article on (oh boy...) MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8219264/

"One of the hijackers, Mohammed Hamadei, was caught in Germany, convicted, and sentenced to life. But he could be out on parole in six months. "
June 14, 2005

Not such a surprise, after all. Is it?
162 posted on 12/20/2005 11:55:13 AM PST by flieger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Southack

Interesting take on the events involved in this hostage release. It is hard to imagine that Hezbollah is not one of the very active foreign groups operating in Iraq. Then again they may only have a minimal presence and must coordinate with al-Qaeda as to where they operate. That assumes al-Qaeda is truly the main foreign player in the game. Who knows. There are so damn many different goons squads involved one often can be hesitant to place the blame on a given group unless specifically marke out as being the culprit.


163 posted on 12/20/2005 12:26:42 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 153 | View Replies]

To: Southack

Good post, lots of meat there to chew on.


164 posted on 12/20/2005 12:27:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 153 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

Understand your point but you are wrong in this instance. 18 USC 32 makes it a federal offense to hijack an aircraft wherever the hijacking may occur. And if a death occurs, the crime is subject to the death penalty. 18 USC 34. Jurisdiction is based on the old common law theory of "universal jurisdiction that was applicable to pirates.

I understand the points you and Michael are making about the German justice system, and you have more grounds than us to be outraged since it is your system (I would be furious if a murder here was out in 15), but in this case they should have honored the extradition request rather than taken over a case which, as you acknowledge, they had no real connection to.

Also, active duty personal flying on commercial flights is a fairly common practice.


165 posted on 12/20/2005 12:29:14 PM PST by Steelerfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | View Replies]

To: ZULU
We should have carpet bombed the entire rotten Country during WW2

We did. Most cities were utterly destroyed. Dresden was incinerated and might as well have been nuked. Also bear in mind that while this bombing campaign raged on, Germany captured and kept alive nearly 20,000 American airmen who were shot down during WWII. Yes, they kept alive the very people trying to kill them and released them at the end of the war.

I can assure you their fate in Japanese hands would have been the opposite. I guess Japan now gets to keep company with the muslim terrorists on who was the most despicable and evil against our troops.

166 posted on 12/20/2005 1:06:35 PM PST by Diplomat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies]

To: Diplomat

"Also bear in mind that while this bombing campaign raged on, Germany captured and kept alive nearly 20,000 American airmen who were shot down during WWII. Yes, they kept alive the very people trying to kill them and released them at the end of the war."

So? We should credit them with doing what the Geneva convention called for? We did the same and better.
I don't think the Slavs and other "Untermenschen" would have much sympathy for your admiration of German humanitarianism - neither for that matter would such Germanic people like the Dutch and Belgians who lived under Hitler's boot.

Sure, the Germans treated the average POW better than the Japanese did.

I'm part German myself and once was proud of it. Since that scumbag Schroeder and the other socialist vermin have stabbed my Country - the U.S. - in the back so often with the scurvy French, my feelings for them are far from brotherly. But then my feelings for the Europeans in general have been very poor lately.

As for keeping comapny with Muslim terrorists - I think more Europeans are osculating Islamic butts lately than the Japanese are.


167 posted on 12/20/2005 1:12:51 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 166 | View Replies]

To: Atlantic Bridge
It was already the policy in 1987. Capital punishment is illegal by the German institution (Grundgesetz Artikel 102) since 1949. Therefore it is not possible to extradite to countries with capital punishment if the prisioner is affected

So you're saying that nobody in German custody for murder has been extradited to the United States since 1949?

168 posted on 12/20/2005 1:17:30 PM PST by Numbers Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | View Replies]

To: minus_273

I remember this one very well. I'm glad the perp is now where he can be "found". Paybacks are a b*tch.


169 posted on 12/20/2005 1:18:37 PM PST by Liberty Valance ("Can't hide Freedom's song." ~ Starwise)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: minus_273

If he's rehabilitated to the point that they freed him, why didn't Germany let him remain in their country? Oh I guess he's not all that rehabilitated.


170 posted on 12/20/2005 1:22:17 PM PST by hershey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: minus_273

Maybe we should do like Isreal and the '76 Munich murderers and hunt the bastard down and kill him!


171 posted on 12/20/2005 1:24:15 PM PST by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: July 4th

Your memory is right on. Delta Force has been playing on cable these past weeks. The fury over Stethem's torture and execution remains as strong now as the day he was murdered.


172 posted on 12/20/2005 1:27:11 PM PST by hershey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: Diplomat

Very good post, Diplomat. While allied pilots machine-gunned and strafed masses of civilians huddled by the river during the Dresden raid, trying to escape the firestorm, the Germans kept our captive pilots safe. It says something.

Also Dresden was one of the most beautiful cities in Europe, so besides attacking it being a war crime and crime against the German people, it was also a crime against our own Western Civilization and against ourselves.


173 posted on 12/20/2005 1:28:19 PM PST by Lessingham (Robert Aickman and Russell Kirk: The Best Ghost Story Writers Were On the Political Right)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 166 | View Replies]

To: LSUfan
Here's what I sent the Embassy...

German Embassy Staff:

I am disgusted that Germany has released the killer of Robert Stethem. I am almost quite literally at a loss for words... except to say that this was an unfriendly act. With any luck your new head of government will reverse Germany's slide into French-style collaboration with those who want ALL of us in the West, dead...

Disgusting.

Regards,

Robert Teesdale, President
Magonaga Industries, Inc.
www.magonaga.com

174 posted on 12/20/2005 1:28:36 PM PST by Robert Teesdale
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: ZULU

You might try focus on opposing our real enemies and get away from your misguided antipathy toward our fellow Westerners. Hate-mongering directed towards the Germans and French is very unappealing to almost all Americans, or perhaps I should say real Americans. It certainly isn't very pretty, and I can't imagine it helps our image with anyone. You certainly don't speak for me, and I think you are being, in the posts on this thread anyway, about as helpful as Jane Fonda during the Vietnam War.


175 posted on 12/20/2005 1:37:57 PM PST by Lessingham (Robert Aickman and Russell Kirk: The Best Ghost Story Writers Were On the Political Right)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 151 | View Replies]

To: Robert Teesdale

Good job.

The Germans should face their wretchedness.


176 posted on 12/20/2005 1:42:26 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vicente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 174 | View Replies]

To: Lessingham

You are entitled to your own opinion. So am I.

And I doubt very much that the average American has anymore love for the western Europeans at this moment than I do - the thinking ones anyway.

Nor do I particularly appreciate the absurb analogy between my opinions on the subject and Jane Fonda and Viet Nam.

But, like I said, that's your opinion.


177 posted on 12/20/2005 1:49:28 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 175 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

Well, they didn't murder our pilots who massacred hundreds of thousands of their civlians, on the other hand.

Speaking of murder, an allied blockade at the end of the First World War resulted in widespread starvation in Germany, something that the British didn't seem all that upset about.




178 posted on 12/20/2005 1:52:13 PM PST by Lessingham (Robert Aickman and Russell Kirk: The Best Ghost Story Writers Were On the Political Right)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 148 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy; Michael81Dus
Thank you for your post. I hope that is the case, but I have little trust anymore in countries who let terrorists go free. And I still want to see Mugniyah brought to justice for the murder of USN Diver Robert Stethem.



Have you Thanked a Soldier today?
Thank a Soldier Week is December 19th to December 25th!

179 posted on 12/20/2005 1:56:18 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | View Replies]

To: Numbers Guy
So you're saying that nobody in German custody for murder has been extradited to the United States since 1949?

I am not sure about the 50ties and 60ties (Germany was still occupied then and not really free in all its decisions), but since the reintroduction of capital punishment in 1977 (on federal level) for sure nobody except there is a binding assurance that the prisioner is not being executed. For that reason you would not even get Bin Laden the legal way out of Germany.

180 posted on 12/20/2005 1:58:40 PM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 168 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 281-297 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson