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Germany frees killer of U.S. diver
CNN ^ | 12/20/05 | Correspondent Chris Burns

Posted on 12/20/2005 7:10:50 AM PST by minus_273

BERLIN, Germany (CNN) -- A Hezbollah militant sentenced to life in Germany for murdering a U.S. Navy diver during the 1985 hijacking of a U.S. jetliner has been freed, officials said.

The German government denied on Tuesday the release was related to the freeing of a German hostage in Iraq.

Mohammed Ali Hamadi was released Thursday and allowed to return to his native Lebanon on the next day, after qualifying for parole after 19 years in prison, said Ulrich Hermanski, spokesman for the North Rhine Wesphalia state justice ministry.

"There was no special treatment," Hermanski said in a telephone interview.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: SJackson

I still don't understand what legal angle the U.S. would have used to get this guy extradited from Germany.


121 posted on 12/20/2005 9:22:55 AM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: thoughtomator
Time to nuke Germany back to reality.

Bush should recall our Ambassador and enforce sanctions against German imports starting today.

122 posted on 12/20/2005 9:24:00 AM PST by montag813
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To: ElkGroveDan
We need to send our spooks in to get this animal.

A SEAL team would be much more appropriate, not to mention much more effective.

123 posted on 12/20/2005 9:24:54 AM PST by El Gato
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To: Numbers Guy
That is current policy. It was not the policy in 1987, when the extradition issue came up.

It was already the policy in 1987. Capital punishment is illegal by the German institution (Grundgesetz Artikel 102) since 1949. Therefore it is not possible to extradite to countries with capital punishment if the prisioner is affected. This was clearly the case with Hamadi.

124 posted on 12/20/2005 9:27:10 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Michael81Dus

Sorry, Michael, but the only thing this animal should have been doing since 1989 is taking a dirt nap!


125 posted on 12/20/2005 9:28:16 AM PST by ssaftler (Politically Correct isn't! Progressives aren't!)
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To: HamiltonJay

My guess is that they readily agreed to cough up the guy...to get their hostage released. I also bet they gave the exact position of the guy upon release to the CIA...and he will be seized within 48 hours. The US, as far as I know...never gave up its right to prosecute the guy. So he's another candidate for Guantanamo. And he deserves every bit of torture that they dish out there.


126 posted on 12/20/2005 9:30:42 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Numbers Guy; Atlantic Bridge; Michael81Dus; Wristpin; minus_273
German court acquits 9/11 suspect

‘snip’

The judge, as part of his summing up, said he realised that the verdict may be received with bitterness, as a setback in the so-called war on terror, but the court had to follow legal procedures.

Mr Schulz said it showed that it was impossible to get a fair trial of a terrorist case in Germany.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3460875.stm

127 posted on 12/20/2005 9:34:55 AM PST by dervish (no excuses)
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To: Coop
Thanks for the article. I often think about Robert Stethem's horrible,brutal death and get shaken.

Knowing that there are men who are capable of inflicting such cold blooded,barbaric,vicious cruelty against a defenseless human being is terrifying.

Robert looked like every mother's favorite child,to remember how he was beaten and thrown out on the tarmac like a broken doll was more than heart wrenching.

Some who have signed on to this latest "no torture" bill should look at that picture too. While I would never advocate for any hands on physical abuse,I see nothing wrong with turning off the heat in winter and the air conditioning in the summer and permitting other discomforts in order to obtain available information from those who are thought to have it. God help us all,and quickly I pray.

128 posted on 12/20/2005 9:39:55 AM PST by saradippity
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To: minus_273

CATCH HIM, KILL HIM...simple really


129 posted on 12/20/2005 9:43:03 AM PST by Jim Verdolini (We had it all, but the RINOs stalked the land and everything they touched was as dung and ashes!)
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To: minus_273

This is sickening.


130 posted on 12/20/2005 10:12:32 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Jim Verdolini

Get right on it


131 posted on 12/20/2005 10:12:34 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: All

http://www.stethem.navy.mil/


132 posted on 12/20/2005 10:13:36 AM PST by omega4179 (Seal the borders.)
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To: steveegg
Next question; Israel, Iraq, or elsewhere?

Wherever the lust for American blood ultimately takes this pig. Islamic terrorists are like child molesters--they cannot be cured and recividism is extremely high after release from prison. If he doesn't kill again, it will be because someone killed him first. Which would be a step in the right direction.

133 posted on 12/20/2005 10:30:08 AM PST by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: minus_273

"There was no special treatment," Hermanski said in a telephone interview.


Hermanski continued --"Indeed, not special treatment at all. We let go everyone in prison who has killed an american. In fact, if we find others in prison who have killed americans, we will let those go too. Our goal is to release anyone that has ever done anything to hurt Americans, Americans, and anything made in America. We do this because we know the Americans are too weary from Iraq, and we have decided to forget everything America has done for us. My goodness, let's get that albatross off our necks. WOO WOO, MR. ONLY SUPERPOWER LEFT! I mean, look at N. Korea and Iran, getting nukes and nobody cares. Why should be act like we care about Americans?" (what he was really saying for Germany.)


134 posted on 12/20/2005 10:38:25 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("We've run out of ballots." -- Iraqi election official)
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To: ariamne
If he doesn't kill again, it will be because someone killed him first. Which would be a step in the right direction.

Since we're not in the business of wet work, one can only hope that someone gives him a dirt nap post haste.

135 posted on 12/20/2005 10:41:40 AM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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To: Alberta's Child
I still don't understand what legal angle the U.S. would have used to get this guy extradited from Germany.

In 1987 it was clear, he killed an American, we claim jurisdiction over that crime. Today, to my knowledge double jeopardy doesn't apply, our legal system doesn't consider a foreign conviction a bar to US prosecution for the same crime. Maybe someone with more specific legal knowledge can confirm that.

136 posted on 12/20/2005 10:43:05 AM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: Squantos
Damn.

I agree.
Here's another article about the Stethem incident, and one of the top terrorist psychopaths: Lebanese Madman
137 posted on 12/20/2005 10:44:54 AM PST by CIApilot
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To: SJackson
As a matter of course the U.S. does not have -- nor does it even seek -- the authroity to prosecute crimes committed against U.S. citizens in foreign countries. Traveling on a U.S. passport does not provide you with the full backing of the U.S. government to prosecute any crimes that may be committed against you.

There is an angle to this story that probably would have bothered the hell out of me at the time, though. From what I've read, Stethem was apparently on active duty and was traveling back to the U.S. on leave or for re-assignment. It would seem to me that having active soldiers flying on commercial airlines like this -- particularly through an airport in Athens that was notorious for its lax airline security -- would represent a serious risk. Was this point even discussed at the time?

138 posted on 12/20/2005 10:49:54 AM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: ariamne; steveegg; All

recidivism, sorry!


139 posted on 12/20/2005 10:50:49 AM PST by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: Kozak
Hopefully, we take a page out of the Israeli play book on the Olypic massacre, and ol Mo has a sudden accident....

Not if John McCain and his fellow Democrats have their way.

140 posted on 12/20/2005 10:51:07 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (De gustibus non est disputandum.)
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