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Border Patrol fears conflict with Mexican Military
World Net Daily ^ | December 19, 2005 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 12/19/2005 10:01:28 AM PST by thorshammer

Border Patrol fears conflict with Mexican military Agent: 'It's like we're having a battle … that no one speaks of'

Posted: December 19, 2005 12:42 p.m. Eastern

By Jon Dougherty © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Border Patrol agents stationed along the nation's southwestern frontier increasingly are fearful of encountering armed and potentially hostile military units from Mexico.

Also, agents say, officers are hamstrung in their response, citing concerns the U.S. government is often too deferential to Mexican authorities.

"It's like we're having a battle on the border that no one speaks of," one agent told the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin newspaper in Ontario, Calif.

"The Border Patrol lives in constant fear of pleasing the consulate general of Mexico," the agent continued. "It's one of the things that's most mystifying to line agents" because the U.S. is one of the most powerful countries in the world but appears to be more interested in accommodating Mexico City, the agent said.

Indeed, the confrontations have become so routine the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has issued written orders that agents carry with them regarding "what to do" if confronted by Mexican military units, many of which are in the employ of Mexico's powerful drug cartels.

According to the "Military Incursion" cards, "Mexican military are trained to escape, evade and counter-ambush if it will affect their escape." Therefore, the card says, Border Patrol agents should follow recommended procedures in case they encounter armed Mexican military units.

The paper said the cards also instruct agents to hide from Mexican military operating in their areas. Rather than engage in contact, agents are ordered to "Avoid it."

One Arizona agent described the units to the paper, saying they "are active Mexican military that have sold out to the cartels."

"We talk about cooperation with the Mexican government," the agent continued, "but most of them seem to be on the take. The [Bush] administration, the DHS, they are very hushed about this."

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., head of the House Immigration Reform Caucus, told WorldNetDaily in a 2002 interview he was concerned about a rising number of incursions occurring along the U.S. southwest border.

Noting that elements of the Mexican military were posing a threat to American agents and civilians along the border, he said, "We're no safer today than we were on Sept. 12," in reference to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

Tancredo said he began making trips to the border because he became alarmed over increasing reports that border personnel were being shot at on a regular basis, as well as chased and targeted by "rogue elements" of the Mexican military. He said such units either were loyal to Mexican-based drug lords or operating outside the scope of their military mandate.

WND has reported that as early as November 2000, Mexican troops had fired on U.S. Border Patrol agents on American soil.

U.S. authorities also have known for some time that elements of Mexican military and law enforcement units have been corrupted by drug cartels.

"In actuality, law enforcement in Mexico is all too often part of the problem rather than part of the solution," Anthony Placido, the Drug Enforcement Administration's acting assistant administrator for intelligence, told a House panel earlier this year. "This is particularly true at the municipal and state levels of government."


TOPICS: Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borderpatrol; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; conflict; duck; iffiredupon; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; mexico; namericancommunity; openborders; surrendertomexico
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Run and Hide - That is our response?
1 posted on 12/19/2005 10:01:30 AM PST by thorshammer
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster


2 posted on 12/19/2005 10:06:17 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: thorshammer
"Run and Hide - That is our response?"

Let one Mexican military soldier shoot a US Border Patrol agent and I'll be screaming at the top of my lungs to everyone who answers the phone at every line for the White House and Congress to march the 4th ID into Mexico City. I hope everyone here will join me in that persuit if that's what it comes down to. This absolutely sickens me.
3 posted on 12/19/2005 10:07:14 AM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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Run and Hide - That is our response?

What are we now....the FRENCH?

4 posted on 12/19/2005 10:07:31 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: thorshammer

Seems we do need some muscle on the border after all...


5 posted on 12/19/2005 10:08:11 AM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel)
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To: thorshammer

Send ATF down there to prosecute those illegal imports of NFA weapons. They need something to do and it is right up their alley. Kinda like spy vs spy.


6 posted on 12/19/2005 10:08:11 AM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: thorshammer; ohioWfan
Here is the ping you've requested regarding discussing the border issue.
7 posted on 12/19/2005 10:08:25 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: thorshammer

SHOOT BACK! With intent!


8 posted on 12/19/2005 10:08:44 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: NJ_gent

Any conflict with Mexican troops would be a severe blow to US relations. I doubt the Mexicans would let it happen.


9 posted on 12/19/2005 10:09:01 AM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: thorshammer

We should not fear engaging the Mexican Army at the border - we should look forward to it. Give us an excuse to sweep into that country, occupy it, and take over their oil reserves. And while we are at it, do a little nation-building, including teaching ENGLISH at all levels, and reforming the government to conform to a truly representative republic based on constitutional priciples and regular relatively fraud-free elections.

Then we might even annex the whole country to the US, once all these other objectives are accopmlished.


10 posted on 12/19/2005 10:09:02 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


11 posted on 12/19/2005 10:09:38 AM PST by gubamyster
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Noting that elements of the Mexican military were posing a threat to American agents and civilians along the border, he said, "We're no safer today than we were on Sept. 12," in reference to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

BINGO! Border security and immigration enforcement are President Bush's two biggest leadership failures.

12 posted on 12/19/2005 10:11:21 AM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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Indeed, the confrontations have become so routine the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has issued written orders that agents carry with them regarding "what to do" if confronted by Mexican military units

Everyone remember this story the next time you are at the airport.

13 posted on 12/19/2005 10:12:02 AM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: NJ_gent
I posted on another thread about how GWB's address last night rings hollow when you take in consideration his apathy on the U.S. Borders. Bushbots were not happy as they belief Bush is beyond reproach.
14 posted on 12/19/2005 10:12:05 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: zip

ping


15 posted on 12/19/2005 10:12:08 AM PST by Mrs Zip
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

"SHOOT BACK! With intent!'

Give me a break - GW and the RINOs would be asking for the execution of any border patrol agent who might defend himself. GW has no respect from me after calling our citizens "vigilantes". GW is a sell out and two faced backstabber who claims he cares about Americans and our security while allowing rapists, murderers, drug dealers and terrorists to walk into our country scott free only to artificially deflate wages for working americans and help big business.


16 posted on 12/19/2005 10:12:25 AM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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To: Wiseghy
"Any conflict with Mexican troops would be a severe blow to US relations. I doubt the Mexicans would let it happen."

I'm not sure if you were listening, but a lot of the Mexican military is on the take with the local drug cartels. If the cartel says no one touches their drugs, you can bet those soldiers (many of whom have been trained by the US military to fight the drug cartels) will do whatever's necessary to carry out their other employers' wishes.
17 posted on 12/19/2005 10:13:59 AM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: Mulch

"Bushbots were not happy as they belief Bush is beyond reproach."

Be careful all of the moderators of these boards are bushbots and if you say anything critical of GW you may get banned as I have. I am hardcore conservative - review my previous posts, but if you dont follow the RINO line you find that you not welcomed.


18 posted on 12/19/2005 10:14:34 AM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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To: alloysteel

We could've had it already, when we took what's now the American southwest.




19 posted on 12/19/2005 10:14:57 AM PST by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: NJ_gent

I will be with you!!!!!!


20 posted on 12/19/2005 10:15:59 AM PST by GregB (My Kingdom for a Republican Politician with b@##s!!!!!)
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