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Run and Hide - That is our response?
1 posted on 12/19/2005 10:01:30 AM PST by thorshammer
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2 posted on 12/19/2005 10:06:17 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: thorshammer
"Run and Hide - That is our response?"

Let one Mexican military soldier shoot a US Border Patrol agent and I'll be screaming at the top of my lungs to everyone who answers the phone at every line for the White House and Congress to march the 4th ID into Mexico City. I hope everyone here will join me in that persuit if that's what it comes down to. This absolutely sickens me.
3 posted on 12/19/2005 10:07:14 AM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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Run and Hide - That is our response?

What are we now....the FRENCH?

4 posted on 12/19/2005 10:07:31 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: thorshammer

Seems we do need some muscle on the border after all...


5 posted on 12/19/2005 10:08:11 AM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel)
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To: thorshammer

Send ATF down there to prosecute those illegal imports of NFA weapons. They need something to do and it is right up their alley. Kinda like spy vs spy.


6 posted on 12/19/2005 10:08:11 AM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: thorshammer; ohioWfan
Here is the ping you've requested regarding discussing the border issue.
7 posted on 12/19/2005 10:08:25 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: thorshammer

SHOOT BACK! With intent!


8 posted on 12/19/2005 10:08:44 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: thorshammer

We should not fear engaging the Mexican Army at the border - we should look forward to it. Give us an excuse to sweep into that country, occupy it, and take over their oil reserves. And while we are at it, do a little nation-building, including teaching ENGLISH at all levels, and reforming the government to conform to a truly representative republic based on constitutional priciples and regular relatively fraud-free elections.

Then we might even annex the whole country to the US, once all these other objectives are accopmlished.


10 posted on 12/19/2005 10:09:02 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


11 posted on 12/19/2005 10:09:38 AM PST by gubamyster
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Noting that elements of the Mexican military were posing a threat to American agents and civilians along the border, he said, "We're no safer today than we were on Sept. 12," in reference to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

BINGO! Border security and immigration enforcement are President Bush's two biggest leadership failures.

12 posted on 12/19/2005 10:11:21 AM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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Indeed, the confrontations have become so routine the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has issued written orders that agents carry with them regarding "what to do" if confronted by Mexican military units

Everyone remember this story the next time you are at the airport.

13 posted on 12/19/2005 10:12:02 AM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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ping


15 posted on 12/19/2005 10:12:08 AM PST by Mrs Zip
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To: thorshammer

Makes me want to puke!


23 posted on 12/19/2005 10:21:19 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: thorshammer

Our hammering on our lazy misrepresentatives is finally making some dents. If I don't hear presidential candidates debating the paint color of the new massive border wall in 2008, I may just stay home on voting day.


24 posted on 12/19/2005 10:25:28 AM PST by AmericanChef
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This is easy. If the Mexican Patrol crosses the border, we destroy them. I f any one else crosses the border we say,"Parada! O dispararé", then shoot them dead. No more Mr. Nice guys.
25 posted on 12/19/2005 10:31:10 AM PST by SteveSpeaking
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A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter."

"Community" means integrating the United States with the corruption, socialism, poverty and population of Mexico and Canada. "Common perimeter" means wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

"Community" is sometimes called "space" but the CFR goal is clear: "a common economic space ... for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." The CFR's "integrated" strategy calls for "a more open border for the movement of goods and people."

The CFR document lays "the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America." The "common security perimeter" will require us to "harmonize visa and asylum regulations" with Mexico and Canada, "harmonize entry screening," and "fully share data about the exit and entry of foreign nationals."

This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details.

It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet "vigilantes" on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona.

A follow-up meeting was held in Ottawa on June 27, where the U.S. representative, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, told a news conference that "we want to facilitate the flow of traffic across our borders." The White House issued a statement that the Ottawa report "represents an important first step in achieving the goals of the Security and Prosperity Partnership."

The CFR document calls for creating a "North American preference" so that employers can recruit low-paid workers from anywhere in North America. No longer will illegal aliens have to be smuggled across the border; employers can openly recruit foreigners willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages.

Just to make sure that bringing cheap labor from Mexico is an essential part of the plan, the CFR document calls for "a seamless North American market" and for "the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico."

The document's frequent references to "security" are just a cover for the real objectives. The document's "security cooperation" includes the registration of ballistics and explosives, while Canada specifically refused to cooperate with our Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI).

To no one's surprise, the CFR plan calls for massive U.S. foreign aid to the other countries. The burden on the U.S. taxpayers will include so-called "multilateral development" from the World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank, "long-term loans in pesos," and a North American Investment Fund to send U.S. private capital to Mexico.

The experience of the European Union and the World Trade Organization makes it clear that a common market requires a court system, so the CFR document calls for "a permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution." Get ready for decisions from non-American judges who make up their rules ad hoc and probably hate the United States anyway.

The CFR document calls for allowing Mexican trucks "unlimited access" to the United States, including the hauling of local loads between U.S. cities. The CFR document calls for adopting a "tested once" principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards.

The CFR document demands that we implement "the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico." That's code language for putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system.

Here's another handout included in the plan. U.S. taxpayers are supposed to create a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges.

To ensure that the U.S. government carries out this plan so that it is "achievable" within five years, the CFR calls for supervision by a North American Advisory Council of "eminent persons from outside government . . . along the lines of the Bilderberg" conferences.

The best known Americans who participated in the CFR Task Force that wrote this document are former Massachusetts Governor William Weld and Bill Clinton's immigration chief Doris Meissner. Another participant, American University Professor Robert Pastor, presented the CFR plan at a friendly hearing of Senator Richard Lugar's Foreign Relations Committee on June 9.

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html


26 posted on 12/19/2005 10:33:22 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The dreams of the sheeple are deep and peaceful.)
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The paper said the cards also instruct agents to hide from Mexican military operating in their areas. Rather than engage in contact, agents are ordered to "Avoid it."

If Syrian army units were crossing into Iraq our military would be quickly dispatched to destroy them and teach Syria a lesson.

Why is our government less interested in guarding our own border than the Iraqi border?

27 posted on 12/19/2005 10:36:32 AM PST by KarlInOhio (What is the most obscene gesture to a Democrat? An Iraqi voter showing him a stained finger.)
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To: thorshammer

Geeezzz....somethin' had better be done over mex mil and our border guards. Maybe this is why we're not putting our military on the border? Lots of mex mil would be dead, fast.


29 posted on 12/19/2005 10:39:19 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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M1A1
30 posted on 12/19/2005 10:44:45 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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>>>"The Border Patrol lives in constant fear of pleasing the consulate general of Mexico," the agent continued. "It's one of the things that's most mystifying to line agents" because the U.S. is one of the most powerful countries in the world but appears to be more interested in accommodating Mexico City, the agent said.>>>

Thanks Bush.


40 posted on 12/19/2005 11:13:03 AM PST by sandbar
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