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Border Patrol fears conflict with Mexican Military
World Net Daily ^ | December 19, 2005 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 12/19/2005 10:01:28 AM PST by thorshammer

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To: thorshammer

Our military should be protecting our borders, not those of other countries, and help stop the invasion that has been going on far too long.


41 posted on 12/19/2005 11:13:20 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Borax Queen; Czar; Itzlzha
agents say, officers are hamstrung in their response, citing concerns the U.S. government is often too deferential to Mexican authorities.

"It's like we're having a battle on the border that no one speaks of," one agent told the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin newspaper in Ontario, Calif.

"The Border Patrol lives in constant fear of pleasing the consulate general of Mexico," the agent continued. "It's one of the things that's most mystifying to line agents" because the U.S. is one of the most powerful countries in the world but appears to be more interested in accommodating Mexico City, the agent said.

Ping!

42 posted on 12/19/2005 11:15:14 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; Czar; Itzlzha

BLECH


43 posted on 12/19/2005 11:17:40 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Wiseghy

Did you not read the article?
>>"One Arizona agent described the units to the paper, saying they "are active Mexican military that have sold out to the cartels."

"We talk about cooperation with the Mexican government," the agent continued, "but most of them seem to be on the take. The [Bush] administration, the DHS, they are very hushed about this."<<

The Bush administration protects, as has every other administration, the drug sources for America. BS You say. The illegal drug trade provides Mexico with more US dollars than all other industries combined. Oil, travel, manufacturing industry and even the dollars sent back by the illegals.

Afghanistan provides the US with our supply of opium/heroin. You would think that with American military forces crawling all over the country the trade would decrease. Nope, it has increased opium tonnage trade since we got there.

Don't kid yourself, this is one of those subjects that, well it's just not polite to discuss in public because it has so many trails leading back to our corrupt bureaucrats, badge carrying officials and politicians.

Drugs must be kept available and at a price the users can afford if we expect to maintain a more or less civil society. Some people go for the bottle or the can of beer the moment they walk in the door after work, others go for their style of relaxer, illegal drugs.


44 posted on 12/19/2005 11:26:01 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: thorshammer

Sounds like a job for Blackjack Pershing.


45 posted on 12/19/2005 11:27:14 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: NJ_gent

That would be an act of war on their part and no patriotic American should stand for it.


46 posted on 12/19/2005 11:27:52 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


47 posted on 12/19/2005 11:27:55 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

counter ambush that!


48 posted on 12/19/2005 11:37:15 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Travis McGee

Whoa! Dubya's got a real truck load!

Couldn't he offload a few into the SS vehicles?


49 posted on 12/19/2005 11:39:37 AM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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To: B4Ranch

Ever notice increased drug trade follows U.S. military inolvement 9 out 10 times? Vietnam, Haiti, Panama, Nicaragua, Afghanistan...


50 posted on 12/19/2005 11:41:58 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Edgerunner

Oh, hell yes. It isn't just a bunch of dirty guys in jeans and t-shirts anymore, it's a fullblown battle royale down there and we can't frickin' get anyone to take it seriously. Makes you wonder just who is on the take, and who's blackmailing who. That's about the only thing we're left with.


51 posted on 12/19/2005 11:44:43 AM PST by ichabod1 (Sic Omnia Gloria Fugit)
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To: thorshammer

Correspondence: Honorable Tom Tancredo,

Thank you immeasurably for your voice in Washington on behalf of those of us who are appalled at the illegal alien crisis. While there are many who claim we simply can't afford a "continuous linear border barrier", let me bring to mind a few points of which I'm sure you are already aware.

Mexico and Central/South America account for as much as 70% of the illegal drugs coming into these United States. All those drug sales mean that large amounts of cash accumulate in stash houses and collection points around the country. Those, many times, are well guarded by those willing to kill to protect their "industry".

For the multi-billion dollar narcotics business - like any commodities business -- it is essential that the suppliers and transporters be paid. That means the money must make its way south, and the traffickers, aided by specialists in money laundering, have devised myriad methods to insure the efficient and safe delivery of their profits. That safe delivery is made without apprehensions of murder, should anyone dare complicate the flow of funds. Estimates on how much money is sent south each year range from $10 to 30 billion. For Mexican traffickers along the Southwest border, the money is literally driven across the border in bulk amounts and then deposited into Mexican banks.

America's best angle to interrupt that flow of drugs and money is with a border barrier structure that increases the difficulty of that movement without observation. It is estimated that if the US invests as much in a barrier for the 2000 mile stretch as we invest in a four-lane highway (approx $13 million/mile), our costs to taxpayers would still only amount to about half of the annual trade in illegal drugs - roughly $26 billion. That is an investment with exponentially compounded savings to be realized each year from the aid to enforcement of our immigration code.

Not only can we find the way to deter criminal border entries, but deterring illegal aliens and interrupting the flow of "undocumented pharmaceuticals" has benefits by far outweighing any negative implications.

Keep up the good fight and may God Bless.

Signed


52 posted on 12/19/2005 11:45:23 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: thorshammer

Como se dicé "Zimmerman Telegram"?


53 posted on 12/19/2005 11:48:58 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Chuck Cooperstein is a tool.)
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To: NJ_gent

It shouldn't have to come to that.

Bush has done a good job in Iraq.

But his actions on the Mexican border situation border on impeachable neglect and active conspiracy with a foreign power.

That U.S. Officials are acting in fear of their lives from attack by a foreing military power while the U.S. government in Washington sits idle is unconscionable.

It illustrates the degree to which American officials have been degraded through the decades from Presidents who were real men like Ronald Reagan, Eisenhower, etc.


54 posted on 12/19/2005 11:49:00 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

I agree with you entirely. I think it's a shame that the border in Iraq receives more care, attention, and protection from the United States than the US border. It'd be nice if the border state governors mobilized their National Guard units to defend the border patrol agents.


55 posted on 12/19/2005 11:52:05 AM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: DTogo
BINGO! Border security and immigration enforcement are President Bush's two biggest leadership failures.

We all remember how Clinton refused to do anything about terrorism in general, and Saddam in particular, and how it came back to bite us. I believe that George W. Bush's willful ignorance of the border situation is going to come back to bite us in a similar way. Whether he is in office when it happens, or he manages to kick the can down the road far enough so somebody else has to deal with it is anybody's guess. But I'll tell you what. It is frightening to have our elected representatives ignore us and pretend they can't hear us like this. This is like in the Great Depression, how the country wallowed in it because all the politicians did nothing but prance and pontificate and do the wrong thing. Oh, and they were busy appeasing Hitler at the time too.

56 posted on 12/19/2005 11:52:36 AM PST by ichabod1 (Sic Omnia Gloria Fugit)
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To: thorshammer
This article is infuriating. Whoever is responsible for our 'policy' down there should be fired immediately. As much as I support the President, He should get this crap straightened out now. This BS is inexcusable and an insult to every American..
57 posted on 12/19/2005 11:53:37 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: sasafras
"GW and the RINOs would be asking for the execution of any border patrol agent who might defend himself. GW has no respect from me after calling our citizens 'vigilantes'. GW is a sell out and two faced backstabber who claims he cares about Americans and our security while allowing rapists, murderers, drug dealers and terrorists to walk into our country scott free only to artificially deflate wages for working americans and help big business."

Your assertions are hard to refute.

58 posted on 12/19/2005 11:58:08 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: BubbaBobTX
Your nice neighbor is no different than any other person who supports the illegals. It is kind and compassionate to do so. You should help your neighbor, as it says in the 10 Commandments.

It is only when these kind people realize that this is costing them too much money and it is interfering with the lifestyle they had planned that their eyes open wide enough to see the facts.

When you lose your overtime to the part-timer illegals, have a breakin at the store or home and have to pay that 1st $1000 of the loss yourself, your daughter is raped or your son is cut up in a gang fight that's when compassion kinda goes out the window and reality gets a chance to settle down for some straight thinking.

If the President actually had to make a choice about getting serious with these drug cartels and the supply lines that's when people would really start complaining because the price of dope would go thru the ceiling and the local dope addicts would be committing more crimes than we even want to think about tolerating.

Theft and armed robbery would get to a level where even your granny would want training on handgun use. Mom's would be screaming for more security at school because the kids wallet was stolen or somebody snatched those expensive sneakers off her feet during lunch break. Businesses in town would shutdown when the sun went down.

No, I'm not exaggerating. We have convenience store and bank robberies committed every day by dope addicts. When they hire armed security guards the criminals would look to the unprotected civilians as their source of income.

Understanding why this isn't a polite subject to talk about yet? It would cause massive changes in society and not a dang one of them would be nice.

So don't get too upset about closing the borders. We need to do it slowly and give the drug cartels time to establish new drug trade routes, corrupt a new group of bureaucrats, badge carrying officials and politicians.
59 posted on 12/19/2005 11:58:22 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Thank goodness all of Latin America hates us or this CFR plan might have a chance.


60 posted on 12/19/2005 11:58:31 AM PST by ichabod1 (Sic Omnia Gloria Fugit)
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