Posted on 12/17/2005 4:34:42 PM PST by smoothsailing
Senator John McCain's Bill of Rights for Terrorists
Written by Jim Kouri
Saturday, December 17, 2005
"It's a done deal," said the smiling Arizona senator, John McCain, after he met with the President George W. Bush and got what he wanted: a ban on interrogation techniques he and other liberals believe are inhumane or degrading.
President Bush and Senator McCain finally agreed that CIA interrogators will possess the same legal rights as enjoyed by members of the military who are accused of breaking interrogation guidelines. Those rights say accused people can defend themselves by claiming they were obeying an order and did not know the actions were unlawful. The government also would provide counsel for accused interrogators. Advocates for the ban believe that it's better for federal judges to decide on cases involving allegations of torture or abuse.
"We've sent a message to the world that the United States is not like the terrorists," McCain said as he sat next to Bush in the Oval Office. "We have no grief for them, but what we are is a nation that upholds values and standards of behavior and treatment of all people, no matter how evil or bad they are. And I think this will help us enormously in winning the war for the hearts and minds of people throughout the world in the war on terror." And there's a bridge that connects Manhattan with Brooklyn that's for sale at a bargain price.
President Bush originally threatened a veto if this ban was included in legislation sent to the president's desk, and Vice President Dick Cheney appealed to Republican senators to give an exemption to the CIA during a meeting. Senator McCain reportedly was angry at Cheney's position, and, coincidentally, the next day saw a big story about CIA run secret prisons and torture of detainees plastered across the frontpage of the Washington Post.
Most senators' sentiments were overwhelmingly in favor of the ban, and McCain, a former Navy pilot who suffered imprisonment and torture for five and a half years at the Hanoi Hotel in Vietnam, picked up the issue as his own.
The Republican senator--who enjoys the praise of the left and the news media--and the Bush White House have been haggling for weeks over a CIA exemption, but it became increasingly clear that McCain, not the administration, had the votes in Congress.
"We have worked very closely with the senator and others to achieve that objective as well as to provide protections for those who are the front line of fighting the terrorists," Bush said.
McCain's amendment would prohibit "cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment" of anyone in US government custody, regardless of where they are held. It's been dubbed by its opponents as "The Terrorist's Bill of Rights." The amendment also calls for the procedures to be included in military field manuals and other government documents.
Intelligence and interrogation experts with whom this writer spoke, believe that promulgating policies and procedures to the world, as will be done in the coming weeks, puts Americans at risk. Part of the interrogation process is the suspect's fear of the unknown. Even U.S. police detectives acknowledge that a suspect who is unfamiliar with what interrogators can and cannot do is vulnerable to fear of the questioning process and more easily manipulated to provide key information.
"Fear of the unknown is a key component of the gentle art of interrogation and interview," says Detective Steve Rogers, who's conducted hundreds of interrogations.
"It doesn't matter whether you're interrogating a murder suspect or an international terrorist; if they're in fear of what you might do to them, you maintain the upper-hand."
Also, once terrorist organizations are able to obtain interrogation procedures and manuals from the U.S., they will have the capability to train terrorists on how to resist answering interrogators' questions.
"With all due respect to Senator John McCain, being a prisoner during a war doesn't make him an expert on interrogation. He may know about pain and torture, but what he's pushing is ill-conceived," say Sid Francis, a former New York City homicide detective, who's conducted interrogations for the NYPD and for the U.S. Marines during his over 30-year career.
"What are these guys talking about when they say degrading? Hell, wearing handcuffs after being apprehended is degrading. Wearing orange overalls in Riker's Island is degrading."
Senator McCain and other supporters of the interrogation ban provisions say they are needed to clarify current anti-torture laws considering abuses at Abu Ghraib in Iraq and allegations of misconduct by U.S. troops at the detention center at Guantanamo Bay. Of course, time after time allegations have been leveled against Gitmo military personnel, but there exists no evidence that detainees are mistreated there.
They also say that passing such legislation will help the United States repair an image they say has been tarnished by the prisoner abuse scandal. Apparently looking good to the adherents of political correctness is more important than getting information from a terrorist that could save American lives.
McCain believes these actions will strengthen his position as a viable Republican presidential candidate in 2008. He believes that getting good press from the likes of the New York Times and ABC News will carry him into the Oval Office. After all, McCain is the news media's favorite blowhard in the Republican Party. They love to call him a maverick, as if the definition of maverick is "kissing up to the news media."
Now that Senator McCain has achieved his victory on this issue, he will now set his sights on another troubling issue: extended constitutional protections to terrorists. McCain believes, for instance, that detainees being held in Gitmo should have access to U.S. federal courts and have all the protections and rights of U.S. citizens.
McCain shares a strategy with several other Republican senators to move the GOP to the so-called center. There is no center. The word centrist is a euphemism for siding with the left. And John McCain and his brand of Republicans are siding with the left on this and other issues.
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About the Writer: Jim Kouri is the vice president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police, and is a prolific writer for police and crime magazines.
Copyright © 2005 ChronWatch. All rights reserved.
This can't be for real.
Senator McCain's straight talk. There's nothing quite like it in America.
It's almost as if you need a new talk show. We'll call it RINO Talk, a show that appeals to mainstream middle Americans. Absolutely no extremists allowed.
:-)
"cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment..."
What am I missing? Isn't it "degrading" just to arrest them? Is he suggesting that we shouldn't even arrest them?
The JOHN & OPRA & ARLEN SHOW !!!
That's right. Bringing you the issues that are important to mainstream Americans. People that don't really matter: middle America, you know: the little people.
:-)
The same thing I am, I guess. Degrading is what's the word, fungible?
I can see some mooselimb complaining that having to speak through an interpreter is "degrading", it's nuts.
I sure as heck am not voting for that RINO. I gotta love a guy that tries to score points at the expense of endangering our military and our country. (sarc alert)
Think "Manchurian Candidate!"
>> Those rights say accused people can defend themselves by claiming they were obeying an order and did not know the actions were unlawful.
> This can't be for real.
The Nurnburg Defense has now been legalized??? You are right: this can't be for real.
I can just imagine what will be interpreted as "abuse" by the federal judges appointed by Carter and Clinton! Why doesn't John McCain just propose that we surrender to the terrorists and commit suicide? I know...because that's not enough to satisfy the America Haters.
If I were a terrorist I would feel quite uncomfortable if some one were to aim a gun at me. Would that be a violation of my rights to be a terrorist ?
Oh, it`s true all right. "I was just following orders of my superiors" and "I didn`t know my subordinates were doing this" is a case of one had washing the other. Happens all the time.
We've gotten so far from that, that there's not much left except catch and release.
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