Posted on 12/17/2005 6:40:17 AM PST by Kaslin
Lost in yesterday's Senate debate and eventual rejection of most of the Patriot Act was one salient fact. Since its inception, the measure has foiled at least three terrorist attacks of 9/11 proportions against the U.S. - and seven other attacks in nations of close allies around the globe.
Earlier this year, the White House detailed the chilling al Qaida plots foiled during the four years the Patriot Act was in full force - plots that would have likely proceeded undetected until their final execution, under the kind of rollback the Senate passed on Friday.
According to a CNN report in October, the list of plots foiled thanks to the Patriot Act includes:
# The West Coast Hijack Plot:
# In mid-2002 the United States disrupted a plot to use hijacked airplanes to attack targets on the West Coast of the United States. The plotters included at least one major operational planner behind the 9/11 attacks.
# The East Coast Hijack Plot:
In mid-2003 the United States and a partner disrupted a plot to use hijacked commercial airplanes to attack targets on the East Coast of the United States.
# The Jose Padilla Plot:
In May 2002 the United States disrupted a plot that involved blowing up apartment buildings in the United States. One of the alleged plotters, Jose Padilla, allegedly discussed the possibility of using a "dirty bomb" inside the United States. Bush has designated him an "enemy combatant."
# The British Urban Bombing Plot:
In mid-2004 the United States and partners disrupted a plot to bomb urban targets in Britain.
# The Heathrow Airport Hijack Plot:
In 2003 the United States and several partners disrupted a plot to attack London's Heathrow Airport using hijacked commercial airliners. The planning for this alleged attack was undertaken by a major operational figure in the 9/11 attacks.
# Another British Bombing Terror Plot:
In the spring of 2004 the United States used intelligence gathered under the Patriot Act to disrupt a plot to conduct large-scale bombings in Britain.
Four additional attack plots detailed by the White House targeted U.S. interests in the Middle East.
Now that the Patriot Act has been gutted by the Senate, however, plots like those cited above will presumably proceed to their successful completion.
I understand we've already got much of the Patriot Act legislation...this act goes after terrorist...why are we just hearing about this act...and not other legislation that's as intrusive?
You clearly don't. People are forfeiting their assets without being convicted of dealing drugs--and in fact, without any traces of drugs in their possession whatsoever. So what you mean to say is, "Don't deal drugs, forfeit your car anyway."
Agreed there.
And by the 1940s, there were a whole lot of laws on the books regarding the jews that they had no freedoms by that time, either.
This time around it's the Christians.
It's theoretically possible to conduct roving wiretaps in a manner consistent with the fourth amendment, but today they aren't. The fourth amendment requires that warrants "particularly describe the place to be searched." A roving wiretap provides a warrant that specifically permits searching "anywhere X might go." It's the fourth amendment equivalent of issuing a warrant that permits police to search any building the target enters, including neighbors' houses, business establishments, workplaces, etc.
The prevention of these are what Dingy Harry just bragged about killing. (the original story is still in the sidebar)
Hmm. When they start passing laws that Christians can't attend law school, that's when the "Patriot Act" has gone to far..
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The Man Who Predicted 9/11:
Lifetime Lifesaving Hero RICK RESCORLA, R.I.P.
http://www.RickRescorla.com
http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361
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There's an important distinction to keep in mind. German antisemitism was racist, and demanded that Jews be removed from the gene pool. Moden anti-christian sentiment is not racist, and doesn't involve killing anyone. The goal is to prevent the transmission of christian beliefs, both to between people and between generations. Preventing spread between people makes christianity stop growing; preventing inter-generational transmission makes it begin to shrink.
To accomplish that goal, it suffices to place obstacles in the way of obeying or expressing one's faith, while providing tempting alternatives with fewer obstacles. That's why the first amendment suddenly bans religious expression, but protects pornography as sacrosanct.
As for christians becoming lawyers: they can. But before receiving high court appointments, they must solemnly swear that they will leave their faith behind when they put on their robes.
Nonsense. Anyone who uses these tools for any other purpose than lawful terrorism investigation should get three meals a day, and a 6' x 10' space nicely set off by concete and steel, from the taxpayers.
Only somebody who believes DUmmie conspiracy theories about what "really happened" on Flight 93 could buy these claims.
I'm worried about the 9/11-style near-miss-attacks NOT prevented by the Patriot Act.
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