9/11-Style Attacks Foiled by Patriot Act

NewsMax ^ | December 17, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

[Kaslin]

Now that the Patriot Act has been gutted by the Senate, however, plots like those cited above will presumably proceed to their successful completion.

And who will the media blame when we have another attack? Hint not the New York Slimes and the senate

[Shalom Israel]

Just an observation, but taking away freedom is indeed an effective way to increase security--from everyone but the enforcers, at least. I'm all in favor of taking away terrorists' freedom. What troubles me is that there's no guaranteed way to take freedom away from the bad guys without taking it away from good guys as well.

[chris1]

A good start would be immediate deporation of people on overstaid visas and all illegals convicted of felony crimes.

Another thing would be to not give illegals driver licenses and ratchet up the security in that area.

That's a start.

[pleikumud]

Many of the DemoRats who want to weaken or repeal the Patriot Act have also said that we are no safer as a result of the war on terrorism. So let's see, they think we are no safer, but they want to weaken our security anyway? The DemoRats are insane with hatred of the President. They think Bush is the enemy, not the terrorists. The DemoRats are a threat to our security.

[SusaninOhio]

Is there a list of the votes cast by senators?

[Mark was here]

The Patriot Act was extended to the war on meth.

This made the act a pile of rubbish.

Come back with a bill aimed squarely at terrorist, and include a provision to bar anyone (and their supervisors) who uses the act for any other purpose, from ever receiving a cent from taxpayers. No pay check, no pension, nothing.

Nothing wrong with going after the terrorist and showing no mercy in the process.

[conservative physics]

Why didn't the President go on national televison in prime time before the vote to state these facts? and ask people to call there senators and encourage them to vote for renewal?

[joylyn]

Yes, that's true. However, nothing in life is guaranteed. There is no guaranteed way to be sure that the IRS will not use its considerable power to target and punish the politically outspoken. The remedy is to remain alert for abuses and expose them. But do we really want to deny investigators the power to know who is talking to Al Qaeda leaders abroad, who is accessing the plans to bridges and tunnels, etc?

[Shalom Israel]

A good start would be immediate deporation of people on overstaid visas and all illegals convicted of felony crimes.

That would be a very good start. And it wouldn't involve any encroachments on the bill of rights, either! We should enforce existing laws before we create lots of new (unconstitutional) ones.

[TNCMAXQ]

Good point. I would also like to know why GWB has not talked a lot more about the links between Iraq and al qaeda.

[goldstategop]

They will not blame the Democrats who voted to restore the Gorelick Wall.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[Mo1]

Now that the Patriot Act has been gutted by the Senate, however, plots like those cited above will presumably proceed to their successful completion.

The Dems are hoping for that because they think they'll get their power back

They are playing games with American lives

[JohnnyP]

Bush needs to get his message out. Maybe have Rush write the script.

Clinton (ugh) had a daily photo op and a message. The media and "the American people" lapped it up. Didn't matter that it was all bogus. It looked like he was the President, and that's all that mattered to them.

[ark_girl]

It would simplify my votes for teh next couple of senators up for re-election.

I'm ashamed to admit, I abstained from voting for my senator last time because the democrat was a moderate and the republican was a moron.

Never again....I don't care if Daffy Duck is the republican candidate. If my senator is just going to follow the marching orders of Howard Dean or whoever the heck they're following, we're better off with Daffy.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

The White House botched this like so many other deals that could easily have been turned to the president's advantage.

[combat_boots]

Note to self: Three that we know of have been stopped. Now that we hamstring efforts, this means that the next one, which could well occur under Bush's watch thanks to this, will be blamed on Bush, when in fact it will be because of the Democratic strategy.

[PiccoloPete]

The Democrats main objective is to not only oppose the President, but to weaken him. Anything President Bush proposes is criticized and downgraded by the party of NO (Democrats). The President has the safety and success of the nation as his priority, while the Democrats only goal is to concentrate on how to regain power. They will stop at nothing.

[Antoninus II]

I would deport ALL middle eastern immigrants that aren't citizens and ban immigration from those countries....

[highlander_UW]

Perhaps a compromise can be worked out. Perhaps they can extend the patriot act for red states and let it expire for the blue states...then we will have side by side examples of rather it's a good thing or a bad thing. If there are no terrorist attacks in blue states then the patriot act was not needed...if blue states get attacked then they are simply facing the consequences of choosing defeatocrats as representatives.

[pleikumud]

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00358