Pawlenty immigration report ignites firestorm(illegals angry/dims angrier)

Pioneer Press ^ | 12-15-05 | Bill Salisbury

[Rakkasan1]

Gov. Tim Pawlenty's controversial report on the cost of illegal immigration apparently has created an emerging political storm that will play out in the 2006 legislative session and next year's elections. The report, which estimates undocumented immigrants and their children cost Minnesota taxpayers about $175 million a year for state services, may have roused a "sleeping giant" in immigrant communities that have been politically apathetic until now. Pawlenty told a group of police chiefs Thursday that illegal immigration is a large and growing problem that will be at the top of his public safety agenda in the coming legislative session. Meanwhile, Democrats accused the Republican governor of using illegal immigration as a wedge issue to "fire up his base" of social conservatives.

[Rakkasan1]

try bugmenot.com tor read without registration.

God forbid we know how much illegals cost us.

[CheyennePress]

"I feel like they're denying me an opportunity to get an education and show the world what I can do," Rodriguez said."

And if your American-born buddy steals a car, whatdaya wanna bet we'll deny him, too?

[tkathy]

I suspect they cost far more than that. Many of them send most of their money home, thus hurting the economy and job market in many subtle ways.

[Rakkasan1]

[jiggyboy]

I got it ok.

I lost track of how many times the apologists used "immigrant" instead of "illegal immigrant". Their standard lie of course. Speechwriters should put a pre-emptive strike in the text: "There will be those who will attack me. But they will make no distinction between legal and illegal immigration, and that is truly repellent..."

[Sterco]

"I feel like they're denying me an opportunity to get an education and show the world what I can do," Rodriguez said."

We aren't denying you anything Rodriguez. Take your problem up with Vincente he is in charge of your problems. We are not going to take on Mexicos responsibilites much longer.

[AuH2ORepublican]

Yet another reason why I think Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty is the GOP's ideal presidential candidate in 2008. His stance against illegal immigration will help us win Arizona and New Mexico, and of course he'd be our strongest candidate in Minnesota and Wisconsin (both of which were narrowly carried by Gore and Kerry) and probably Iowa as well (which was decided by less than 1% in each of 2000 and 2004). Plus, Pawlenty's appeal to blue-collar conservatives will help us hold Ohio, Arkansas, Missouri and West Virginia and win Michigan and Pennsylvania. I think Tim Pawlenty would have the easiest road to 270 electoral votes of any of the potential GOP presidential candidates for 2008.

[Coop]

I'm still holding out for a Chaffee/Snowe ticket.

[NeoCaveman]

Yet another reason why I think Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty is the GOP's ideal presidential candidate in 2008.

A two term governor, provided he wins re-election in 2006, and a very likeable guy. I love to seem Tim run all over Mitt Romney and the rest of the RINO's.

If Mike Pence won't run, I'm inclined to back Pawlenty.

[Rakkasan1]

One big problem is the use of false Social Security cards, birth certificates and driver's licenses to defraud health-care providers and deceive police, he said. why not build a real one dollar bill into each birth certificate? copy one of those and get slapped with a federal crime worth deportation.(not that being here illegally in the 1st place shouldn't be a deportable offense)

[Rakkasan1]

...plus he's a decent hockey player for a guy his age.he could check Romney or Gulliani into the boards.

[USS Alaska]

"I'm still holding out for a Chaffee/Snowe ticket."

If they were on the pubbie side and Liberman and the cloven footed one on the other would you:

1) vote pubbie

2) vote demonRAT

3) leave for mexico

4) become part of the Second Revolution, as Thomas Jefferson said,"From time to time the Tree of Liberty, needs to be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots".

[Coop]

I'd likely vote for Lieberman. Not sure who the cloven-footed one is. :-)

[tkathy]

No matter how you cut it, we have to have a swipe card (that brings up a photo id) in a national database.

[Mr. Jeeves]

The report, which estimates undocumented immigrants and their children cost Minnesota taxpayers about $175 million a year for state services, may have roused a "sleeping giant" in immigrant communities that have been politically apathetic until now.

Nah. Aside from a few loud-mouthed activists, the (illegal) immigrant communities know to keep a low profile or get deported.

[DumpsterDiver]

ping

[WorkingClassFilth]

It is crucial that this report and the resultant policies be cast in the light of legal vs. illegal immigration status. In that way, legals will be pitted against illegals as competitors for the same status, benefits and dollars. The necessary division in ethnic communities must be faulted on the lines of legal status.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"I'm still holding out for a Chaffee/Snowe ticket."

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Nah, that won't work---not enough "geographic balance." The RINOs would have to add a Midwesterner to their ticket, such as Jim Leach or Mark Kirk. That's it, I've got their ticket: Snowe-Leach. The name sounds like an invertebrate that sucks the blood from people who are shoveling their driveway, which describes RINOs to a tee.

[Itzlzha]

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[traviskicks]

This is the first I've heard of the guy. He may be an electoral winner, but I personally would not support him.

The 'problem' of immigrants using resources is only a problem because of existing socialism. It is a 'secondary problem of socialism':

http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm