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Iran's Armageddon by Charles Krauthammer
Washington Post Writers Group ^ | December 16, 2005 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 12/15/2005 9:13:11 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Edited on 12/15/2005 9:28:33 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Lest you get carried away with today's good news from Iraq, consider what's happening next door in Iran. The wild pronouncements of the new Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, have gotten sporadic press ever since he called for Israel to be wiped off the map. He subsequently amended himself to say that Israel should simply be extirpated from the Middle East map and moved to some German or Austrian province. Perhaps near the site of an old extermination camp?


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; antisemitism; axisofevil; holocaust; iran; irannukes; islam; krauthammer; nuclearweapons
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To: pbrown

Thanks, I believe it to be true...


61 posted on 12/15/2005 10:18:24 PM PST by knews_hound (i know my typing sucks, i do it one handed ! (caps are especially tough))
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To: kinghorse
Conceivably a massive ground/sea/air blitz would work. Only way to effectively dismantle the program. That would be something.

I would think a few well-placed smart bombs would do the job simply enough.

62 posted on 12/15/2005 10:20:29 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: pbrown

Let's hope it won't take the loss of one of our cities to propel us into action.

Bush is a student of history, and as such he acts in ways that are historical. He gives little thought to the way he is treated in contemporary assessments. While he makes many accomodations to political reality, for the most part he strives for transformational policy thrusts. For those reasons, I believe if we need to do something re: Iran, Bush is the one to do it.

The thing is, large-scale military action against Iran might induce our domestic moonbats to extreme lengths. I'm serious--they're enraged and powerless and desperate, and hate our country. Who knows how they'll react. We live in one of the critical crossroads of history.


63 posted on 12/15/2005 10:25:17 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Greatness is not appreciated until it is gone)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
An impenetrable wall is what it will take along our borders.
64 posted on 12/15/2005 10:28:38 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: knews_hound

I hope you're right.


65 posted on 12/15/2005 10:29:19 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Waiting for the big war... this baby is going regional real fast.


66 posted on 12/15/2005 10:34:32 PM PST by Porterville (Keep your communism off my paycheck)
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To: Cyclopean Squid
This country is divided down the middle. Half are rooting for us to be brought to our knees. It will take something drastic before that half comes to their senses. And not all of them will.

I believe Bush is president at this time in our history because we need a strong leader. We'll see if he continues to look out for the United States. A democratic president would hand us lock stock and barrel over to the UN to decide what happens to us.

The thing is, large-scale military action against Iran might induce our domestic moonbats to extreme lengths. I'm serious--they're enraged and powerless and desperate, and hate our country. Who knows how they'll react. We live in one of the critical crossroads of history.

If push comes to shove with Iran, I don't think they'll be much of a problem. The 2nd admendment is the best of all. :-)

67 posted on 12/15/2005 10:37:14 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Porterville

I believe there is more going on behind the scenes - it's not just one 'loose cannon' in Iran....
Russia is deeply upset about the new balance of power in the mid-east and is probably calling the shots.

It's a planned test of the world (=WEST )as for how far Iran can go....


68 posted on 12/15/2005 10:38:35 PM PST by traumer
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To: West Coast Conservative

Mullah Machmoud has a demented mysticism in common with Heinrich Himmler..


69 posted on 12/15/2005 10:51:21 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: wolf24
However, the Israelis are under no such constraints.

I have considered that. However, the Israelis are caught between a rock and a hard spot. They cannot accomplish this without our help and if we help them we might as well go in and get the job done because we are going to be blamed by everyone, especially the libs in our own country. The reason I say this, is that the Israelis cannot make it to Iran and back without flying over other countries. They would have either have to get permission or fly around these countries thereby not having the fuel to get back. Here's where the U.S. enters but that also negates the surprise factor. So, what to do. Okay, we are back sitting on our thumbs and considering bringing congressional action in the T.Owens football controversy. Geesh.

70 posted on 12/15/2005 10:53:54 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: GLDNGUN
"NO ONE is prepared to let Iran get a nuclear weapon." - Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice

Gotta laugh. Did she forget about Russia?

71 posted on 12/15/2005 10:55:19 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Lest Charles forget that IRAN is part of the AXIS of EVIL, none of what their leader says is a surprise.

IMHO the next president will have little choice but to deal with IRAQ's neighbor, militarily.

72 posted on 12/15/2005 10:55:42 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: West Coast Conservative

The US should give Israel a range of medium missiles to counter anything that Iran can come up with , and Israel should come out in the open about it's nuke arsenal and announce a broad target list that will be launched on immediately if any attack is detected. They want to all die too? Let them chew on that....


73 posted on 12/15/2005 10:57:24 PM PST by injin
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To: Prost1

Bush will not do this on his own. Just like Iraq, he will seek congressional approval and on this issue everyone will wimp out. Reelection means more to them then world saftey.


74 posted on 12/15/2005 10:59:25 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Cyclopean Squid

I'm serious--they're enraged and powerless and desperate, and hate our country. Who knows how they'll react.

to quote my favorite President : "Bring it on!"


75 posted on 12/15/2005 11:00:12 PM PST by injin
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To: Windcatcher

Re your #16:

"...I see Israel purchasing (or at least "borrowing") some F-117's in the next couple of months."

They'd better git 'er done before the Ruskies get those state of the art G-A missle batteries set up for Iran.

We hear tell that not much of anything, up to and including the F-117, can hide from or outrun those things.

And our pilots who get shot down do NOT want to be captured by the Iranians, methinks.


76 posted on 12/15/2005 11:03:03 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: JasonC
And why won't anyone do anything about it?

Can't speak for the rest of the world but our leaders in congress are too busy dealing with more weighty matters such as whether it should be christmas tree or holiday tree.

77 posted on 12/15/2005 11:07:45 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Charlie wants a whole new war. He's really giving neo-cons a bad name. I like to watch him on TV, nobody (except maybe Britt), is better at cutting down stupid liberal talking heads, but he needs to relax a little.


78 posted on 12/15/2005 11:26:15 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: goldstategop

There is no question that Iran will lose, and lose badly. The only question is how much damage we will allow them to do.


79 posted on 12/15/2005 11:47:50 PM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: goldstategop

This Ahmednajeb is clearly nuts, or he wants us to believe that he is nuts for some arcane reason. Either way, the advantage to us of these increasingly belligerent and extreme statements is that a regime-change attack becomes easier to sell to US public opinion. It's almost like he is goading us to attack him. Perhaps he believes that our military and political commitments in Iraq and political constraints at home will stay our hand. That is a dangerous miscalculation.

Anyone any idea when the 'red line' might be crossed? March 2006? Or later? Are we going to see the same kind of build-up to war we saw with Iraq, or surprise strikes?


80 posted on 12/16/2005 12:12:08 AM PST by fragrant abuse
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