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Iran's Armageddon by Charles Krauthammer
Washington Post Writers Group ^ | December 16, 2005 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 12/15/2005 9:13:11 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Edited on 12/15/2005 9:28:33 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Lest you get carried away with today's good news from Iraq, consider what's happening next door in Iran. The wild pronouncements of the new Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, have gotten sporadic press ever since he called for Israel to be wiped off the map. He subsequently amended himself to say that Israel should simply be extirpated from the Middle East map and moved to some German or Austrian province. Perhaps near the site of an old extermination camp?


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; antisemitism; axisofevil; holocaust; iran; irannukes; islam; krauthammer; nuclearweapons
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1 posted on 12/15/2005 9:13:12 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Geez, Chuck!!! Give us ONE day to celebrate before Armageddon!!!


2 posted on 12/15/2005 9:15:53 PM PST by paulat
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To: West Coast Conservative
You can read between the lines of Krauthammer's latest column. There's going to be a bloody war. The only real question is who is going to win and who is going to lose when its over.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

3 posted on 12/15/2005 9:16:47 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: West Coast Conservative

And we just thought kim jong was nuts. I would expect Iran to be obliterated within minutes of "wiping Israel off the map". And this guy doesn't get it.


4 posted on 12/15/2005 9:18:19 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Negotiations to deny this certifiable lunatic genocidal weapons have been going nowhere. Everyone knows they will go nowhere. And no one will do anything about it.

He's right about this. No one will do anything because Bush admitted that intelligence was wrong on Iraq and no one wants to try and convince the people that all of a sudden the intelligence is right. Even if it is they are afraid to say it is. So, Iran will go the way Iran wants to go.

5 posted on 12/15/2005 9:19:02 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: All
Article on the "12th Imam".
6 posted on 12/15/2005 9:19:04 PM PST by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Negotiations to deny this certifiable lunatic genocidal weapons have been going nowhere. Everyone knows they will go nowhere. And no one will do anything about it."

Entirely correct. And why won't anyone do anything about it? Because assorted hysterics and important whores might have another hissy fit like the one they are having about the greatest military success in American history, next door.

7 posted on 12/15/2005 9:19:30 PM PST by JasonC
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To: taxesareforever
Yeah and just wait til an American city goes up in a mushroom cloud. We can thank the liberals for forcing us to surrender in the war on Islamofascism, if God forbid, that happens.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

8 posted on 12/15/2005 9:21:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: West Coast Conservative

'Extirpated', indeed.


9 posted on 12/15/2005 9:22:07 PM PST by txhurl (hook'em)
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To: West Coast Conservative
As usual, the brainy liberals who care so very, very much have absolutely nothing to say. No. They would rather spew and carp about Bush.
10 posted on 12/15/2005 9:22:13 PM PST by Reactionary (The Stalinist Media is the Enemy)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Armageddon ping.


11 posted on 12/15/2005 9:22:53 PM PST by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
And no one will do anything about it.

Au contraire....I believe that there ~is~ someone who will step up to this challenge. I believe M. Krauthammer and most everyone here knows who that someone is.

12 posted on 12/15/2005 9:23:39 PM PST by LK44-40
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To: goldstategop
The only reason that I would EVER support pulling troops out of Iraq early is so that they could strike Iran and take this fool out before he successfully goes nuclear.

I mean, come on! Iran is right next door! And doing this will strike half of the insurgency in its own back yard!

14 posted on 12/15/2005 9:25:39 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
And no one will do anything about it.

Laughable. Of course someone will do something. Israel or the U.S. will wipe out their nuclear facilities before they can finalize a bomb. End of story. The only other option is that Iran is somehow persuaded by diplomatic means to cease its attempt to build a bomb. That diplomacy will probably be about as successful as the attempts to get Saddam to leave Iraq to avoid U.S. military action.

"NO ONE is prepared to let Iran get a nuclear weapon." - Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice

15 posted on 12/15/2005 9:26:48 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: wolf24

Agree. I see Israel purchasing (or at least "borrowing") some F-117's in the next couple of months.


16 posted on 12/15/2005 9:26:57 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: West Coast Conservative; Thinkin' Gal
, Ahmadinejad was caught on videotape telling a cleric that during the speech an aura, a halo, appeared around his head right on the podium of the General Assembly.

Does the name lucifer ring a bell?

17 posted on 12/15/2005 9:27:11 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe (does anyone miss Ted Koppel?)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Iraq was the warm up for the main event.

If there isnt a Civil War in Iran soon, we need to start one.

Conveniently, we have a bunch of troops that will soon be without a mission....

Cheers,

knews hound

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18 posted on 12/15/2005 9:28:13 PM PST by knews_hound (i know my typing sucks, i do it one handed ! (caps are especially tough))
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To: West Coast Conservative

The Signs of the Reappearance (Qiyam) of the (Imam) who
undertakes the Office (al-Qa'im), Peace be on him, the
Period of Time of his Appearance, an Explanation of his
Life and an Extract of what is revealed about his State.




Traditions have been reported mentioning the signs for the time of
the appearance of the Imam who will arise (qa'im), peace be on him,
and the events which will take place before his appearance, together
with the indications and features of it. Among them are: The Sufyani
will come out in revolt; the Hasanid will be killed; the Abbasids will
dispute over worldly kingdom; there will be an eclipse of the sun in
the middle of the month of Ramadan; there will be an eclipse of the
moon at the end of that month in contrast to ordinary happenings;
the land will be swallowed up at al-Bayda'; it will be swallowed in the
east-it will be swallowed up in the west; the sun will stay still from the
time of its decline to the middle of the time for the afternoon prayer;


it will rise from the west; a pure soul (nafs zakiyya) will be killed in the
outskirts of Kufa with seventy righteous men; a Hashimite will be
slaughtered between the corner (of the Ka'ba) and the station of
Abraham); the wall of the mosque of Kufa will be destroyed; black
standards will advance from Khurasan; al-Yamani will come out in
revolt; al-Maghribi will appear in Egypt and take possession of it
from Syria; the Turk will occupy the region of al-Jazira; the
Byzantines will occupy Ramla; the star will appear in the east giving
light just like the moon gives light; then (the new moon) will bend
until its two tips almost meet; a colour will appear in the sky and
spread to its horizons; a fire will appear for a long time in the east
remaining in the air for three or seven days;

the Arabs will throw off
the reins and take possession of their land, throwing out the foreign
authority; the people of Egypt will kill their ruler and destroy Syria;
and three standards will dispute over it (Syria); the standards of Qays
and the Arabs will come among the people of Egypt; the standards of
Kinda (will go) to Khurasan; horses will come from the west until
they are stabled in al-Hira; the black standards will advance towards
them from the east; the Euphrates will flood so that the water comes
into the alleys of Kufa; sixty liars will come forward, all of them
claiming prophethood, and twelve will come forward from the family
of Abu Talib, all of them claiming the Imamate; a man of important
rank of the supporters of the 'Abbasids will be burnt between Jalula'
and Khaniqin; the bridge next to Karkh in the city of Baghdad will be
established;


a black wind will raise it at the beginning of the day and
then an earthquake will occur so that much of it will be swallowed up;
fear will cover the people of Iraq and Baghdad; swift death (will
occur) there and there will be a loss of property, lives and harvests;
locusts will appear at their usual times and at times not usual so that
they attack agricultural land and crops and there will be little harvest
for what the people planted; two kinds of foreigners will dispute and
much blood will be shed in their quarrel; slaves will rebel against
obedience to their masters and kill their masters (mawali); a group of
heretics (ahl al-bida) will be transformed until they become monkeys
and pigs; slaves will conquer the land of their masters; a cry (will
come) from the sky (in such a way) that all the people will hear it in
their own languages; a face and a chest will appear in the sky before
the people in the centre of the sun; the dead will arise from their
graves so that they will return to the world and they will recognize one
another and visit one another; that will come to an end with twenty-
four continous rainstorms and the land will be revived by them after
being dead and it will recognize its blessings; after that every disease
will be taken away from those of the Shia of the Mahdi, peace be on
him, who believe in the truth; at that time they will know of his
appearance in Mecca and they will go to him to support him.



(These signs) are as the reports have mentioned. Among the total of
these events are some which are bound (to happen) and other which
are conditional. God knows best what will take place. We have only
mentioned them on the basis of what is recounted in basic sources of
tradition (usul) because of their inclusion in traditions which have
been handed down. From God we seek help and Him do we ask for
success.




http://al-islam.org/masoom/bios/12thimam.html


19 posted on 12/15/2005 9:28:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: goldstategop
There's going to be a bloody war. The only real question is who is going to win and who is going to lose when its over.

"He who strikes first, strikes last..."

20 posted on 12/15/2005 9:28:26 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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