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Canada shrugs off U.S. warning to back off
Reuters via Yahoo! ^ | December 13, 2005 | Randall Palmer and Allan Dowd

Posted on 12/13/2005 5:42:26 PM PST by Brilliant

OTTAWA/SURREY, British Columbia (Reuters) - The United States made an unprecedented foray into Canada's election campaign on Tuesday, warning politicians not to bash Washington in their bid to win the January 23 election.

But an unapologetic Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin responded immediately by saying "c'est la vie" -- that's life -- if the United States did not like his remarks, and he would not accept anyone telling him he cannot defend his country.

In a hard-hitting speech in Ottawa, U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins lamented what he called relentless and incessant criticism of his country, which he speculated might begin to sow doubt about the strength of the binational relationship.

"Canada never has to tear the United States down to build itself up," Wilkins said.

"It may be smart election politics to thump your chest and constantly criticize your friend and your No. 1 trading partner. But it's a slippery slope and all of us should hope it doesn't have a long-term impact on our relationship."

Wilkins did not name the prime minister directly, but he specifically targeted a comment made last week at the Montreal climate change conference in which Martin called on the United States to heed a "global conscience" and join efforts to combat global warming.

That remark -- on top of criticism of U.S. policy on lumber, guns, passports and Iraq -- appeared to have riled the White House the most, particularly since Canada has a proportionally worse record than the United States on reining in greenhouse gas emissions.

"I would respectfully submit to you that when it comes to a 'global conscience' the United States is walking the walk," Wilkins said, addressing the Canadian Club of Ottawa.

"And when it comes to climate change, we are making significant progress, greater progress than many of those who have been most critical of the U.S."

In the campaign for the June 2004 election Martin regularly said Canada did not want U.S.-style health care, fiscal deficits, taxes or attack ads.

But in the last several months, particularly in frustration over U.S. refusal to eliminate duties on Canadian softwood, he has made more direct attacks on U.S. policy, and continued to do so during the election campaign.

Martin refused to back down on Tuesday in Surrey, British Columbia.

"That our friends do not like what we say -- well, c'est la vie. I'm going to defend Canada and I'm right on softwood lumber and I'm right on climate change and I won't let anybody tell me that I should not defend my country," he said.

He also dismissed the idea that he was trying to single out Washington as part of his election campaign.

"I have not made the United States or any country a target in this campaign," he said, noting that he had outlined Canada's stand on softwood lumber and climate change long before the election was called.

Martin, whose minority government was brought down on November 28 after an official report detailed Liberal kickbacks which were used in election campaigns, currently leads Conservative leader Stephen Harper in the polls but not by enough to regain a majority in Parliament.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: americahaters; americastoupee; annexation; blamecanada; bushhaters; canada; canuckistan; davidwilkins; usembassy
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To: armydawg1
among well read conservatives in the USA, there are similar feelings for Canada and France.

I totally agree! To me, Canada is basically "little France" or "France-lite."

61 posted on 12/13/2005 8:00:15 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

"Canada needs the U.S. more than the U.S. needs Canada"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>............
GM and FORD need to close plants well they got plenty in CANADA..any ideas which plants they should close first
hint north of the border..


62 posted on 12/13/2005 8:07:55 PM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Conservative voice in the wilderness of Canada. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.htm


63 posted on 12/13/2005 8:10:02 PM PST by UbonGhostrider (Fire for effect)
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To: UbonGhostrider

Conservative voice in the wilderness of Canada. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.htm



WRONG.

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/recent.php


64 posted on 12/13/2005 8:12:08 PM PST by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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To: Brilliant
he would not accept anyone telling him he cannot defend his country.

Methinks he does not understand.

"cannot" does not refer to being allowed to, "cannot" refers to a base inability to.

Notwithstanding a group of admittedly very talented snipers, Canada's ability to defend itself is, um, rather limited ... and, as such, would-be leaders of that fine nation would do well to not piss off its very generous and very powerful neighbor. While, granted, the likelyhood of Canada being invaded or otherwise engaging in active national defense is very small, that probability is not zero; verbally bashing its strongest defender will not serve Canada well if, in time of need, the USA contrasts current crisis with past rhetoric and responds, not with defending force, but with "cope".

65 posted on 12/13/2005 8:24:42 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: beaver fever

I hear you loud and clear. I've been up to Vancouver on many occasions. They have to drag me back across the border kicking and screaming everytime because of the women in that town. Makes it looks like Seattle had an ugly bomb dropped on it.

The ratio there is incredible. What the hell is in the water up there? Such beauties everywhere. Probably has to do with their only being a few major cities in that country so a lot of the hotties gravitate to the big cities like Toronto and Vancouver where the money and nightlife is.


66 posted on 12/13/2005 8:33:26 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Brilliant
But an unapologetic Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin responded immediately by saying "c'est la vie" -- that's life -- if the United States did not like his remarks, and he would not accept anyone telling him he cannot defend his country.

How exactly is Martin defending his country by US-bashing?
67 posted on 12/13/2005 8:36:14 PM PST by proud_yank ("The government dole will rot your soul" --Stan Rogers, 'The Idiot')
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

If you have coffee at Starbucks, at the corner or Robson and Thurlow, during the morning on any summer day, you will end up with a sore neck and a cold cup of coffee.

Nuff said.


68 posted on 12/13/2005 8:37:39 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: Paladin2
Bush Canada is responsible for Global Warning?

To be more 'PC'...
69 posted on 12/13/2005 8:48:09 PM PST by proud_yank ("The government dole will rot your soul" --Stan Rogers, 'The Idiot')
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To: beaver fever

I've been to that place and sat outside. Made me seriously consider defecting at the border, even if the city is filled with miserable socialists and insane liberals.

Was there a few months ago to see Diana Krall in concert at the Orpheium theater.
I went to a club called the sky bar right on granville after.

http://www.skybarvancouver.com/index2.html

Oh Canada...Oh Canada....


70 posted on 12/13/2005 8:52:37 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: xmission

So, did you buy some pepper spray in Canada - or is that a prohibited weapon?


71 posted on 12/13/2005 8:53:20 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: beaver fever
If you take up with Canadian women you're the one getting the action. Heh Heh.

I have to disagree with you there! Been here two years, and well, umm...... Yeah. I couldn't find a girl if I walked into a $.50 brothel with $10,000 stuffed in my skivvies! Friday nights are often spent in my office on FR. Not that that is a bad thing, but...
72 posted on 12/13/2005 8:53:31 PM PST by proud_yank ("The government dole will rot your soul" --Stan Rogers, 'The Idiot')
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

73 posted on 12/13/2005 9:08:38 PM PST by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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To: proud_yank

Next time go the Pelican Bar on Granville Island.


74 posted on 12/13/2005 9:16:11 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-

OHHHHHH CANADAAAAAAA!!!!!


75 posted on 12/13/2005 9:22:48 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: beaver fever

I'm willing to admit that the few they have are true warriors. They, however, don't have enough of them these days.


76 posted on 12/13/2005 9:27:28 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that the vast majority of Democrats are patriots?)
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To: Brilliant
Actually truth be told, Americans don't spend very much time at all thinking about Canadians. Do a google search on anti-Canadianism and I bet you you won't find a single serious website devoted to Canadian loathing. There are a few that are really just tongue in cheek.
78 posted on 12/13/2005 11:22:10 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Argus

That was the first thing I thought as well. I wonder if Martin will eat his words. Of course its a fraud. Without fear the Sierra Club doesn't get donations, and politicians don't get to pretend to me white knights.


79 posted on 12/13/2005 11:23:20 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Neville72
The other alternative is that Canada devolves into a confederacy of 10 jealous fiefdoms. More and more power is demanded from Ottawa, and in time the Feds are stripped of all meaningful power. Since it will be a Liberal oligarchy, as long as the Beluga eggs keep coming on behalf of the taxpayer, they won't care either.
80 posted on 12/13/2005 11:27:50 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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