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Europeans outraged at Williams execution [Tookie Stadium]
MSNBC ^ | 12/13/05 | AP

Posted on 12/13/2005 8:44:38 AM PST by minus_273

VIENNA, Austria - California's execution of Stanley Tookie Williams on Tuesday outraged many in Europe who regard the practice as barbaric, and politicians in Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's native Austria called for his name to be removed from a sports stadium in his hometown.

At the Vatican, Pope Benedict XVI's top official for justice matters denounced the death penalty for going against redemption and human dignity.

"We know the death penalty doesn't resolve anything," Cardinal Renato Martino told AP Television News. "Even a criminal is worthy of respect because he is a human being. The death penalty is a negation of human dignity."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: austria; eurotwitsforkerry; euroweenies; schwarzenegger; stanleywilliams; tookie; worldopinion
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To: SF Republican

The Guillotine was last used in France on Sept. 10, 1977, I believe. Four years after the moratorium on executions here. We just did the right thing and reinstated them.


61 posted on 12/13/2005 9:12:05 AM PST by Mr. Keys
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To: Sybeck1
Doesn't the bible condone the death penalty?

It seems to condone slavery. "Masters, be good to your slaves yadda yadda yadda".

62 posted on 12/13/2005 9:12:53 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: RogueIsland

Craig Ferguson (late night CBS) tells constantly about how violent Glasgow is.


63 posted on 12/13/2005 9:13:37 AM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: minus_273

"Oh my God! They Killed Tookie!"


64 posted on 12/13/2005 9:14:54 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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To: minus_273

"We know the death penalty doesn't resolve anything," Cardinal Renato Martino told AP Television News. "Even a criminal is worthy of respect because he is a human being. The death penalty is a negation of human dignity."

Would Martino have so easily convinced Paul?

Romans Ch 13:1-7
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.


65 posted on 12/13/2005 9:15:11 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: minus_273

Earth to the Europeans...your entire continent is about to be run over by Islamist the next 10 years. What happened in France is just the beginning. Your propped up way of life at the expense of our armed forces and protection is a miserable failure and will end in your dhimmitude to Satan’s hordes. Perhaps we'll disdain of your stupidity and tell you we have better things to do than have thousands of our citizens die for your benefit and without gratitude, when you beg us to help you fix your screwed up continent yet again.


66 posted on 12/13/2005 9:15:44 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: Lucky Lyn

Im not religious in any way, however such brutal killings of innocent people makes me see no other option than spilling the murderes blood as well.

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/three_victims_of_murderer_stanley_tookie_williams_Dec_13_2005.html

I have no remorse for him.


67 posted on 12/13/2005 9:16:44 AM PST by boulderite20
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To: minus_273
LOL I know no one will read this or believe it, but most Europeans would not even know who Tookie is, never mind he was executed.

What happens in America is not really that big news, most countries or more concerned with what goes on in there own borders.

Americans with the American media have a almost unhealthy obsession is wanting to know what we think about them.

If America was a person would it be a girl constantly standing up and asking does my bum look big in this. LOL

68 posted on 12/13/2005 9:18:12 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
...that genocide in Darfur.

That's genocide. It's not the Death Penalty.

You ignorant Merkin - can't you tell the difference? < /sarcasm>

69 posted on 12/13/2005 9:18:19 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: minus_273

"We know the death penalty doesn't resolve anything," Cardinal Renato Martino



NO Cardinal. "We" don't know. The Lord Knows. The death penalty does not exist for moral reasons but very practical ones...preventing vigilanteeism and revenge kilings and as a deterrance The only problem is that it takes too long to carry it out. Killers need to understand that their deeds will be met with death quickly.


70 posted on 12/13/2005 9:18:48 AM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: karnage
"Do you consider Cardinal Martino an idiot?"

On THIS particular topic? Borderline - tilted towards.

71 posted on 12/13/2005 9:19:00 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: minus_273
We know the death penalty doesn't resolve anything," Cardinal Renato Martino told AP Television News

I hate to dispute the Cardinal's assertion but the death penalty DOES resolve something, the killer does not kill another human being.

72 posted on 12/13/2005 9:19:44 AM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))
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To: minus_273
"MSNBC" says "many" in Europe were "outraged".

Exactly HOW many????

Where was the outrage over the four lives snuffed out by this monster??

Where is the outrage over the other lives destroyed or ruined by the gang he created??

Nothing more vivid can portray the pusillanomousness and lack of moral compass of the degenerate socialist Europeans than the award of a "Noble Prize" to this monstrous travesty of a human being.

By now, he's playing checkers in Hell with the Devil, where he belongs.

Executing this beast isn't vengeance - its justice. Something the Europeans know very little about anymore.
73 posted on 12/13/2005 9:20:04 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: minus_273
Europe is just plain full of shiite.. bunch of silly girly boys, perverts and hypocrites.. anything and everything euroweenietrash will cry outrage at America because they are full of hate and envy.. just like their Rat cousins.
74 posted on 12/13/2005 9:20:26 AM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: minus_273

"We know the death penalty doesn't resolve anything," Cardinal Renato Martino told AP Television News.

Reminds me of the story about the starfish stranded on the beach after a storm. Little kid's tossing them back one by one, man comes along and says, "What you're doing won't make any difference". Kid tosses another starfish, looks at the man and says, "It made a difference to that one..."


75 posted on 12/13/2005 9:22:15 AM PST by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: indcons

Sure. Remember to "respect" their queer priest as you turn the handle of the vice holding their w*ts.


76 posted on 12/13/2005 9:22:19 AM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

It seems to condone slavery. "Masters, be good to your slaves yadda yadda yadda".

No, it doesn't actually CONDONE slavery, the scriptures advise the slaveholder HOW to conduct himself with regards to the enslaved as it also instructs the bondservant how to behave towards his/her keeper.

Big difference.


77 posted on 12/13/2005 9:23:34 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Mr. K

I take no great pleasure in the execution, but anyone who has objections should be confronted with the police photos of the people Tookie so brutally murdered. They finally have their justice. As far as Tookie's so-called redemption, did he ever admit to his crimes, much less apologize for them? I'm not sure he changed in any sense other than he just got old.


78 posted on 12/13/2005 9:23:50 AM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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A stadium named for a cold-blooded killer.

What's next, a peace prize for a terrorist?


79 posted on 12/13/2005 9:24:26 AM PST by D-fendr
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To: minus_273

Oh Puleeze!


80 posted on 12/13/2005 9:24:48 AM PST by najida (Cruelty, mockery, ridicule; the weapon of sanctimonious bullies too stupid to recognize insults ;))
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