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LIVE THREAD - UPDATE: TOOKIE WILLIAMS EXECUTED
Fox news | Dec 12, 2005

Posted on 12/12/2005 10:45:34 AM PST by commish

Gov. Shwarzeneggar expected to make announcement on Tookie Williams Execution Clemency shortly according to Fox News.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: musicman
#5 "Seasons In the Sun"

Cruel and unusual...

...but I'm laughing my Tookie off.

241 posted on 12/12/2005 11:25:26 AM PST by FreedomFarmer (Facts without theory is trivia. Theory without facts is socialism.)
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To: freedom4ever

"News guy on FOX TV said Jesse Jackson showed up and is trying to see Tookieboy. Imagine that?"

I'd like to see Tookie drawn and quartered, but having to spend your last day with the Shakedown Jackson? That's just cruel.


242 posted on 12/12/2005 11:25:42 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

My bet: Tookie is spared.


243 posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:02 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Santa Claus is an illegal alien.)
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To: MineralMan

I missed the original question, but, I'm almost certain you didn't answer it.


244 posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:15 AM PST by John W
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To: Tall_Texan

Probably right. Ahnold will wimp out.


245 posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:31 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: It's me

If this announcement were closer to sundown, it would mean clemency. Since it's early in the day, I suspect denial of clemency and a curfew will be announced.


246 posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:39 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Chuck Cooperstein is a tool.)
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To: Sloth

Pofanity is one thing. Abortion and murder are an entirely different animal.


247 posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:49 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: MineralMan

Fair enough. But you would personally "execute" (in self defense, but execute nonetheless) someone before he committed murder. How do you know for sure he was going to murder your child? He may have had no real intention to do it, so you would have killed a man who was only there to rob you. You would not allow the state to do it after he committed murder. It is infinitely worse after he committed the act. Why do you think you deserve the power of God but the state doesn't deserve it?


248 posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:53 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: Beth528

Of course using this logic one could argue that the Framers resisted the plan of God by standing up to the British. Romans 13:1 alludes to 'powers that are ordained by God' not worldly rulers. Unless of course you are advocating the old British ideal that rulers have a divine right to rule. You do know the Framers rejected that principle don't you?


249 posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:58 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Tall_Texan

I think you're right. Arnold's gonna save him. Why else would he wait so long and build this up so much? I'm for the death penalty, but even I think it's cruel to draw this out so long.


250 posted on 12/12/2005 11:27:19 AM PST by zook
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To: Tall_Texan
My bet: Tookie is spared.

Arnold will say "He is far more useful to society if he is alive, than if he were dead. Therefore, I grant his clemency, ....and I am not going to run for Governator next term.."

251 posted on 12/12/2005 11:27:21 AM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

I agree


252 posted on 12/12/2005 11:27:21 AM PST by It's me
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To: PhatBack

"So let me get this straight. If someone breaks into your house and points a gun at your child, you are all for blowing them away. However, if the guy pulls the trigger before you do and kills your child. Then death for the perp is now out of the question?!? "




Not if I am there. If I am there, the perp dies. If I am not, then the situation is no longer immediate. I described that immediacy situation above in an earlier post.

No, I do not believe that the state should execute criminals. I believe the state should incarcerate them.

The question of what I would do in a particular situation is beside the point. I might well react and kill the murderer of a loved one, even later. However, I would not want the state to do so.


253 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:01 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Maceman

I'll bet Arnold does not give in and go for clemency. Arnold has been asked to grant clemency in the past and declined to do so. In addition, I think if Arnold were to grant clemency in this case, he would have done so sooner instead of waiting until the last minute. Tookie must die for the sake of humanity. If for some insane reason, Arnold did grant clemency, I might have to consider moving to California just so I can vote against him come next election. Clemency will only hurt him, and the small percentage of the population that actually wants this murderous thug to live, are not exactly the type of people who would vote for Arnold anyway.


254 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:18 AM PST by WashingtonStateRepublican
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To: clawrence3

You should have seen the party on the hillside outside the prison when they executed Ted Bundy. Cleaned out the shelves of every liquor store for miles around.
I'll raise a glass as the founder of the Crips chokes.


255 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:40 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Tall_Texan
Could be so. I'm not betting, but I believe that the governor will deny clemency.

I was just remarking that to the best of my recollection, the California governor usually appears live on TV to announce the last minute appeal. I can't remember a CA governor giving clemency.

You'll have to pardon the accuracy of my recollection since it's so infrequent that California hosts an execution.

256 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:40 AM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

My pleasure, Bob. I have been waiting for years for a good, logical answer. There really is none. The logical position for someone against the death penalty is to not kill an intruder.


257 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:40 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: commish

Based on his role in the Crips, and in the ongoing gang violence all these years since... how many deaths do you suppose he has been INdirectly responsible for? Not even counting the gang member vs gang member murders which are just messy and cost the taxpayers? I would speculate it to be a number much higher than our losses in Iraq....and he has had all the opportunities available under the legal system. I am generally neutral on capital punishment, but in this case...... Just hoping the riots don't cause much damage or bloodshed.


258 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:49 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Paradox

Funny how Tookie will be spared yet Schiavo was sacrificed. Something wrong there.


259 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:53 AM PST by YourAdHere (Viking kitties taste like chicken.)
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To: Maceman

if he thinks he'll score points with the lunatic left by granting clemency, Ahnold is dumber than he looks!


260 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:55 AM PST by Jazzman1 (lol)
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