Pryor was funny, but then again, barbarians often are, until you drop your guard and they are ready to kill you.
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To: .cnI redruM
Pat Grey had a great parody eulogy on the foul mouth crack head this morning.
To: .cnI redruM
So a real role model would be tookie williams?
3 posted on
12/12/2005 8:53:45 AM PST by
al baby
(Father of the beeber)
To: .cnI redruM
Comedian's vulgarity made him no role model. No one ever said Pryor was a role model, nor did he claim to be.
But he sure was funny.
4 posted on
12/12/2005 8:54:31 AM PST by
Mr. Mojo
To: .cnI redruM
I thought I heard on ABC that his grandmother was a Madame and mother a prostitute?
To: .cnI redruM
Comedian's vulgarity made him no role model. Nope, but he was a great comedian.
7 posted on
12/12/2005 8:55:37 AM PST by
Paradox
(Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
To: .cnI redruM
Geez, imagine what a depraved weasel George Carlin is.
8 posted on
12/12/2005 8:56:14 AM PST by
atomicpossum
(Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
To: .cnI redruM
Since when was he supposed to be a role model? Stupid article.
9 posted on
12/12/2005 8:56:33 AM PST by
rattrap
To: .cnI redruM
Of course, Russell Simmons' Def Comedy Jam is the ultimate coon showhuh?
10 posted on
12/12/2005 8:57:03 AM PST by
wallcrawlr
(Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
To: .cnI redruM
...the new minstrelsy in which millions of dollars are made by "normalizing" demeaning imagery and misogyny.
&&
Well put.
13 posted on
12/12/2005 8:58:09 AM PST by
Bigg Red
(Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
To: .cnI redruM
Comedian's vulgarity made him no role model. But it did make him funny as hell. He was a bit over the top at times, but much of Pryor's funniest bits would not have had the same effect without the use of certain words. Especially when is sketch was actually skewering the people who use that language everyday as a standard part of thier speech. When making fun of them, the parody is lost without the same verbage they used.
Pryor's comedy was not for everyone, that is for sure, but he was a genious and should be remembered as one of the best comedians ever.
15 posted on
12/12/2005 8:58:41 AM PST by
commish
(Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
To: .cnI redruM
I'm sorry, but I disagree.
I do abhor society's descent in vulgarity. But Pryor showed us the darkness that exists, that was his whole life, and made it human and compelling with his brilliance.
He was the Charlie Parker of comedy, a man whose dazzling brilliance and virtuosity made me and others laugh more than almost any other comedian.
I am sorry he is gone, I am sorry that the last years of his life were filled with such debility. And I am grateful to have seen his work.
RIP, Richard.
20 posted on
12/12/2005 9:03:32 AM PST by
Maceman
(Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
To: .cnI redruM
Stanley Crouch is correct. But, let's have that cake and eat it too anyway, by mourning the decline of popular culture, and, at the same time, celebrating crude, vulgar comedians and [c]rappers!
22 posted on
12/12/2005 9:04:22 AM PST by
Revolting cat!
("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
To: .cnI redruM
A fine thread indeed separates Comedy and Drama.
Pryor was funny, and a realist.
24 posted on
12/12/2005 9:05:35 AM PST by
kajingawd
(" happy with stone underhead, let Heaven and Earth go about their changes")
To: .cnI redruM
Pryor was a comedienne, an entertainer. People who felt like watching and listening paid to be entertained. Who said he was or wanted to be a role model or considered himself to be one. If he was foul mouthed, crude or whatever, so what. No one was forced to watch him.
25 posted on
12/12/2005 9:06:14 AM PST by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: .cnI redruM
I agree that Pryor's material was vulgar and at times extremely offensive. But damn, that man was funny! It's too bad he wasn't able to channel that ability into something a little less disgusting.
29 posted on
12/12/2005 9:11:03 AM PST by
reagan_fanatic
(Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
To: .cnI redruM
"When we look at the remarkable descent this culture has made into smut, contempt, vulgarity and the pornagraphic, those of us who are not willing to drink the Kool-Aid marked "all's well," will have to address the fact that it was the combination of confusion and comic genius that made Pryor a much more negative influence than a positive one."
Venice is sinking, and we all think we are going to stay dry.
31 posted on
12/12/2005 9:12:03 AM PST by
naturalized
(Some folks look at me and see a certain swagger, which in Texas is called walking.)
To: .cnI redruM
It's all Pryor's fault.
Oh wait. George Carlin and the seven words you can't say on television came along about the same time if not before.
No, it must have been Lenny Bruce. That's the ticket.
Come to think of it, there's something pathetic in blaming comedians for the crap Cassius Clay started. Or was it Red Foxx?
Some many sins. So few targets.
39 posted on
12/12/2005 9:21:05 AM PST by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: .cnI redruM
As he revealed in his last performance films, Pryor understood the prison he had built for himself . . . This reminds of a time I saw him on the Tonight Show, or some such interview program. He had just finished working on Stir Crazy, which takes place in a prison. During the interview, he mentioned how he had gone to a real prison to get a feel for what it was really like, and after getting to meet some of the residents, he said, "Thank God, they got penitentiaries!"
I'm not so sure I'd agree with Stanley Crouch that Pryor begat so much of the vulgar culture that exists today. There has been ample opportunity for denouncements, and there are far too few. Bill Cosby is one who speaks out, and I wonder what Pryor might have done if not for his health. In Richard Pryor:Live From The Sunset Strip, he pretty much disavows much of his past language and bitterness. But that doesn't draw too many headlines.
41 posted on
12/12/2005 9:22:14 AM PST by
TravisBickle
(The War on Terror: Win It There or Fight It Here)
To: .cnI redruM
Some confuse novelty with talent....Pryor was one of the first of his type; vulgar, crass....Once you go there, what's the encore?
Today, ask copycat Eddie Murphy how many gigs he has lined up. Funny at first....Old at last.
If you saw a trainwreck every day on your way into work, after a while you'd wouldn't even slow down to watch.
Ask Eddie Murphy.
51 posted on
12/12/2005 9:31:16 AM PST by
add925
(The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
To: .cnI redruM
Pryor tried to make white America uncomfortable? Gosh then I guess he wasn't nearly as good as I thought, being in white America and having enjoyed Pryor for as long as I can remember and never having felt uncomfortable because of his humor if that was his goal then he was a miserable failure. I always thought that what made Pryor so great was that he managed to be so popular in white America while remaining a truly black comedian (as opposed to somebody like Cosby whose comedy is basically neutral).
55 posted on
12/12/2005 9:32:58 AM PST by
discostu
(a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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