Stop Erecting of Statue of Genocide Leader Ataturk in Rome!

Action Commitees of Armenia and Greece ^ | December 11, 2005 | International Armenian Network

[eleni121]

Please click the following link and send an email to the Mayor of Rome protesting the erection of a mass murderer Mustafa kemal Ataturk.

http://www.ian.cc/acciones.php

[skinkinthegrass]

I merely said, "It was an interesting site" ...and yes, I did notice, it was from the Turkish Embassy.

btw...If you add up all dead, from that time period; its deadtoll, must have been what? 4,5,6...million dead...how about an even 10...pick a #.

*itching @ posters/readers shall not, take the "chip off your shoulders."

[Cronos]

well, I acknowledge the Armenian genocide and agree with your protest, I think you would affect the argument by exaggerating the number -- yes it was a million odd butchered by the Turks, but not "millions"

[F14 Pilot]

ping!

[PAR35]

"It's Italian."

Well, it looks Spanish, and the Fish thinks it's Spanish, but, I dug deeper.

Now I'm beginning to question your credibility. I went back to the site, and looked more closely at it. The copyright notice (which also appears to be in Spanish for an organization with an English language name) says:
© 2004-2005 INTERNATIONAL ARMENIAN NETWORK - Todos los derechos reservados.
Buenos Aires, República Argentina.

Do you think they speak Italian in Argentina?

And the TLD for the web site is 'cc' which is the country code for the Cocos Islands.

So at this point, I have to wonder what is really going on. Is this a harvesting operation for Spammers or ID thiefs?

Can you come up with a link to a legitimate site that such a memorial in Rome is actually in the works?

[MarMema]

What say you, if you please? Can you share some historical info for me?

[PAR35]

Don't bother to come up with a link. I Googled Ataturk statue rome and the second hit that came up was for a Stormfront article. And if anyone knows genocide, it should be the Nazis. I'll not post a link, but here's the header from Google:
Say NO to a Statue of ataturk in Rome - Stormfront White ...
Say NO to a Statue of ataturk in Rome Activism and politics in Europe

[Choose Ye This Day]

How about a statue honoring mass murderer Lenin, proudly on display in Seattle?

[processing please hold]

We've been dragged into enough of Europe's $hit. Let the Italians decide what statue gets erected in Rome.

[Choose Ye This Day]

It's Italian.

No, it's not:

NO permitas que un genocida como Ataturk tenga un monumento en Roma. Sumate a los esfuerzos por hacer de este mundo un lugar mas seguro.

That is clearly Spanish. Trust me on this one. Your link goes to the Armenian Community of Argentina website. They speak Spanish there. I know. I've lived in Argentina. (Didn't meet too many Armenians there, though.)

[Choose Ye This Day]

Do you think they speak Italian in Argentina?

Some still do, but not many. Argentina was principally founded by immigrants from Italy, and to a lesser degree, from Spain. Argentines say "chau" for goodbye (pronounced the same as Italian "ciao") rather than "adios," like most of Latin America.

But that website is all Spanish. The Fish is right.

[wideminded]

Not sure which genocide you are referring to. The Armenian genocide was in 1915. Ataturk did not become leader of Turkey until 1923.

[PAR35]

Some still do, but not many.

Point taken. There were also some German speaking immigrants in the 1940s and 50s.

[Choose Ye This Day]

In some of the provinces there are still a few small villages of mostly fair-haired, German-speaking residents.

A couple of villages down south are English-speaking, from what I've heard. Then, of course, there are the Falklands.

[JohnnyZ]

Seriously, sign the petition...it's not a laughing matter.

Protest the guy who dragged Turkey out of the middle ages and into 20th century secular democracy?

[JohnnyZ]

You can start educating yourself by reading: Balakian's The Burning Tigris

Balakian is a literature professor and anti-Turk activist whose historical claims are way out there beyond what even most Armenians would argue.

Methinks you need some more balance in your own view. I've studied both sides and I gotta say nothing has impressed me as much as the hypocrisy with which Turk-haters denounce the Turks in the harshest terms for downplaying the killings of Armenians while promoting their own false version of history in its place.

Is it too much to ask that people consider the TRUTH? and not some propoganda position?

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

I agree with you 100%. Although Ataturk fought against Britain and Russia during World War I, historically, he is considered one of the great men of the 20th century for his reforms, which dragged Turkey kicking and screaming into the 20th century. He may or may not have been at least partially responsible for what happened to the Armenians, but if he had not done what he did in terms of modernization, we would be facing today another Islamofascist state, one that could have been potentially more powerful and threatening than Iran.

BTW, why would Rome want to put up a statue of Ataturk? Seems like Istanbul would be a better place for it.

[GSlob]

I'm with you on it.

[JNL]

Exactly.

[eleni121]

I have posted more than enough data for you to read absorb...but I am not holding my breath that you will do so. If it were staring you in the face you wouldn't believe any of it...typical behavior for a Turkophile.

You have your agenda - which is denial - and I have my mission - to continue declaring the about the genocides against the Christian inhabitants of Asia Minor at he hands Muslim Turks.

Then again, what are you still doing here? You have already said you are not interested...