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Jeanine to disa-Pirro from race vs. Hil ( Pirro Dropping Out of Race Against Hillary )
NY Daily News ^ | 12/12/05 | JOE MAHONEY

Posted on 12/11/2005 7:09:15 PM PST by nj26

Jeanine Pirro is expected to quit her bid to unseat Sen. Hillary Clinton as early as tomorrow, prematurely ending what had been billed as one of the nation's marquee races. Just a few months ago, the smart, aggressive and charming Westchester district attorney was the darling of a Republican Party convinced she was the right candidate who - even if she couldn't beat Clinton - could at least slice into her high approval ratings.

But now, Pirro, 54, is being written off as the first political roadkill of the 2006 election season. And Clinton never even had to throw a punch.

What happened?

"She's been hurt by a lack of money and a campaign that from the beginning has been sputtering at best," said Marist College pollster Lee Miringoff.

Pirro, he said, also fell into the trap of making a central issue of her campaign that Clinton harbors presidential ambitions and won't finish a second term, a claim that, even if true, doesn't seem to matter much to most New Yorkers.

GOP insiders said they expect her to toss in the towel tomorrow when Republican leaders meet in Albany to gear up for next year's elections, which also feature races for governor, state attorney general, Congress and all 212 state lawmakers.

Officially, her campaign says Pirro has no plans to quit, but sources said she will be "drafted" to run for attorney general, a job for which many of her backers say she is well qualified given her background as a prosecutor and former judge.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2006; boxerlookalike; clintonclone; cokeheadhusband; facelift; gopprimary; gospencer; hillary; hillaryclone; pirro; rino; senate2006; unelectable; wasteoftime
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To: nj26

It's hard to go up against the Hillary money.

And Pirro is a liberal anyway. Pro-abortion all the way.


101 posted on 12/11/2005 8:24:09 PM PST by Palladin (There ain't nobody here but us chickens. (Senate Dems Theme Song))
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To: HitmanNY; oceanview; nopardons
I agree with you guys, but Pirro is just NOT A GOOD CANDIDATE! She is not very bright, could get her clock cleaned by my three year old nephew in a debate, and has some questionable associations in her past (thus negating the "character" issue).

Reminds me of all of those idiots who actually thought Loozio could pull it off. He wound up getting stomped like a narc at a Hells Angels meeting.

102 posted on 12/11/2005 8:24:13 PM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: Cincinna
Are we talking about George ( Mr. Charisma ) Pataki? He would be a terrible candidate.

Mr. 9/11 Bush Coattails, Mr. Smile In The Background While Others Do The Work. And his name is appropriate. Sounds like a cat hocking up a furball and is closely related to patooey, I believe. :o)

103 posted on 12/11/2005 8:24:34 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: oceanview
"Schundler lost because he didn't get enough votes, NJ is another state where this mythical "hidden vote" simply does not exist."

I get a kick out of those bellyaching how Pirro was "treated" upon her announcement of running, yet we see the political corpses of Conservatives who have been kneecapped by corrupt, statist RINOs who want to keep their party pure for their ilk and to preserve their ever-dwindling base of power. People like Schundler were very great threats to the RINO establishment, because they rose through politics without their help and proved, to their chagrin, that CONSERVATIVE solutions to problems when applied WORK. Schundler was a threat that had to be destroyed, and the mission was accomplished. Now thanks to the stellar work of the NJ RINOs, the Republican party is in its worst shape since after Watergate, has lost seats at the state level in EVERY SINGLE ELECTION since 1993, and continues its slide towards complete irrelevence until it reaches the morbidity of Massachusetts Republicanism (buried with absolutely finality by William Weld, who is chomping at the bit to repeat this task in New York like the good Trojan Democrat that he is). If running these "moderates" (sic) were the solution, NJ would be overflowing with "Republicans" from Cape May to High Point. They're not. Until that reality is recognized, nothing will ever change. RINOs remain the cancer on the party and need to be excised with extreme prejudice.

104 posted on 12/11/2005 8:27:58 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: nj26
I wouldn't bet on ANY of those votes for Alito.

Arlen voted for Thomas and Roberts. Arlen is a friend of Alito.

Arlen will vote for Alito.

105 posted on 12/11/2005 8:28:10 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: nopardons
"I was never your friend; ergo, that quote is not only silly, it's pathetically misused."

Given your penchant for melodrama and over-the-top attacks in the absence of facts to support your positions, I'll cite you are quite the expert on what is silly, pathetic and misused, Chester. ;-)

106 posted on 12/11/2005 8:31:40 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Clemenza

Pirro had some strong hype early on but has consistently come across as a lightweight. You are correct.

Freepers should remember that our leaders lead, and do not rule. Most NYers aren't all that conservative. Running a strong conservative to alienate them out of spite is just plain dumb. The leader should best reflect the values of NYers. Running a candidate who clearly does not relect the values of most NYers is a formula for consistent losses.

As for giving people a clear choice, look at IL. Keyes was squashed like a bug, though he gave voters a clear choice. He was strongly rejected by the electorate.


107 posted on 12/11/2005 8:32:04 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: nopardons

Having a discussion with you is like arguing with a DUer, except perhaps that I haven't detected a chronic orthographical deficiency, on your part, but merely ones involving facts and reality.


108 posted on 12/11/2005 8:34:38 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Lancey Howard
I hate moderate Republicans.

Congratulations, you are now in the running for my Conservative Moonbat of the Year Award.

109 posted on 12/11/2005 8:35:18 PM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: oceanview

That's because Powell is a RINO. His tenure as Secretary of State was, shall we say, a disappointment. Then, of course, he was never one for rising to the occasion when called upon. He could've spared this country a 2nd Clinton term and he chose not to. Hard to have respect for someone like that.


110 posted on 12/11/2005 8:37:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: HitmanNY

"The leader should best reflect the values of NYers. Running a candidate who clearly does not relect the values of most NYers is a formula for consistent losses."

That's a talking point of self styled centrists, but is such a position honest, or effective?

In a two-party system, you don't aim for the middle of the electorate, as it will alienate the base, and drive them away over time. What is more effective is building a coalition of various types of voters, advocating their positions in some sort of consistent way across a single party line, and aim for the middle of your side. Undecideds, though they will decide elections if only half the population shows up to vote, are not the people you build a campaign around. They may be representive of the average guy, but there is an obligation to server your party's voice.

I can see the communist party of China, in the instances where they bother to consider the average Chinaman on the street, to make such an everyday guy calculation. That's because it'a a one Party system. In America, it's a battle, and someone has to win, and someone has to lose, it's not win-win come election time.


111 posted on 12/11/2005 8:38:35 PM PST by Frank T
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To: arasina
"We saw 'em. Remember? I said 'Clam sauce. Ick!'"

Yeah, but was that "ick" OR "yuck"??

"Headline: Pirro's Campaign Goes pyric pyrrhic!"

Good, but you know I'm such a stickler for spelling 8-D <---- eyeballs rollin'

112 posted on 12/11/2005 8:38:53 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: HitmanNY
"As for giving people a clear choice, look at IL. Keyes was squashed like a bug, though he gave voters a clear choice"

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."
-George Bernard Shaw.
113 posted on 12/11/2005 8:40:13 PM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: HitmanNY

"Keyes was squashed like a bug, though he gave voters a clear choice."

Jack Ryan, pre-scandal, also would have given people in IL a clear choice. He also would have done better than Keyes, in that he wasn't flown in out of state at the last minute, so to speak.


114 posted on 12/11/2005 8:40:36 PM PST by Frank T
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To: HitmanNY

A strong Conservative scares the RINO establishment more than it does the average NY or NJ voter.


115 posted on 12/11/2005 8:41:28 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Frank T

Running a candidate that reflects the values of the electorate IS effective. What in the world makes you think otherwise?


116 posted on 12/11/2005 8:41:33 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: nopardons

...spoketh the Liberal RINO.


117 posted on 12/11/2005 8:42:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
A strong Conservative scares the RINO establishment more than it does the average NY or NJ voter.

Not at all.

118 posted on 12/11/2005 8:43:10 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY

I don't think the electorate or any state is as uniform as you imply. There are all sorts of views on how to organize the government.

Even in states that are dominated by one party, it has different "wings."


119 posted on 12/11/2005 8:45:44 PM PST by Frank T
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To: BillyBoy

Bingo. You absolutely nailed it there. The more I see it, the more I come to the conclusion that many RINOs are simply Democrats who've been paid off to disrupt and inflict MAXIMUM damage within the Republican party. The funny thing is, they don't even have to change their ideology to do it... we just open the door and let the enemies right through the gate. The Democrats, for all their evil and ignorance, aren't so stupid that they'd EVER allow those types of shenanigans to F up their own party, they'd quickly show those types the door.


120 posted on 12/11/2005 8:47:40 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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