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Is It Treason Yet?
GOP USA ^ | 12-09-05 | Joe Mariani - Commentary

Posted on 12/08/2005 7:56:07 PM PST by smoothsailing

Is It Treason Yet?

By Joe Mariani

December 9, 2005

Treason is defined, in part, as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemies of the United States, according to the Constitution (Article III, Section 3) (web site) and the United States Code (Title 18, Part I, Chapter 115, Section 2381). (web site) Yet the Constitution also states, in the First Amendment, (web site) that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech." How do we distinguish between free speech and treason? Where do we draw the line? The answer may be found using that least-used resource: common sense.

I would submit that the elected leaders of this country have more responsibility than the rest of us to ensure that they give no aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. With American troops risking their lives in daily battle on behalf of the nation, critical words from those in leadership positions carry greater weight than in peacetime, both with the enemy and with our own troops.

Yet the leaders of the Democratic Party consistently attack the war in Iraq with lies, from distorting the history of our confrontation with Saddam Hussein, (web site) to prevaricating about their own statements which led us to war, (web site) to defaming the character of every member of the Bush administration in turn. Worst of all, however, is the slander they spread about our troops.

The Chairman of the Democratic party, Howard Dean, said during a radio interview on 6 December (web site) that the "idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong." Does this statement not give "aid and comfort" to the enemy? The leader of a major political party, to which nearly half of all Americans belong, is telling the terrorists and insurgents in Iraq that they will win; that they will beat the United States.

Dean also said that, "this is the same situation we had in Vietnam," and in a certain sense, he's right. The beaten, demoralized North Vietnamese leadership was given new hope by certain American politicians and the press, to the point where they struggled on until America's liberals turned public opinion against the war. America was forced to withdraw from Vietnam in disgrace, having never lost a battle, by people just like Howard Dean. With his defeatist statements, Dean is giving our enemies the aid and comfort they need to keep fighting. How many Americans will die because of Dean's irresponsible remarks, made only to seek political advantage? Tell me why that's not treason.

Senator John Kerry (D-MA), the Democratic Party's most recent Presidential candidate, appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation" on 4 December (web site) to deface the American military. Speaking to interviewer Bob Schieffer, Kerry said that "there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the -- of -- the historical customs, religious customs." (And some people accuse GW Bush of being incoherent?) .

Does a United States Senator and former Presidential candidate accusing American soldiers of terrorizing women and children in the dead of night not give aid and comfort to the enemy? Just as he did during Vietnam, (web site) John Kerry is falsely accusing American troops of committing atrocities as a matter of normal course in an attempt to undermine support for the war among Americans. As a consequence -- intended or not -- he is yet again handing America's enemies an immense propaganda victory. How many potential terrorists will have their hatred of Americans fueled by Kerry's matter-of-fact statement that American soldiers are terrorising women and children in their homes at night, breaking cultural and religious taboos? Tell me why that's not treason.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) fully supports and endorses the recent statements of Representative John Murtha (D-PA), the ranking Democrat on the House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee. Murtha has made a big splash among the anti-war faction by calling for an immediate -- within six months -- pullout from Iraq. On 1 December, Murtha told a group of leading Pennsylvania citizens (web site) that America would be forced to abandon Iraq within a year because the troops are "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth." Murtha is hailed as a hero in the media for suddenly changing his mind about the war in Iraq, but called it "unwinnable" and stated that "we cannot prevail... with the policy we have today," while urging President Bush to send even more troops in May 2004. (web site)

What a burst of enthusiasm Murtha's words must have engendered among our enemies! How much hope will they take from his proclamation that they are, in fact, winning the war? Despite fantastic losses, and despite earning the enmity of the Iraqi people, the terrorists and Saddam supporters in Iraq can now believe that if they just find the strength to hold on a little longer, they can push the hated United States out of Iraq. How many of the enemy will fight rather than surrender, because Pelosi and Murtha have told them they're winning? How does that not give the enemy aid and comfort? Is that not treason?

Not all Democrats follow the defeatist, destructive path of their leaders. But those ARE their leaders -- the Chairman of their party, their most recent Presidential candidate, their party leader in the House of Representatives. Some Democrat politicians have repudiated the statements of Dean, Kerry, Pelosi, Murtha and the rest... not because those remarks were vile, untrue and treasonous, but because the Democrats are afraid such openly anti-American statements might "harm efforts to win control of Congress next year," according to the Washington Post. (web site) The only way they can regain power is to hide their true feelings, and they know it. Treason, it seems, is still considered malapropos by some Democrats.

But not all.

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Joe Mariani is a computer consultant born and raised in New Jersey. He now lives in Pennsylvania, where the gun laws are less restrictive and taxes are lower. Joe always thought of himself as politically neutral until he saw how far left the left had really gone after 9/11. His essays and links to articles are available at http://www.guardianwatchblog.com/

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Note -- The opinions expressed in this column are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, and/or philosophy of GOPUSA.

NOTE: All (website) notations can be accessed by going to the GOP USA link at the top of this article-smoothsailing


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; aidandcomfort; chairmandean; collaborators; cutandrun; dhpl; dnc; enemywithin; hangemhigh; murtha; patriotleak; pelosi; saboteurs; sedition; treason
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101 posted on 12/08/2005 9:57:43 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
We've had one MoveOn Freeper on the thread, but he's gone now.

Thanks for the great posts. You know where I stand but check out my post#20 anyway.

102 posted on 12/08/2005 9:57:54 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: LUV W

O.K. We're not going to hijack the thread. That happens to me all the time. :)


103 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:09 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Sure makes ya wonder when the AG gets off his ass and starts doing his job and starts leveling charges at all the a'holes in government and the streets who are no friends of this nation but operate openly to provide aid and comfort to our sworn enemies.

I've been bit$$ing about our AG also. He must just hide under his desk and not see or hear what is going on. Looks like he is just a do nothing kind of a guy. JMO.

104 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:31 PM PST by Mr Cobol (.Liberalism isn't a political philosophy. It's a vile combination of sickness and evil—M Schiller)
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To: writer33
Thanks for the ping.

Treason? Yeah, I think it is.. All I know is that what Dean, Kerry, et al, are spewing can't be helping America win the war on terror, their words DO aid and comfort the ENEMY, and those same words endanger our troops. How many terrorists have been emboldened, encouraged to keep fighting, to KILL our troops by the traitorous rats words of defeatism?

Maybe we, won't, can't really know that.. but anyone in their right mind must know that if you were a terrorist those words of defeatism by a Presidential candidate, US Senator, etc., that keep reverberating via the rat media and the enemies own media, would encourage you to keep fighting, keep killing, would cause the enemy to believe that America won't stick it out. Every time those rats keep raising their white flags it breaths new breath into a Terrorist will to keep going. To me anyone that gives a Terrorist a 2nd breath to keep on killing American Troops is a damn Traitor!
105 posted on 12/08/2005 10:01:06 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: smoothsailing

I read your post #20

Thanks Brother

IF America does not stand up now
the men and women in the service today
will suffer the same fate as we did.

It's either your for our men and women
in the military or against them.

It's that simple.


106 posted on 12/08/2005 10:01:21 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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To: writer33

:o)

That's the writer in ya! Get caught up in the story! Glad you got your ping list back and running!


107 posted on 12/08/2005 10:02:22 PM PST by luvie (QUITTING IS NOT AN EXIT STRATEGY IN IRAQ...)
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To: varmintxer

It sure does make one wonder what it takes to get a charge of sedition or treason levied , especially in a time of war.


108 posted on 12/08/2005 10:02:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeaBiscuit

That about sums it up for me. Good stuff. You should write for a living.


109 posted on 12/08/2005 10:02:46 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: writer33; LUV W
Hey, I started this thread, and I say y'all can do whatever ya want! :)

(Except that diaper stuff-YUCK)

110 posted on 12/08/2005 10:03:58 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Roscoe Karns

Hey Roscoe, you must have a lot of time on your hands...

Keep up the good work.


111 posted on 12/08/2005 10:06:35 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: smoothsailing

Basically, I am tired of paying for healthcare. In this rotten Bush economy, I thought I'd just simply ask people for money so I can afford a doctor visit and my prescription drugs.

It just seems far easier than lobbying Congress and having taxes raised to pay for a newer, more improved national healthcare.

:)


112 posted on 12/08/2005 10:06:45 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Roscoe Karns; bitt; speedy; Chena; hispanarepublicana; Mudboy Slim; Tijeras_Slim; Lazamataz; ...

HYSTERICAL POST at #11


BWAHAHAHAHAHA!




Thanks for the ping, Chris!


113 posted on 12/08/2005 10:07:00 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Travis McGee

Wall. Blindfold. Cigarette.


PULL


114 posted on 12/08/2005 10:08:40 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: smoothsailing; writer33

LOL!!!! Got kinda icky there, huh?


115 posted on 12/08/2005 10:10:08 PM PST by luvie (QUITTING IS NOT AN EXIT STRATEGY IN IRAQ...)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk, Thanks for keeping this out in the public.

I pray you (we) can smarten up voters faster than the NEA can dumb them down about this.

Kerry should be removed from the Senate immediately.


116 posted on 12/08/2005 10:10:42 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: writer33
Why bother asking for money?

Demand what you want from your doctor and pharmacist, it's your birthright as a Democrat! :)

117 posted on 12/08/2005 10:11:44 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: writer33
Thanks, but I'll leave that job up to Pro's like yourself. :) My little diatribe was inspired by pure anger towards the Traitor's indifference to the safety of our Troops and America. They just don't give a rat's a** because their phony careers are more important.
118 posted on 12/08/2005 10:11:58 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: All
"Yes, indeed- John Kerry thinks it's 1971 all over again. Yesterday, on "Face the Nation"
John Kerry once again slams American troops- Check it out-

"And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the-of-the historical customs, religious customs."

Here is the transcript for "Face the Nation"-

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_120405.pdf

You will find this statement at the bottom of page 4 and the top of page 5.



"When former Attorney General Ramsey Clark isn’t defending Saddam Hussein, or giving speeches for the crypto-Stalinist International ANSWER, he’s acting as counsel for the Palestine Liberation Organization, trying to prevent families of murdered Jews from collecting on judgments against the PLO."
Little Green Footballs ^ | November 28, 2005 | Charles Johnson


From Kerry's "The New Soldier":

Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you can’t live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you won’t have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you won’t have to deal with having been there.

- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time.
And those things happen."


Free online version of
hanoi kerry's playbook "The New Soldier"
You can read it online right now.







119 posted on 12/08/2005 10:12:25 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On FReepers" who scream and howl "Move On Tonk, Get Over It")
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To: NormsRevenge

If this is part of the 'new tone' W talked about, I'm not for it.


120 posted on 12/08/2005 10:12:45 PM PST by Mr Cobol (.Liberalism isn't a political philosophy. It's a vile combination of sickness and evil—M Schiller)
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