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Court: Social Security Can Be Used To Pay Debt (Student Loan Payment)
P/MSNBC ^
| 12/07/2005
| AP
Posted on 12/07/2005 11:30:38 AM PST by TCats
WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday that the government can seize a persons Social Security benefits to pay old student loans.
Retiring Justice Sandra Day OConnor wrote the decision that went against a disabled man, James Lockhart, who had sued claiming he needed all of his $874 monthly check to pay for food and medication.
Lockhart, 67, a former postal worker who now lives in public housing in Seattle, has heart disease, diabetes and other health problems. He has about $77,000 in student loan debt....
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: credit; debt; lockhartvus; ruling; scotus; socialsecurity; studentloan
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I wonder why they didn't try to collect this long ago through regular collection means. This guy was a Postal Service employee and I think he would have been subject to a collection action.
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:30:39 AM PST
by
TCats
To: TCats
Lockhart, 67, a former postal worker who now lives in public housing in Seattle, has heart disease, diabetes and other health problems.I sprained my ankle. Can I skip a month on my mortgage?
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:32:22 AM PST
by
wideawake
To: wideawake
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:33:04 AM PST
by
samadams2000
(Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
To: TCats
seems common sense to me. The guy paid a lot of money to get edumacated, and all he got was a postal service job????
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:34:28 AM PST
by
Pondman88
To: TCats
seems common sense to me. The guy paid a lot of money to get edumacated, and all he got was a postal service job????
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:34:30 AM PST
by
Pondman88
To: TCats
Just in time for the Pepsi generation to retire...
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:35:56 AM PST
by
Mikey_1962
(I grew up in a slum, when I got to college it had become a "ghetto".)
To: TCats
This is why both social security AND government subsidized education should be done away with. (I had to think long and hard before omitting the Postal Service from my list).
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:37:00 AM PST
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
To: TCats
If this guy is 67, he was college-age around 50 years ago. If he amassed a $77,000 college loan debt back when college costs averaged less than $1000 a year, he must have gotten some mighty fine education. Or else somethings wrong with this story.
Like, he could have gotten his doctorate at an Ivy League college and had money to spare back in 1955. So why'd he wind up working for the post office and living in the projects?
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:37:23 AM PST
by
Kenton
(To my friends who celebrate Jesus' birth, Merry Christmas. To the rest of you, have a nice day off.)
To: TCats
Argh!
Not am I only paying down a 6 figure student loan, but I get to pay down someone else's student load.
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:38:16 AM PST
by
tfecw
(It's for the children)
To: Kenton
The federal student loan system was not in place in 1955. It started after Sputnik.
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To: Kenton; All
That was my take as well. The article doesn't give enough background as to when the loans were obtained, what the guy actually studied/degrees he got, and what prior collection steps the Gov't took. Does anyone else have more info?
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:40:39 AM PST
by
TCats
To: Kenton
Two words: "interest" and "penalties".
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:42:12 AM PST
by
steve-b
(A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
To: TCats
I wonder why they didn't try to collect this long ago through regular collection means.
Because it isn't about student loans. This opens the door for politicians to take money from social security.
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:42:22 AM PST
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: mugs99
This opens the door for politicians to take money from social security. That door has already been not only opened, but unbolted from its hinges and taken out of the doorway.
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:43:21 AM PST
by
steve-b
(A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
To: Kenton
If he amassed a $77,000
The interest owed is far more than the original student loan.
.
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:45:39 AM PST
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: TCats
Retiring Justice Sandra Day OConnor wrote the decision that went against a disabled man, James Lockhart, who had sued claiming he needed all of his $874 monthly check to pay for food and medication. Ok, take his SS check and give him a welfare check. It's just creative accounting
To: TCats
A litte more of the details of this story:
Preventing the withholding of Social Security benefits for such long-term debtors, argues the government, "would deprive the Secretary (of Education) of the most efficient (and, in many instances, the only) means of collecting delinquent debt to the United States."
Lockhart received four college loans between 1984 and 1989, and by 2002 he had failed to repay about $80,000 in debts. Starting that year, up to $143.10 a month in Social Security was being withheld from his monthly disability check, totaling about $3,555. In addition to the time limitations, Lockhart also claims he had filed for bankruptcy and therefore was protected from the withholding penalty.
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:46:41 AM PST
by
TCats
To: A Ruckus of Dogs
Looks like that's what they were doing. He was on disability and they were taking part of it to repay although the amount they were taking wouldn't cover the interest let alone repayment - See my prior post.
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posted on
12/07/2005 11:49:36 AM PST
by
TCats
To: mugs99
This opens the door for students now who know well that they won't ever collect any social security to take student loans in exchange for all the cash they are forced to fork over to the previous generation of slackers and embezzlers.
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