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Sami Al-Arian not guilty on 8 of 17 counts
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Posted on 12/06/2005 12:40:23 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

There it is. Turn on the news it should be on right about now. His co-conspirators too.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alarian; caca; gwot; ij; islamicjihad; jihadinamerica; pij; sami; samialarian; samibeatstherap; terrorism; terrortrials; usf; wot
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To: Bushbacker1

See my post 96.

I love the picture..it adds the needed emphasis!


181 posted on 12/06/2005 8:20:54 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (If Iran has nukes, to hell with my diet!)
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To: demkicker

Good thing I put my flamesuit on. Hint.


182 posted on 12/06/2005 8:39:52 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: oceanview

Ridiculous rationale.

Yes...calling Florida et all a "state of the axis of evil"
DOES cover all Forida.

First...let me say AGAIN ..AND AS OTHERS HAVE SAID AGAIN..
Tampa/St Pete is very left. Also, they did not acquit...they could not convict on some charges and it was a hung jury on other charges.


183 posted on 12/06/2005 8:43:43 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (If Iran has nukes, to hell with my diet!)
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To: billva

Excellant post. And he is not out yet and there was a hung jury on many counts.
The Florida is 'evil" bashing was just so immature and stupid. Why don't you Maroons pound salt?
(next time I'll give you my opinion.ha.)


184 posted on 12/06/2005 8:47:49 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (If Iran has nukes, to hell with my diet!)
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To: marron
War is the circumstance that exists when normal civil law is insufficient to contain a conflict...

Most elegantly stated.

185 posted on 12/06/2005 8:49:58 PM PST by LK44-40
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

What does a "Not Guilty" verdict mean?


186 posted on 12/06/2005 8:53:42 PM PST by sport
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To: sport

Not guilty means the prosecution could not prove its case beyond reasonable doubt. Acquited is "he didn't do it".
Hey, legal beagles..please advise if this is incorrect.


187 posted on 12/06/2005 9:00:40 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (If Iran has nukes, to hell with my diet!)
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To: billva
With some people there is no limit to bigotry or ignorance!

Oh, c'mon do you really think I was being serious?

188 posted on 12/06/2005 10:40:47 PM PST by montag813
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

#1 example of why those of us WITH A BRAIN need to report when called to sit on a jury!


189 posted on 12/06/2005 10:46:01 PM PST by Humidston (Sweet dreams, TC. Save me a seat, ok?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

If he is not guilty on 8 of 17 counts, hang him only 9 times.


190 posted on 12/06/2005 11:13:06 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
1995 : (INVESTIGATION OF TERROR CHARITIES IS SHUT DOWN : ICP / WISE / IJ / ICP / SAMI AL ARIAN / VA JIHAD) The Clinton administration shut down a 1995 investigation of Islamic charities, concerned that a public probe would expose Saudi Arabia's suspected ties to a global money-laundering operation that raised millions for anti-Israel terrorists, federal officials told The Washington Times.
Law enforcement authorities and others close to the aborted investigation said the State Department pressed federal officials to pull agents off the previously undisclosed probe after the charities were targeted in the diversion of cash to groups that fund terrorism.
In the aborted 1995 investigation, the FBI said in a sealed affidavit that the Islamic Concern Project and World and Islam Studies Enterprise — working with charities in Virginia — committed fraud and "served as a vehicle by which [Islamic Jihad] raised funds to support terrorist activities in the occupied territories." In that probe, investigators found that checks drawn on a bank account of the International Committee for Palestine had been cashed by people in the Middle East. They said the checks had been signed by Mr. Al-Arian. -- "Clinton Axed Terror Probe," http://www.geocities.com/johnathanrgalt/Clinton_axed_terror_probe.html
191 posted on 12/06/2005 11:31:46 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: IonImplantGuru

This is happening in the western U.S. also. Zillions of people are retiring from California and infecting nearby states, changing the demographics toward the left.

The property values are so high in California that people can sell their homes, pay off their mortgages, and go pay cash for a nicer home at half the price in another state. Almost all my neighbors are relocated Californians who brought their political views with them to this once-conservative area.


192 posted on 12/07/2005 12:33:25 AM PST by baa39
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

BTTT


193 posted on 12/07/2005 12:34:34 AM PST by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Ramius
He's not going to be lynched. But don't kid yourself... this is a loss. "Not guilty" is not the same as "innocent". It just means the prosecutor didn't prove the case. Justice isn't always perfect. Like now

Actually, there were months worth of evidence and proof. I think this was a form of jury nullification, remember there are a lot of appeasers.

194 posted on 12/07/2005 1:18:05 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: demkicker

Read my post 89. Might shed some light on how I feel about the jury.


195 posted on 12/07/2005 4:12:34 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: jveritas

"Was it a liberal Hate Bush city?"Unfortunately we have a lot of dems in positions of influence,and Al Arian has received a lot of support from the StPete Times.The best case scenario at this point is that he's tried on other charges and found guilty.Worst case scenario,the government decides not to pursue the other charges and he gets his job back at USF.


196 posted on 12/07/2005 7:16:13 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: Minus_The_Bear
>I give this country 15 years max

Get real. Look around!
Did you live through the 60s?
Don't you remember

riots in the streets,
SDS bombing buildings,
drug use encouraged . . .

The country SURVIVED
all that. Pretty easily.
And, at the same time,

crushed the Soviets
in tough geopolitics.
Look around today.

MOST Americans
are reasonably happy.
The youth is in gear.

There's NO world power
like the Soviets to fight.
Business is booming.

Sure. Things ain't perfect.
Never are, never will be.
But you must be NUTS

to think the COUNTRY
will be undone by the crap
afflicting us NOW

when we have survived
SO MUCH WORSE that's come our way
for two hundred years.

197 posted on 12/07/2005 7:18:10 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: ovrtaxt

Do you know what evidence was not admitted? The taped conversations that were admitted into evidence occurred in 1994 and 1995. The shut down of the investigation into Islamic charities by the Clinton administration occurred in 1995 (see post 191). Hmmmmm Let’s see. What big event occurred in the United States in 1995? Oh, yeah. It was the Oklahoma City bombing of the Murrah Federal Building. What big cover up occurred? Oh, yeah, the connection of McVeigh and Nichols to Middle Eastern terrorists. Is it possible that Al Arian was tape-recorded talking about that attack or talking about the planning of that attack? Is this maybe the evidence not admitted that you are referring to? Just speculation on my part but the property manager involved in the bombing has been investigated for ties to the PLO. (As mentioned in“The Third Terrorist” by Jayna Davis)


198 posted on 12/07/2005 9:17:57 AM PST by Nancie Drew
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To: STARWISE

Sami Al Arian may have been acquitted in Florida, but I have no doubt that he has been convicted in Tel Aviv. It is only a matter of time before Al-Arian feels the "long arm of the people of Israel".


199 posted on 12/07/2005 9:23:51 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: marron
WONDERFULLY WELL SAID:

"It is very important to declare war. This is not for the purpose of informing your enemy that you are at war with him, he already knows he is at war with you. This is instead necessary to put your own people on notice that for the time being, until a defined threat has been put down, you are in a state of emergency, and you are going to do whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. Your actions will be limited not by normal civil law, but will be designed to meet the needs of the emergency, limited only by moral and practical constraints.
200 posted on 12/07/2005 9:47:39 AM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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