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Why Fight Over Intelligent Design?
Foxnews.com/Cato ^ | November 22, 2005 | Andrew J. Coulson

Posted on 12/06/2005 11:55:32 AM PST by MRMEAN

Andrew J. Coulson is director of the Center for Educational Freedom at the Cato Institute.

Supporters of the theory of human origins known as "intelligent design" want it taught alongside the theory of evolution. Opponents will do anything to keep it out of science classrooms. The disagreement is clear.

But why does everyone assume that we must settle it through an ideological death-match in the town square?

Intelligent design contends that life on Earth is too complex to have evolved naturally, and so must be the product of an unspecified intelligent designer. Most adherents of this idea would undoubtedly be happy just to have it taught to their own children, and most of my fellow evolutionists presumably believe they should have that right. So why are we fighting?

We're fighting because the institution of public schooling forces us to, by permitting only one government-sanctioned explanation of human origins. The only way for one side to have its views reflected in the official curriculum is at the expense of the other side.

This manufactured conflict serves no public good. After all, does it really matter if some Americans believe intelligent design is a valid scientific theory while others see it as a Lamb of God in sheep's clothing? Surely not. While there are certainly issues on which consensus is key — respect for the rule of law and the rights of fellow citizens, tolerance of differing viewpoints, etc. — the origin of species is not one of them.

The sad truth is that state-run schooling has created a multitude of similarly pointless battles. Nothing is gained, for instance, by compelling conformity on school prayer, random drug testing, the set of religious holidays that are worth observing, or the most appropriate forms of sex education.

Not only are these conflicts unnecessary, they are socially corrosive. Every time we fight over the official government curriculum, it breeds more resentment and animosity within our communities. These public-schooling-induced battles have done much to inflame tensions between Red and Blue America.

But while Americans bicker incessantly over pedagogical teachings, we seldom fight over theological ones. The difference, of course, is that the Bill of Rights precludes the establishment of an official religion. Our founding fathers were prescient in calling for the separation of church and state, but failed to foresee the dire social consequences of entangling education and state. Those consequences are now all too apparent.

Fortunately, there is a way to end the cycle of educational violence: parental choice. Why not reorganize our schools so that parents can easily get the sort of education they value for their own children without having to force it on their neighbors?

Doing so would not be difficult. A combination of tax relief for middle income families and financial assistance for low-income families would give everyone access to the independent education marketplace. A few strokes of the legislative pen could thus bring peace along the entire "education front" of America's culture war.

But let's be honest. At least a few Americans see our recurrent battles over the government curriculum as a price worth paying. Even in the "land of the free," there is a temptation to seize the apparatus of state schooling and use it to proselytize our neighbors with our own ideas or beliefs.

In addition to being socially divisive and utterly incompatible with American ideals, such propagandizing is also ineffectual. After generations in which evolution has been public schooling's sole explanation of human origins, only a third of Americans consider it a theory well-supported by scientific evidence. By contrast, 51 percent of Americans believe "God created human beings in their present form."

These findings should give pause not only to evolutionists but to supporters of intelligent design as well. After all, if public schooling has made such a hash of teaching evolution, why expect it to do any better with I.D.?

Admittedly, the promotion of social harmony is an unusual justification for replacing public schools with parent-driven education markets. Most arguments for parental choice rest on the private sector's superior academic performance or cost-effectiveness. But when you stop and think about it, doesn't the combination of these advantages suggest that free markets would be a far more intelligent design for American education?

This article appeared on FOXNews.com on November 18, 2005.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
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To: R. Scott

My Dad was a geologist, prayed on his knees and was always late. Mom said it was because he measured time in millions of years. If I ever get smart enough to be a bible translator, the geological record will be in the BuglerTex Version of Genesis where it belongs.


121 posted on 12/06/2005 2:39:25 PM PST by BuglerTex
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Are the ones who don't believe in evolution stupid fundies, too?

Huh? I don't follow. Why the inflammatory language?

122 posted on 12/06/2005 2:45:02 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: bahblahbah
"Trying to claim that introducing ID ammounts to dumbing down science standards is silly."

Spell check is your friend when commenting on dumbing down.

123 posted on 12/06/2005 2:45:21 PM PST by Ben Chad
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To: Blood of Tyrants
So things DO accidentally and naturally "derandomise" themselves?

Of course. How else do diamonds form from a clump of graphite in nature? There are so many obvious examples in nature (e.g. crystallization) that I cannot fathom how someone could ask this question without being disingenuous.

124 posted on 12/06/2005 2:56:36 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: BuglerTex
Mom said it was because he measured time in millions of years.

“But honey, it was just a flash in geological time!”
125 posted on 12/06/2005 3:00:07 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: tortoise
How else do diamonds form from a clump of graphite in nature?

Angels personally assemble diamonds, atom by atom. At least, that would explain A) why my wife is so fascinated with them, and; B) why they're so damn expensive.

126 posted on 12/06/2005 3:06:02 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
So things DO accidentally and naturally "derandomise" themselves?

Sure, all the time. You've been given obvious examples like crystalization, but there are many others. Hydrodynamic sorting, for instance. Dump a bunch of new sand on a beach. The wave action will sort the grains non-randomly so that smaller grain move up the beach and larger grains remain down the beach, simply because the waves progressively lose energy, and therefore sediment carrying capacity, as they move up the beach. Similarly with the sand in a stream bed.

127 posted on 12/06/2005 3:07:56 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: bahblahbah
"Talk about the article which is about ending the political debate by ending the public education system. That should be something we all could agree on."

One would think. But, it doesn't appear to be anywhere even near universal. Why is that, do you suppose?

128 posted on 12/06/2005 3:12:32 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It was written 2000 years ago that the time would come when men denied even that they were created.


Where?


129 posted on 12/06/2005 3:16:20 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: MRMEAN
The purpose of higher education isn't to teach people what to think or believe but to give students the information necessary for their prospective careers. There's no shortage of opportunities in life for a person to delve into any kind of philosophical, theological, superstitious, bizarre, cultish, alternative, or mythical ignorance they choose to be brainwashed into but, their brief period in higher education is their one chance to get the tools they need for their career. Brainwashed charlatans who insist upon cramming their bizarre superstitions and cultish mythic beliefs down peoples throats while they are trying to get an education in science and biology must be resisted at all costs.
130 posted on 12/06/2005 3:30:15 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You mean physical laws like Newton's second law of thermodynamics that states that ALL THINGS will naturally move to a state of less energy and less order unless acted upon by specifically applied energy?

Firstly, the Second Law of Thermodynamics is not even close to what you stated above. The way you stated it actually contradicts the First law. Also, the Second Law makes no reference to a strange, nebulous concept of "specifically applied energy."

The Second Law simply states that isolated systems increase in entropy over time. If you think you have a novel new argument for why the Second Law contradicts mainstream biology, please present it. Keep in mind that even Answers in Genesis, everyone's favorite biblical literalist site, acknowledges that arguments against evolution from the 2nd Law have no merit.

Second, There's no such thing as "Newton's second law of thermodynamics," and the fact that you called it this makes me even more confident that you are way out of your league. Carnot published "Reflections on the Motive Power of Fire" in 1824. Newton died about a hundred years prior to that.
131 posted on 12/06/2005 4:06:43 PM PST by aNYCguy
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To: MRMEAN
but failed to foresee the dire social consequences of entangling education and state.

What is he blathering about? They certainly did.

Amendment X 
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
 nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
 or to the people. 

132 posted on 12/06/2005 4:20:49 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: Regicide

If your nose was any different, you would not be able to taste food. Most of the taste is in the smell. That's why you can't taste food when you have that cold you were complaining about.


133 posted on 12/06/2005 4:57:48 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"They absolutely DO NOT want to allow ANYTHING other than evolution to be taught in schools Science Class.

There fixed it. Teach ID in philosophy if you want. Or History

Ancient History

134 posted on 12/06/2005 5:09:50 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: aNYCguy; Dimensio
There's no such thing as "Newton's second law of thermodynamics,"

Is to too

"Give 'im a drop o' rum to warm 'is belly as 'e passes over" - Robert Newton (1905-1956)

135 posted on 12/06/2005 6:10:18 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( the Wedge Document ... offers a message of hope for Muslims - Mustafa Akyol)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The only outcome evolutionists will accept is to have its views reflected in the official curriculum at the expense of the other side.

Totally incorrect!! And, not even intelligent.

This proposal offers a solution we both can accept. You teach your children superstition such as ID or creationism (and call it anything you like) and I will teach my children science.

My children will go to MIT, Columbia, and Stanford. (OK, one already went to Columbia and one already went to Stanford).

And your children will be working as clerks in a convenience store because that is what they will be qualified for.

Works for both of us. Everybody's happy. And indeed, we need convenience store clerks when my kids need to get a late night snack.

136 posted on 12/06/2005 6:14:54 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine (Horse feces (929 citations) vs ID (0 citations) and horse feces wins!!!!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; aNYCguy; Dimensio
You mean physical laws like Newton's second law of thermodynamics that states that ALL THINGS will naturally move to a state of less energy and less order unless acted upon by specifically applied energy? That law? Seems to contradict evolution.

So many factual errors in just 3 sentences.

The 2nd law of thermodynamics was not invented by Newton. It was developed by Rudolf Clausius (of the Clausius-Claperyon equation) in 1888.

The 2nd law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with "order". That is a lay term used to try to explain the 2nd law to those without a physics background. The 2nd law states that delta S >= 0, which means the entropy will remain constant (adiabatic) or increase in all thermodynamic processes. The entropy is defined as Planck's constant times Omega, where Omega is the cumulative sum of the density of states, also called the partition function.

In lay terms, the 2nd law states that nature will tend toward a more probable state from a less probable state.

Moreover, the 2nd law is derived from systems that are in a heat bath or in a system that can exchange particles in a controlled fashion. The mathematics is called a canonical ensemble.

The signficance is that the entropy can increase locally so long as it does not increase globally. This latter point is essential. Only the global entropy obeys the 2nd law. Examples abound. The engine in your car converts the heat of combustion (modest entropy) to work (meaning motion of the car) which is low entropy. This would seem to violate the 2nd law!!! But, the reason that it doesn't is that your engine also produces lower temperature heat as exhaust, which is very high entropy. The net effect is an entropy increase. But, still, work was done which converted heat to work.

Since the earth is heated by the Sun, which provides modest levels of entropy, the 2nd law is not violated at all by the decreasing entropy of life (increasing complexity).

137 posted on 12/06/2005 6:41:46 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine (Horse feces (929 citations) vs ID (0 citations) and horse feces wins!!!!!)
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To: MRMEAN

brilliant


138 posted on 12/06/2005 6:50:46 PM PST by bigLusr (Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Ah-har!


139 posted on 12/06/2005 7:08:12 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: aNYCguy

So what if I missed the exact wording? Thing do NOT decrease in entropy over time naturally. No explosion has ever produced a laptop computer. No tornado has ever assembled a Rolls Royce. And no random combination of molecules has ever produced life. What is the minimum number of amino acid molecules required to make up the simlest virus? A few thousand? I really have no idea but for the sake of argument lets call it 1000. The number of total possible combinations is 1000! which equates to 4.023872e+2567. Do the math. Even if you could try a trillion, trillion combinations per second, your chances of coming up with a plausable, self replicating, stable virus are mathmatically ZERO even if you considered the universe a billion times older than the current claims.

The fact that you strain on a gnat while swallowing a whale tells me that you are so dedicated to making sure that your personal BELIEFS are impressed on everyone cloud your judgement to the facts that evolution CANNOT and WILL NOT ever be proven. If you had half as much belief in God as you do evolution, we would not be having this discussion.


140 posted on 12/06/2005 7:29:57 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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