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Coloradan faces jail for refusal to show ID
The Washington Times ^ | 11-30-05 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 12/05/2005 12:57:58 PM PST by JOAT

DENVER -- Deborah Davis' refusal to show her identification to federal police at a bus stop has turned her into a cause celebre among privacy-rights advocates.

Mrs. Davis, a 50-year-old Arvada, Colo., grandmother of five, was handcuffed, placed in a police car and ticketed for two petty offenses by Federal Protective Services officers who were checking passengers' identification Sept. 26 aboard a Regional Transportation District (RTD) bus at the Federal Center stop.

..< SNIP >..Several things bothered her about the ID checks. She wasn't entering a federal building or even leaving the bus. The officers barely glanced at the passengers' ID cards and didn't check them against a master list. The whole exercise struck her as "just Big Brother watching you," she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: yourpapersplease
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1 posted on 12/05/2005 12:58:00 PM PST by JOAT
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To: JOAT

Maybe you should ask her "media consultant".


2 posted on 12/05/2005 1:00:57 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: JOAT

GO, GRANNY, GO!......


3 posted on 12/05/2005 1:01:30 PM PST by Red Badger (Dan rather didn't say "Courage", he said "Couric"..................)
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To: JOAT

Attitude.


4 posted on 12/05/2005 1:02:02 PM PST by billhilly (John Murtha, ex Marine. Leading the charge of the Demoquits.)
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To: JOAT

I think she's got a bigger pair of stones than our current Republican "leadership."


6 posted on 12/05/2005 1:02:48 PM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: JOAT

Wasn't there a supreme court case on this issue just a few years ago?


7 posted on 12/05/2005 1:03:35 PM PST by floydibanezer
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To: JOAT
Posted a week ago when it was news.

So9

8 posted on 12/05/2005 1:03:36 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: JOAT

I agree with her. Perhaps she is the Rosa Parks of this period in time.


9 posted on 12/05/2005 1:03:43 PM PST by Millie
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To: JOAT
A legally-valid search requires probable cause. Or at least, that's what following stare decisis would require.
10 posted on 12/05/2005 1:04:32 PM PST by sourcery (Either the Constitution trumps stare decisis, or else the Constitution is a dead letter.)
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To: JOAT
I am with Granny on this one. Maybe if she was going to the Federal Center I could understand the need for a check but she wasn't. Maybe they need to rethink the procedure and only ID people getting off the bus.
11 posted on 12/05/2005 1:04:47 PM PST by Gator101
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To: JOAT

Ook?


12 posted on 12/05/2005 1:06:36 PM PST by Uriah_lost (We aren't pro-war, we're PRO-VICTORY!)
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To: coloradan

LOL, just read the title and instantly thought it was you.


13 posted on 12/05/2005 1:08:25 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: floydibanezer
In that case (Nevada), the SCOTUS ruled the police had probable cause.

This doesn't seem to meet that test.

14 posted on 12/05/2005 1:09:12 PM PST by pierrem15
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To: Millie

"I agree with her. Perhaps she is the Rosa Parks of this period in time."

LOL!! Sorry, that was just funny. You and the folks over at DU. Because it happened on a bus, naturally the most base thinkers come up with "Rosa Parks". Excellent job of trivializing Mrs. Parks contribution to this nation.

Don't want to show your ID? Don't take a bus through a secure area. Despise the government that much? Stay off their property. See? It's not difficult.

I thought FR was not in favor of staged street theater by left-wingers. Guess not.


15 posted on 12/05/2005 1:11:23 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: sourcery

Or no cause needed when accessing a restricted facility. Not saying that's the case here. Contrast this to Russia where documents can be demanded anytime, anywhere for any reason.. I was there 12/2001 and with a dark-haired Russian girl who could have been mistaken for a chechyen, together we looked a bit out of place and when we went out, no more than 100 feet from our building the militsya surrounded us to peruse our documents. No cause needed other than the way we looked. So, this isn't the end of the world, nor the beginning of the end...


16 posted on 12/05/2005 1:12:32 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: JOAT

If you can't be IDed on a bus, then you can't be bag-searched getting on the subway, either. Both cases have a public conveyance, the right to travel, and no probable cause. Ironically, profiling could cause these to meet the probable cause requirement.


17 posted on 12/05/2005 1:13:55 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: L98Fiero

Da, Comrade! The State must be secure! All loyal subjects must support this!


18 posted on 12/05/2005 1:15:06 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: Servant of the 9
Posted a week ago when it was news.

So9

Not under this title.

(But I'm sure you already know this since your type fervently hopes to make people look stupid by linking smart-ass 'already posted' comments at every opportunity.)

Thanks anyway for your 'insightful' comment, Post Police.

19 posted on 12/05/2005 1:16:21 PM PST by JOAT
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To: JOAT
We should not have to carry papers. If there is no cause for police attention an ID should not be required for presentation.

What New York is doing makes a lot more sense. This sound like someone promoted Eric Cartman to security chief.

20 posted on 12/05/2005 1:17:23 PM PST by Tribune7
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