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U.S. Army report: Israel can't stop Iran nukes
World Tribune ^ | December 5, 2005

Posted on 12/05/2005 11:16:49 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

Geopolitical limitations render Israel's air force militarily incapable of halting Iran's nuclear weapons program according to a new report published the by U.S. Army War College.

The report asserts Israel lacks the military capability to locate and destroy Iranian nuclear assets. The report said the Israel Air Force cannot operate at such long distances from its bases.

"The Israeli Air Force has formidable capabilities and enjoys unchallenged supremacy vis-à-vis the other Middle East air powers, but Israel has no aircraft carriers and it cannot use airbases in other Middle East states," the report entitled "Getting Ready for a Nuclear-Ready Iran," said. "Therefore its operational capabilities are reduced when the targets are located far from its territory." [On Sunday, Israeli Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz warned that diplomatic pressure would not stop Iran's nuclear weapons program, Middle East Newsline reported. Halutz was one of three senior Israeli officials who warned that Iran would soon be able to turn into a nuclear power.]

In an article authored by Shlomo Brom, former head of air force strategic planning, the report said Israel's deep-strike air capability was based on the F-15I and F-16C/D aircraft. At a range of more than 600 kilometers, Brom said, Israel could not sustain an air campaign. Iran is about 1,000 kilometers from Israel.

"It is possible to determine that at long ranges — more then 600 kilometers — the IAF is capable of a few surgical strikes, but it is not capable of a sustained air campaign against a full array of targets," the report said.

An Israeli air attack on Iran must also include such support aircraft as air refueling, electronic countermeasures, support, communication, and rescue, the report said. The mission would also require precision intelligence.

Brom said Israel's intelligence and military community was divided over the Iranian threat. He said military intelligence regards Iran as determined to destroy Israel. The Mossad and National Security Council see Teheran as preoccupied with national defense and regime survival.

"While the first school assumes no political pressure can force Iran to stop its military nuclear program, the other school believes that political pressure can be effective in at least delaying the nuclear program significantly," the report said. "The second school believes that a nuclear Iran with a different regime will not pose a high risk to Israel and can be easily deterred."

The report said the Bushehr nuclear power plant was vulnerable to attacks but does not constitute a key element of the military nuclear program. As a result, the destruction of Bushehr would not have a significant effect on Iran's military program.

Brom said Iranian nuclear assets are located between 1,500 and 1,700 kilometers from Israel. The report expressed doubts whether such Israeli allies as India and Turkey would allow Israel to launch a military strike from their territory.

"This means that the Israeli attack aircraft would have to take off from air bases in Israel, fly 1,500-1,700 kilometers to the targets, destroy them, and then fly back 1,500-1,700 kilometers," the report said.

The Israel Air Force has 25 F-15I and 137 F-16C/D fighter-bombers. The air force has already received more than 20 F-16Is, with longer range on the F-15I, but the report said the F-15I aircraft contains greater capabilities at long ranges.

The report said the F-15I has an operational radius of 1,270 kilometers. The F-16I has an operational radius of 2,100 kilometers while that of the F-16C/D is 925 kilometers.

But the report said the real operational radius was shorter because the planes would have to fly at low altitude to avoid radar detection. Brom said the Israeli aircraft could avoid Iranian air defense but would be detected.

"In any case, any Israeli attack on an Iranian nuclear target would be a very complex operation in which a relatively large number of attack aircraft and support aircraft — interceptors, ECM [electronic counter-measures] aircraft, refuelers, and rescue aircraft — would participate," the report said. "The conclusion is that Israel could attack only a few Iranian targets and not as part of a sustainable operation over time, but as a one time surprise operation."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; axisofevil; conformaltanks; iaf; iran; irannukes; israel; nukes; tankers; warcollege
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To: Waverunner
Your thinking appears to me to be on target... The goal is not to conduct air strikes on Iran, rather, the goal is to prevent Iran from acquiring and using nuclear weapons against Israel. With Israel's very existence at stake, the strategic thinking can not afford to be limited to conventional, direct military engagements.

Unfortunately, the same thing can be said about the threat that the US faces from its Islamofascist adversaries, who will not be constrained by conventional thinking or deterred by traditional means of defense.

81 posted on 12/05/2005 12:18:27 PM PST by Zeppo
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To: West Coast Conservative

Israel has a population of only a little over 6 million, including the enemies that our State Dept. orders Israel to accomodate and give free run through its neighborhoods.

Iran has a population of over 68 million, and it has oil. It also has the military support of two much larger countries.

Israel shouldn't do western Europe's dirty work or continue to be the unreasonable, inappropriate focus of the world that hates it. Nor should we. Israel can make much better use of its small revenues than to plan and launch thousands of air sorties. IMO, Israel should build the greatest defense and offense and let western Europe worry about being within range of Iran.

Iran postures at Israel but will go after western Europe. Iran might even lob something at Israel to further cow western Europe. But there is nothing for Iran in wasting Israel. Western Europe is the real target and should put the Iran government and military down.


82 posted on 12/05/2005 12:19:28 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: Leisler

They're going to need those pilots and jets in the days following an attack on Iran. To be without will invite Arab "adventurism"


84 posted on 12/05/2005 12:21:55 PM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: jslade
Ya know just reading the various scenarios, there does seem to have one avenue that no one has expressed....
Granted Israel has limited long range capabilities... So how 'bout we give 'em the capibility?

Like a dozen B-52's from ole Davis Monthan

That would definitely provide a deterrent if not a real big message
85 posted on 12/05/2005 12:25:25 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: ExcursionGuy84

Loan Israel a carrier. Over here in Bremerton, WA we have three or four in mothballs. Let em have one of these that are simply going to rust away anyway.


86 posted on 12/05/2005 12:26:35 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: Robe

Good idea. Used to fly the Buffs.


87 posted on 12/05/2005 12:27:05 PM PST by jslade ("We're surrounded. That simplifies the problem."- "Chesty" Puller, USMC)
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To: jslade


I know some guys that would do the flying duties.. interested?


88 posted on 12/05/2005 12:28:59 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Lizarde

Ah, but a preemptive strike may take many forms. Direct air bombardment of the nuclear production facilities is not the only kind of preemptive strike that can be conceived. In fact, since the Iranians have apparently dispersed and hardened those facilities, direct bombardment may be ineffective. That leaves the door open for other avenues, including, but not limited to, sabotage from within (and other forms of "work accidents"), elimination of key personnel, and various other intrigues...


89 posted on 12/05/2005 12:29:44 PM PST by Zeppo
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To: stylin19a

read this book:
Raid on the Sun : Inside Israel's Secret Campaign that Denied Saddam the Bomb (Hardcover)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0767914007/104-1862586-6483169?v=glance&n=283155

It will fill you in on all the details.

Fredo


90 posted on 12/05/2005 12:30:17 PM PST by fredo1070 (I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart.)
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To: fredo1070

Read that it was an excellent book


92 posted on 12/05/2005 12:35:27 PM PST by antihannityguy (When they come for your guns give them the ammo first)
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To: elbucko
Or in other words: If Israel was struck by three nuclear weapons from Iran, what would (A) Jimmy Carter, (B) Bill Clinton, (C) John Kerry do?

Scary, huh?

You think that's scary?

If they hold off a couple years, what would President Hillary!™ Do?

93 posted on 12/05/2005 12:39:26 PM PST by null and void (Peace on Earth. Death to the Terrorists...)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Israel is capable of doing what it needs to do. God watches over them, helping them in their time of need. God never forgets his promises.


94 posted on 12/05/2005 12:41:25 PM PST by rawhide
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To: JillValentine

And that was in 1981. A lot of sophistication has been developed by the Iranians in the meantime.

As to the question of getting at the underground and hardened sites - I'm thinking that successive nukes - delivered right on top of each other should help.


96 posted on 12/05/2005 12:47:43 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: jackson29
You mean a tanker based on the Boeing 777-200ER commercial airliner???

Hang on a second while a I transfer you over to John McCain's extension...[sarcasm on]

97 posted on 12/05/2005 12:49:16 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: fredo1070

hey...thanx


98 posted on 12/05/2005 12:50:46 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: jslade

I am PRETTY sure they have diesel submarines armed with a home grown version of the American cruise missle.

If any of the targets are withing 100 miles of the ocean, I imagine they are viable sub targets.


99 posted on 12/05/2005 12:55:01 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Big people are harder to kidnap!)
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To: oolatec
I agree but which one of them will try to stop them? I think SA and the others are more afraid of Iran than the Israeli's are. Amen.
100 posted on 12/05/2005 12:56:08 PM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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