To: David9493A
Let's see:
Catholic schools encourage parents to take an active role in their children's education.
Public schools actively fight to deny parents any role in shaping the values and goals of their children's education.
So it obviously is the schools: Catholic schools as institutions promote better values and a better educational system than public schools do.
2 posted on
12/02/2005 9:58:26 AM PST by
wideawake
To: David9493A
The parents care enough to pay for their childs education, so the parents are involved already.
3 posted on
12/02/2005 9:59:07 AM PST by
MarineBrat
(Islam/Borg - The only difference is the stolen technology level.)
To: David9493A
All The TypeDoes the title need to be changed to 'Hype'?
4 posted on
12/02/2005 10:00:19 AM PST by
radiohead
(Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
To: David9493A
Catholic schools have the luxury of being able to expel any kid they want...no questions asked.Try expelling a kid from a public school and you've got a dozen Johnnie Chochranes, and "civil rights" advocates,storming the front door.
To: David9493A
This post was a waste of time. I am the dumber for having read it. At no point in your post was there anything even resembling a coherant argument.
7 posted on
12/02/2005 10:04:07 AM PST by
jude24
("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
To: David9493A
Welcome to Free Republic!
10 posted on
12/02/2005 10:06:51 AM PST by
hc87
To: David9493A
This is nothing more than a continuation of the attempt to shift blame for failing schools to anywhere but where it belongs. My first child went to public school (believe me I did not realize what a mistake I was making)and the outcome was not at all good. The next 3 went to Catholic schools and all have college degrees, two have advanced degrees, and all are living in ways that make me proud.
13 posted on
12/02/2005 10:07:33 AM PST by
Bahbah
(Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
To: David9493A
I spent 16 years in Catholic schools. My son was in Catholic schools for 9 years. I will acknowledge that his departure wasn't voluntary, so that all cards are on the table. But I have come to the conclusion that, all too often, "Catholic" schools are just expensive private schools with a Crucifix out front. They are not what they once were and that's too bad.
When the assistant principal told my son that they "expected better from a student who was receiving financial aid", that was my "screw you" moment.
To: David9493A
From the article:
And here is the truth: Catholic schools dont always have the best teachers and certainly dont have the best facilities; and public schools dont have the worst teachers and almost always have the best facilities; yet, students in catholic and other private schools do better than students in public schools.
15 posted on
12/02/2005 10:15:54 AM PST by
rit
To: David9493A
Parents alone cannot countermand all the poor effects of a curriculum laden with PC moral relativist drivel and lacking completely some fundamental subject facts or teaching outright incorrect information to avoid offending some group or another......
Parents cannot overcome the message conveyed to kids in schools where children are socially promoted and where sucesss is measured by how good their peers feel about themselves, not by what they have mastered...
and today, despite the calls for more good people to teach, kids are too often taught by by diversity/nepotism employees who are supervised by even more highly-paid diversity/nepotism hires.
17 posted on
12/02/2005 10:55:20 AM PST by
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
To: David9493A
The answer is simple. Become Catholic and see your kids grades improve. = Ain't logic grand.
19 posted on
12/02/2005 11:01:39 AM PST by
stocksthatgoup
(Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
To: David9493A
The school is not the main reason why children succeed academically, it is more the child's parents Is that all there is to your article?
I assume there was supposed to be more since there is no period at the end.
Or maybe it's just a clump of crud.
21 posted on
12/02/2005 11:04:27 AM PST by
humblegunner
(If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
To: David9493A
22 posted on
12/02/2005 11:04:52 AM PST by
darkangel82
(Never underestimate the stupidity of government.)
To: David9493A
While the main point of the article is good, the article itself is pretty bad.
I.E. factually correct, but left to flounder on its own without back up or support which their is an obvious abundance of.
That said.
I have friends who teach in public schools ( and a couple in catholic schools).
The stories they both tell are night and day.
The parents in public schools (especially minority parents) seem to believe that it is more up to the government to take an active role in the childs education, and that since they pay taxes which pay teachers, the teachers should be able to handle everything.
Some of them don't even show up on any parent teacher night, while others refuse to believe their kids can ever fail or do bad and if they do, they pass the buck.
The catholic schools teachers describe a different, but never the less tough, attitude, where parents are actively involved and feel since they are paying, or investing in their kids education, they should assume a more active role in monitoring and being involved with the kids education.
I told my friends in the public school point blank, your union really does more harm to these kids then good, but it falls on deaf ears.
I get back most of the union talking points.
28 posted on
12/02/2005 11:19:43 AM PST by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: David9493A; NYer; lizol
Ever wonder why, in the past decades, tech schools and its graduates have been doing incredibly well compared to the nation's liberal arts universities and their graduates?
It's time to put a paradigm into proper perceptive since we're beyond hypothesis with this failed education model.
EDUCATION IS A PRODUCT LIKE ANYTHING ELSE MANKIND HAS TO OFFER TO FELLOW HUMANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When all view education as a product on the FREE MARKET in the Industry of Education, then consumers and providers will approach the education of both children and adults the same way that consumers shop for goods and services provided by suppliers and providers.
In short, the errors of Socialism don't work for the free market which includes education.
The free world has Catholics to thank for providing the Rock in which Christ builds His Kingdom on earth.
Example to shift the education industry out of the Socialist lie and into the free market paradigm:
When a disruptive child interrupts the service the school provides to the rest of the children, what's stopping the rest of the concerned parents from voting out the bully from the classroom? This democratic process isn't limited to reality TV. Furthermore, the bully in limbo being removed from the classroom doesn't necessarily have to immediately be removed from that school. The contractual service and product of education protects both instructor and pupil. When a pupil is unwilling, the instructor is free of obligation. A pupil not old enough to sign such a contract must have his or her parent or legal guardian take responsibility. When such people continue to make it impossible for such a contractual and fruitful relationship to exist, the education institution and tax paying community are right to recognize their freedom from a false responsibility or burden to educate such unruly people. Masonic errors to push their heresy onto society and into the Natural Family through forced reeducation centers and bastions of Socialism/Liberalism can go to Hell.
34 posted on
12/02/2005 12:25:07 PM PST by
SaltyJoe
(A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
To: David9493A
38 posted on
12/05/2005 7:16:06 PM PST by
tubebender
(Why is it we never have time to visit family when they are alive but can always make their funerals)
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