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Presbyterians Say Meeting in Middle East Isn't Official
New York Times ^ | Dec 2, 2005 | JODI WILGOREN

Posted on 12/02/2005 3:21:34 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter

Scrambling to maintain fragile friendships with Jewish groups, local and national officials of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) are distancing themselves from a meeting in Lebanon between a Hezbollah commander and a Presbyterian delegation that included the denomination's Chicago leader.

Jay Rock, the church's national coordinator for interfaith relations, promised Jewish leaders in a letter this week that Presbyterians would develop guidelines for members traveling in troubled regions, saying those at the Hezbollah meeting should have made clear the church's positions "against terrorism in any form, and for the security and vitality of Israel."

At the same time, the Rev. Robert Reynolds, Chicago's executive presbyter, said in a letter Thursday that he regretted attending the meeting because Hezbollah "used the group's visit for political purposes." Leaders of the church's local governing council wrote a letter emphasizing that Mr. Reynolds was not functioning in his official capacity on the trip.

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Once again Presbyterians are coming up with all sorts of excuses for their bad behavior. A sign of chronic leftism perhaps?
1 posted on 12/02/2005 3:21:37 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Once again I'm printing out the article and will hand it to my preacher this morning.

I will remind the preacher that this is why I am closer and closer to walking a few blocks down the road to the other Presbyterian Church, and taking my weekly offering with me.

"Is 'terrorist the right word? They are resistants." BS BS BS
2 posted on 12/02/2005 3:31:25 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: PeteB570
My wife and kids attend a presbyterian church, where I USED to be VERY generous in my donations.

After this scandal broke, the minister issued a moral equivalence statement, and has set his sail to the wind, showing ZERO moral fiber.

When the church hit me up for the capital campaign, I told the minister, in barely polite language, to bugger off.

The annual campaign letter JUST arrived yesterday. I do SO look forward to the black clad fraud trying to gather up the nerve to hit me up again.

3 posted on 12/02/2005 4:00:56 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

You may want to ask your minister about Nuhad Tomeh. He is the PCUSA missionary who has made the arrangements for these visits with Hezbollah. Here is the PCUSA website

http://www.pcusa.org/missionconnections/profiles/tomehn.htm


4 posted on 12/02/2005 4:11:34 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Supporters of Islamo-Fascists BUMP!


5 posted on 12/02/2005 4:12:34 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: PeteB570
It's not that long a walk, believe me. We left last January and know we did the right thing.

Presbyterians are not stupid or naive. The church was taken over by liberal leftists. I really believe there are three kinds of Presbyterians. 1. Committed leftists 2. Those that don't care 3. Those too old to change.

As the last group passes on the first group takes over and their idea of Christianity would repulse a pedophile priest.
6 posted on 12/02/2005 4:13:48 AM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad (and proud of it))
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
I'm going to link to another of your threads :)

Wiesenthal Center Denounces Presbyterian Church Leaders' Metting With Hezbollah Terrorist Commander

7 posted on 12/02/2005 4:19:14 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
At the same time, the Rev. Robert Reynolds, Chicago's executive presbyter, said in a letter Thursday that he regretted attending the meeting because Hezbollah "used the group's visit for political purposes."

Imagine that!

8 posted on 12/02/2005 4:32:48 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Gives new meaning to the term useful idiot.
9 posted on 12/02/2005 4:33:57 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: hellinahandcart

Reynolds regrets getting caught with his hand in the Hezbollah cookie jar.

Reynolds hopes that people have forgotten that Ron Stone used the same excuse last year that he did not know Hezbollah would use the visit for political purposes.

"When you are in the hole, stop digging."


10 posted on 12/02/2005 4:36:06 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Scottyboy568

And the standard-bearer of the conservative movement within the mainline Protestant churches is the Institute on Religion and Democracy

http://www.ird-renew.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKVLfMVIsG&b=278604


12 posted on 12/02/2005 5:19:34 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Oh, I've done the "chapter and verse" schtick with the guy...his response merely noted that "many Jews" also disagree with "the wall", etc. etc.

Jarringly, he's a clever and literate "nice guy". But "it just goes to show you" that you never really know someone til the chips are down.

13 posted on 12/02/2005 6:12:04 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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Are they still onto the divestiture campaign?


14 posted on 12/02/2005 6:28:39 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: Mi-kha-el

Now they're playing the "let's 'invest' in 'both peoples'" game.


15 posted on 12/02/2005 6:40:13 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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