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Ruling: Pregneant Moms can harm babies at will (vomit)
WND.com ^ | 11-30-05 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 12/01/2005 9:38:32 AM PST by FeeinTennessee

LAW OF THE LAND Ruling: Pregnant moms can harm babies at will Court says unborn children not 'human,' mothers can't be prosecuted for conduct

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: November 30, 2005 11:14 p.m. Eastern

By Joe Kovacs © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

The Supreme Court of Hawaii has ruled that unborn children are not "human beings," and therefore women cannot be prosecuted for causing the death of babies by harmful behavior during their pregancies.

The unanimous decision overturns the manslaughter conviction of 32-year-old Tayshea Aiwohi, who was found guilty in connection with the death of her newborn son by smoking crystal methamphetamine shortly before his birth.

"I'm extremely happy and grateful," said Aiwohi. "I believe [the case] changed me into a better person and I just hope to share that with others."

"My son can finally lay to rest," her husband, Kimo Aiwohi, told reporters. "And I'm very happy for my wife."

Tayshea gave birth to her son, Treyson, July 15, 2001, but the boy perished within two days with high levels of methamphetamine and amphetamine in his system, according to the local coroner.

The woman allegedly admitted to using the drugs for three days before the birth and took a "hit" on the morning her son was delivered.

In their ruling, the justices cited statutes noting a crime needed to be committed against "a human being." They declared since Treyson was not a "person" when Tayshea was smoking the drugs, she could not be prosecuted for harming the infant in her womb.

"The proscribed conduct must have been committed at a time when Treyson 'qualified' as a 'person,' defined by the Hawaii Penal Code as 'a human being who has been born and is alive,'" they wrote.

"It is so insane," Nancy Heisser of Grants Pass, Ore., told WorldNetDaily. "A little baby died, and the mother walks away scot-free. This is a travesty against this little one."

Beyond this specific case, some are worried about the decision's impact in the future.

"If something happens to any fetus under any circumstance, by [this] ruling, there could be no prosecution in any circumstance," Republican State Sen. Sam Slom told the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Rep. Sylvia Luke, D-Honolulu

But House Judiciary Chairwoman Sylvia Luke, a Democrat, agrees with the decision.

"At least from the Judiciary Committee's standpoint, we don't have any interest in changing the current law to allow for such prosecution. I think that runs into a very dangerous ground because it can be expanded to not just drugs, but the state infringing on the woman's life when the woman is pregnant," Luke told the paper. "Are we now going to say that pregnant woman can't smoke or [dictate] how much calcium a person would take?"

Interestingly, while pregnant mothers are shielded from prosecution for their own detrimental behavior, others are not.

Under the new, federal Unborn Victims of Violence Act, people other than the mother who cause the death of an unborn child can face prosecution for the baby's demise.

Laci Peterson

Also known as "Laci and Conner's Law," the measure was enacted in the wake of the murder of Laci Peterson of Modesto, Calif., and her unborn son. Laci's husband, Scott Peterson, was convicted of murder and is currently on death row.

In June, Gerardo Flores of Texas was convicted of capital murder and sentenced to life in prison after kicking his pregnant girlfriend repeatedly in the stomach to cause her to lose the couple's twins. The girlfriend, Erica Basoria, did not want the babies to be born and allowed Flores to kick her, but she was not charged with any wrongdoing by the state of Texas.

Such a scenario worries John Long, executive director of the Hawaii Right to Life.

"If that had been a boyfriend or a husband pressuring [Tayshea] to take crack or alcohol ... that would damage the unborn child, the ruling would have been entirely different," he told the Star-Bulletin. "I think that's where we got to come to grips with some sort of an equitable standard that is right for all."

According to the Honolulu Advertiser, "no appeals court in the country has upheld a prosecution for the death of a baby based on the mother's conduct while pregnant."

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Disgusting!
1 posted on 12/01/2005 9:38:33 AM PST by FeeinTennessee
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To: FeeinTennessee
"My son can finally lay to rest," her husband, Kimo Aiwohi, told reporters. "And I'm very happy for my wife."

If he wasn't "human" then how was he your "son?"

2 posted on 12/01/2005 9:39:30 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: FeeinTennessee

21st Century Dred Scott decision. Disgusting.


3 posted on 12/01/2005 9:41:24 AM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: RockinRight

If he wasn't "human" then how was he your "son?"




Mmmm hmmmm!!! Good point!


4 posted on 12/01/2005 9:42:20 AM PST by FeeinTennessee (http://hometown.aol.com/feereports/feepolitics.html)
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To: FeeinTennessee
Disgusting!

Nothing else really needs to be said. Totally insane.

5 posted on 12/01/2005 9:42:48 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Thank you President Bush for Judge Alito!)
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To: FeeinTennessee

As disgusting as this ruling is, it is consistent with the "Culture of Death" advocates who usually try to contort the meaning of words to suit the purpose at hand. In a way, it may force their acceptable horrors into the daylight.


6 posted on 12/01/2005 9:43:08 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: FeeinTennessee

The liberals will not stop until every unwanted pre-born baby is dead.

They want federal funding to pay for it, too.


7 posted on 12/01/2005 9:44:34 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: FeeinTennessee
Supreme Court of Hawaii: 100% democrat party utterly corrupt lawyers


8 posted on 12/01/2005 9:45:44 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Emmett McCarthy

So mothers can't sue if their babies are injured before birth by some sort of medicine, either?

(And of course, since it's Christmas, we'll have to dismiss the notion that John the Baptist leapt in his mother's womb when Mary approached; since John wasn't a person then. . .)


9 posted on 12/01/2005 9:46:11 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: FeeinTennessee

This, from the first state to make abortion legal. There is another case now pending where a pregnent woman was beaten into a comma by her boyfriend - again, drugs are involved. She is on life support and is now brain dead. The question now facing doctors and the court is whether to keep her on life support to eventually deliver the baby or disconnect her now and kill the "unhuman being". We wouldn't do that for animals but we will for "humans".


10 posted on 12/01/2005 9:46:15 AM PST by caisson71
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To: FeeinTennessee
Why shouldn't the potential mommy be allowed to harm her fetus? After all, it's just another part of her own body. A part with its own brain, its own heart, its own nervous system, its own digestive system, its own lungs... her own thoughts, her own feelings, her own dreams... her own pain...

Hey, wait a minute...

11 posted on 12/01/2005 9:47:15 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: FeeinTennessee

All this ruling does is carry the constitutional right to partial-birth abortion to the next logical step. It wouldn't be very logical to make intentional killing of an almost-born baby legal, but criminalize hist accidental harming by the "mother."


12 posted on 12/01/2005 9:47:15 AM PST by Restorer (They want to die. We want to kill them.)
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To: FeeinTennessee
The Supreme Court of Hawaii has ruled that unborn children are not "human beings,"

Didn't the law say the same things about Negroes in the 1850s?

13 posted on 12/01/2005 9:47:48 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: RockinRight

"If he wasn't "human" then how was he your "son?""

Sounds like Kerry, "It wasn't her son before it was".


14 posted on 12/01/2005 9:48:26 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: FeeinTennessee

So then the Hawaiian SC has ruled that a person can take whatever drugs they want to put into their bodies, no?

Your body. Your privacy. "Victimless crime" et al.


15 posted on 12/01/2005 9:49:24 AM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: TChris
Children should be able to sue their mothers for such preventable damages and get emancipation from that household.
16 posted on 12/01/2005 9:51:33 AM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Maceman

The State of Hawaii has ruled that it is not a human being "yet".

Have they determined when it IS a human being?


17 posted on 12/01/2005 9:52:40 AM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: TChris

Check this out:

http://msunderestimated.blogspot.com/2005/11/abort-child-be-born-again.html

Warning...the pictures on the site are disturbing. But it should be shown, just how horrible abortion is. And we are doing this to our children!


18 posted on 12/01/2005 9:53:06 AM PST by FeeinTennessee (http://hometown.aol.com/feereports/feepolitics.html)
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To: FeeinTennessee
So a baby is a person only when someone other than her mother causes her death? Culture of death logic.
19 posted on 12/01/2005 9:54:07 AM PST by manwiththehands (Democrats and the MSM: lies and hypocrisy on steroids)
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To: weegee
Children should be able to sue their mothers for such preventable damages and get emancipation from that household.

So if a mother smokes, or is married to a smoker and stay with him while breathing it in secondhand, should the child be able to sue if they are underweight at birth? What is Mom doesn't drink enough orange juice,or she doesn't take her vitamins, or she doesn't make all her prenatal visits?

20 posted on 12/01/2005 9:55:48 AM PST by LWalk18
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