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Classic: O'Reilly Just Embarrassed Himself With Lt Gen Mcinerney
Fox News BOR Show | 11/30/05

Posted on 11/30/2005 5:31:57 PM PST by Williams

O'Reilly just tried to make up some nonsense (as always) about Iraq and Vietnam. O'Reilly's guest was Lt. Gen. Mcinerney, who explained to BOR that it takes years to develop good company, battalion and division commanders and this will take 5 to 10 years to achieve in Iraq.

O'Reilly pontificates and tells Mcinerney that in Vietnam our advisors ran the South Vietnamese units and we just trained the Vietnamese footsoldiers and that worked pretty good and we should do the same in Iraq and the real problem is we don't have enough Iraqi "riflemen" to take orders from our advisors like we did in Vietnam and "isn't that right?"

It was beautiful when Mcinerney said calmly "No, I don't think it is right" and Mcinerney further explains that HE WAS an advisor in Vietnam and he NEVER commanded the Vietnamese units, they of course had their own leaders and he only gave them advice and support.

O'Reilly being what he is, he of course interrupted Mcinerney and somehow pretended he hadn't just been smashed in the face with his own pie, and switched to the other guest. O'Reilly makes up so much based on his own egotistic bloviating it was great watching someone who knew what they were talking about calmly tell O'Reilly he's full of it.


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To: Williams

"O'Reilly pontificates and tells Mcinerney that in Vietnam our advisors ran the South Vietnamese units and we just trained the Vietnamese footsoldiers and that worked pretty good and we should do the same in Iraq and the real problem is we don't have enough Iraqi "riflemen" to take orders from our advisors like we did in Vietnam and "isn't that right?"



What was so funny about this question, was that BORe even answered it himself (and contradicted his argument) when he noted that the S. Vietnamese army collapsed when the US soldiers left. In other words, perhaps it wasn't done correctly in Vietnam and they are now taking the time to make sure they get it right in Iraq before we withdraw.

The General had it right on the money when he pointed out how hard it is to not only train an army, but to train leaders to run that army...especially inlight of the desserters, counter-insurgents and traitors you have to weed-out on a continual basis.

I'm amazed at the ignorance of some people who don't recognize the enormity of this situation. This is one of the most religuously diverse countries in the world...coming together as the first and only democratic country in the Arab/Islam region with a constitution...and people are wondering what's taking too long after 2 1/2 years. I always knew we were a fast-food society...but this is ridiculous.


61 posted on 11/30/2005 6:32:22 PM PST by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: hole_n_one
If I knew then what I know now, my username would be one of the following........


62 posted on 11/30/2005 6:35:16 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: MizSterious

If I recall correctly, Col. Hunt was one of the very wrong 'armchair generals' whose pre-invasion predictions were way off. Of the military contributors on FOX, i've always like Col David Hackworth, Oliver North, and McInerny.


63 posted on 11/30/2005 6:43:39 PM PST by Andrew_Kalionzes (Anti-Liberal)
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To: MizSterious

>He doesn't take "correcting" well. In fact, he pretty much refused to listen to McInerny.,

The funny thing is a little old lady told him essentially the same thing this afternoon on the radio.When he started his deal about training soldiers in 10 weeks she told him our officers spend 4 years at the finest military schools.He just started bloviatng.That's probably where he got the idea for the question.


64 posted on 11/30/2005 6:48:08 PM PST by Blessed
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To: billhilly

Look at his competition -- Keith Olberman and Larry King.


65 posted on 11/30/2005 6:56:40 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Blessed



"He doesn't take "correcting" well..."

Reminds me of a skit performed by Victor Borge many years ago. He was portraying Franz Liszt when he said this:

"Well, to be honest, I was very conceited in my youth. In fact, I was always very conceited, but all that has changed now. Now I'm perfect!"


66 posted on 11/30/2005 6:57:32 PM PST by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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To: Williams
There was a thread this morning about O'Blovaitor on the Today show where he threw the same 6 weeks of boot camp to build an army riff with Klueless Katie.

I guess the "ego monster" didn't check in with his reviews on FreeRepublic today to see how that nonsense got torn totally apart here.

The guy is a total jerk and it appears no one at Fox has bothered to tell him. That's a sure sign that you don't have any friends. .

67 posted on 11/30/2005 7:03:56 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: savedbygrace

I have you beat by 2 months.


68 posted on 11/30/2005 7:07:20 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: RAY
Saw it and couldn't believe Bill was being so stupid!

I thought the EXACT same thing when I heard it.

69 posted on 11/30/2005 7:11:30 PM PST by Jorge (Q)
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To: Moolah
O'Reilly is the king of cable, like him or not.

Yes, his show does have this strange mass appeal that's hard to explain sometimes....until you look at his competition.

70 posted on 11/30/2005 7:15:23 PM PST by Jorge (Q)
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To: savedbygrace

I thought I had you by a day -- then I realized yours said "Jan" not "Jun". Ah, well. I'm pretty sure that I registered within the first week or so of finding the link from Drudge.


71 posted on 11/30/2005 7:15:27 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: TADSLOS
Bill is a noise box with an Irishman built around it.

Not sure why, but this made me LOL.

72 posted on 11/30/2005 7:18:40 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Williams

Being kind of hard on Bill aren't we?

Look. He has a schtick. It gets annoying as does Larry Kings Schtick. However, he really never lets conversations drag into that 'safety zone' that most politicians like. His comments are interesting at best and entertaining at worst. What do you want that's better? Brit Hume does the news. Bill does the commentary. Would you rather have Jesse Jackson or Nancy Pelosi doing it? I wouldn't!


73 posted on 11/30/2005 7:21:41 PM PST by Firefox1
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To: Firefox1

Lots of green showing around here tonight I'd say.

BOL is the best on cable, bar none and you all watch him as proof.

Not much goes against him because he is unbeatable.

His kid book is awesome btw.


74 posted on 11/30/2005 7:26:17 PM PST by Moolah
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To: Williams
Funny how two people can see the same thing and have complete opposite views. I watched the whole show and never made out what you are trying to say. Could it be you are one of the many O'Reilly haters here on F.R.?
75 posted on 11/30/2005 7:28:18 PM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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To: Popman

It has been more like 3-4, for me.

I still say that when Arthel Neville left the show, he lost his "grounding" in the real world. She acted as a court jester to keep BOR's head from swelling. Though I disagreed greatly with her politics, she served a very useful purpose for BOR and the show.

When she left for greener pastures, is when BOR's head swelled to several times the volume of the studio, and I quit watching regularly.


76 posted on 11/30/2005 7:33:42 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Williams
Everyone just fell in love with Hunt when the war was on. His gravelly-tough voice and bulldog appearance was appealling.

This guy is about 75% flipped. I don't trust him a bit. He's not helping the war effort, the troops' morale or our Commander-in-Chief with his BS that most freepers could blow holes into in a face-to-face with him.

Right away he started out with his now-familiar "America bad" crappola much to the delight of O'Reilly. The duo's bash-America session would have continued except for the calm, non-emotional FACTS stated by McInerney.....which put the lie to the two egoists on the show.

The Hunt-O'Reilly axis of weevils is damaging to our country. It's an insidious situation when the two of them are on together.

"Bloviator" may be a funny term to some, but what O'Reilly's nickname really should be is not so funny.

Leni

77 posted on 11/30/2005 7:39:53 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: savedbygrace

How do you bring that number up?


78 posted on 11/30/2005 7:40:34 PM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: Txsleuth
Did you listen to the first 5 minutes or so of his radio show today???

No I set the radio to static. (actually I worked late)

79 posted on 11/30/2005 7:43:35 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"Look at his competition"

I will not.


80 posted on 11/30/2005 7:57:15 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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