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Live Thread - Anybody Watching W's Speech On Immigration - Only on Fox (Vanity)
Fox News Channel | 11/28/05 | Self

Posted on 11/28/2005 1:55:47 PM PST by TCats

They say better late than never but......


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush43; cz; davismonthanafb; heslyingagain; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationplan; term2; w; whatplan
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To: tcrlaf

We have a hog rendering plant near here full of mexicans too, you wanna know why Americans do not want to go work there? Maybe it has to do with all the ILLEGALS and all the Spanish!!!!

Take a trip to Wal mart in beardstown why don't you. People are not only moving away from that area because of the hog rendering plant, they are moving away from there because Americans are a MINORITY there.

They can lay in there own bed, after all they made it. Wages were not always what they are now and if all the illegals didn't exist there Americans WOULD take those jobs.


81 posted on 11/28/2005 2:14:42 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: roses of sharon

haha....hey, he campaigned on this issue....so telling me to run for office is ludicrous....does that mean if you villify the Dems....someone should tell you to "run for office".....we should be able to....even here on FR give reasonable debate....."reasonable"....which I think I am


82 posted on 11/28/2005 2:14:52 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

It's good to disagree, but let's not treat this issue as a surprise.

Let's propose eliminating the benefits, like welfare and such and then a guest worker program will look a lot different.


83 posted on 11/28/2005 2:14:56 PM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: All

I just heard and saw it.

Maybe it is my imagination, but I didn’t find a lot of enthusiasm from the audience. I think there were places Jorge thought the audience would applaud but didn’t.

I kind of thought it was a bomb. But maybe it is wishful and mean thinking on my part.


84 posted on 11/28/2005 2:15:08 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Spiff

"He just promised to construct physical barriers to prevent illegals from crossing in the first place. Barriers. New patrol roads, new vehicle barriers, more fencing in urban areas to stop human smuggling corridors. Allocated 70 million dollars for this.

Not bad."

Only $70 million? That's an insult.


85 posted on 11/28/2005 2:15:21 PM PST by Shermy
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To: jackv
Promised Interior Enforcement. Wants to enforce immigration laws throughout the land. Better worksite enforcement.

I sure hope so. Now, show results to go along with those promises.

86 posted on 11/28/2005 2:15:26 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Travis McGee

Great Pictures.

Guess we are going to have start to vote for folks who will do jobs that Bush isn't willing to do.

His speech said nothing new. It was an insult to the security or safety and intelligence of the American taxpayer.

We need a fence.


87 posted on 11/28/2005 2:15:43 PM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: MNlurker

I hope their ratings continue to fall so far down, they have to get a shovel to keep up with it.


88 posted on 11/28/2005 2:15:49 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: quefstar

According to most of the people on this thread, Bush might as well go fishing for the next 3 years. Nothing he does is going to be good enough anyway.


89 posted on 11/28/2005 2:16:01 PM PST by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
I got the same sense you did---the audience heard very little to cheer.

Probably because the President didn't say anything of substance.
90 posted on 11/28/2005 2:16:28 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I don't think it was your imagination.


91 posted on 11/28/2005 2:16:54 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

uh, your favorite, Reagan endorsed amnesty. Bush said quite clearly that the laws ARE to be strictly enforced. Were you even listening!!??? Did you hear the stats he read off about the improvements he HAS made during his 5 years???!!!
Good grief!! I can't believe these complainers on this thread!!


92 posted on 11/28/2005 2:17:12 PM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: bybybill

"There is nothing the President can say or do that will win approval from the Tancredo clan"

He could admit that the INVASION of Illegals is the largest problem this nation faces and deploy the military to stop all border intrusions....you know something the constituion requires that he and congress actually DO!


93 posted on 11/28/2005 2:17:36 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: saveliberty

yes.....I"ve never had a problem with a legit guest worker program as long as the borders are secured and illegals are systematically either rounded up or this border running is put to a screeching halt.......


94 posted on 11/28/2005 2:17:57 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

LOL, I'm serious! Really! Why not? Plenty of people respond to this issue.

(BTW, this President has always been an open borders guy from his Texas days)


95 posted on 11/28/2005 2:17:57 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Nan48

"I'm still waiting to hear an apology for calling the Minutemen vigilantes."

Yes. That would be right and good evidence that the man if finally getting it.

I am disappointed to see that he still does not get it.

Prayers for our country.


96 posted on 11/28/2005 2:17:58 PM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: Travis McGee

Your picture and caption of the "Bush & Fox Duo" is absolutrly hilarious! It's also tragic because it's true.


97 posted on 11/28/2005 2:18:26 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: Spiff
Now he's talking about the guest worker amnesty. Somehow, giving 11 million plus illegals a guest worker amnesty is going to "relieve the pressure on the borders."

How? Amnesties ALWAYS serve as a magnet for more illegal immigration, not less! Does he thing we're that stupid?

(Yes, he does.)


98 posted on 11/28/2005 2:18:38 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Lakeshark
"You work at MacDonald's?"

Is that so shameful? Yes, I worked for minimum wage in high school and college.

Others went to spring break to flash their boobs publicly. They apparently believe that everyone does that, and nobody in their right mind would ever work.

99 posted on 11/28/2005 2:18:56 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: DoughtyOne

It allows the people to remain for a limited time only!!!
Hardly amnesty!


100 posted on 11/28/2005 2:19:24 PM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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