Border control is broken on both ends. Consider the location of the first US/Canada drug smuggling tunnel:
Posted on 11/27/2005 10:27:55 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
note to self - Republican should be plural..
for it will effect them all.
Border control is broken on both ends. Consider the location of the first US/Canada drug smuggling tunnel:
A border fence system designed to succeed. Fences, ditches, electronic sensors, access roads for rapid response, surveillance cameras, lots of good old fashioned barbed wire. It has that see through factor you advocate. Israel put it's best "rocket scientists" at work figuring how to keep terrorists out. So far the results are good.
Plenty of U.S. border properties (north and south) have been purchased by smugglers. It's beyond a scandal.
Nice art work on that NADA Peso note. I just saved that sucker and will run off a few to stuff Republican survey mailers with. LOL
Vigilantes are those who take the law into their own hands. What the Minutemen are doing is lawful, therefore they are not vigilantes. In fact, they are doing what the government border partol agents are supposed to be doing in the first place.
President Bush seems to be timid on this issue, as though he's waiting to see which way the wind will be blowing tomorrow. What he wants to do about illegal immigration is pretty clear, nothing. But right now he's avoiding what is probably the biggest issue on American soil today.
Fighting terror on the homeland is like guarding your own house against intruders, and leaving your doors wide open day and night probably isn't a good idea. Neither with your house or with your country.
We're not stupid. We see the explosive changes here first-hand. I think I can tell some illegals apart because I've seen them returning to their canyon camps known to house illegals. I see them shuffle along from the camps to work as day laborers waiting to get picked up for a day's work or come to your home looking for it. I see them shopping in the grocery store next to me trying to figure out how much an apple will cost for lunch.
When they live and shop next to you, within your community, you get to know who they are, where they are. More and more customers begin to speak Spanish. Announcements in stores begin to move to Spanish. Then the signage. Soon you have difficulty communicating with clerks because your primary language is English all despite English being required for a citizenship exam and, hopefully, English instruction was given in their public schooling. The Left's perverse abuse of the "race card" and the Business sector's lust for cheap labor culminate in the undermining of communities that existed and the Balkanization of our cities, of our states. Some places in San Diego it's like the Tower of Babel because English or even being bilingual (which I am) will not cut it.
It isn't racist to say, "Hold on, Mr. President!" We can't blindly accomidate without losing who we are, who our community is and was. Soon community becomes town, becomes city, becomes a state. California is becoming that state.
Thanks for the "peso"!
"The Left's perverse abuse of the "race card" and the Business sector's lust for cheap labor culminate in the undermining of communities that existed and the Balkanization of our cities, of our states."
Hear ye, hear ye. Same is happening here in Chicago. I live in the most conservative suburb in the state of Illinois (DuPage County) and when I (or anyone) go to my local Walmart, I'm in the minority now (I'm a whitey) and the store is chock full of third world people from all over the place. Your Tower of Babel is located in my WalMart (and probably lots of others). Now, mind you, this is in a conservative burb.
Everywhere I go now, it is chock full of foreigners. Go to any McDonald's; the workers are all Hispanic, you can hardly understand many of them, and they can't understand you when you order. They are either illegals, or haven't ever bothered to learn English, or weren't taught it in school, at least not effectively. I see and hear many Middle Easterners (oh joy), many middle Europeans, Chinese, Phillipino, Ukrainian, Russian, Latin Americans. Talk about melting pot. And that's my known fear; there is little to no assimilation taking place now; put all the emphasis on the "melting" part of pot. We are in "meltdown". We are losing our culture which was based on Western European traditions and values. Now we are a polyglot country filled with third worlders. Haitians, Albanians, Sudanese, Nigerians. Ever since Jimmy Carter was Prez and opened the immigration doors to third worlders, we have been on a downhill slide as to immigration policy.
No more do people come here with a known skill that would advance our society's needs; no sponsor to be responsible for them once they get here; just hop on the welfare rolls immediately. Anchor babies, bi-lingual education, a sense of entitlement that many immigrants now have, it all makes me very ill when thinking of what the results of our immigration policy will too soon be.
Politicians always "plan" and "call for" stuff that excites their more gullible supporters. If they actually DID that stuff, what would then be left to excite the supporters with...?
There is only one logical conclusion a reasonable person can reach witnessing the irreparable damage socially, culturally, economically, and demographically to the United States by the suicidal immigration policies of the last thirty years. It is entirely on purpose. Now please press two for english.
"GW has had 6 years to show he's serious about enforcing our borders..."
Our beloved "W" also had the golden opportunity of 9/11/01 to close the borders and just get hard, real hard, on the whole illegal immigration thing, he squandered that moment. Hopefully there will never be another one like it.
He's been pro-Mexico the whole time. I remember at one point saying to a friend that we had to get Al Gore back, because Bush wanted to be president of Mexico and Bill Clinton wanted to be Mayor of Harlem. That was in early 2001.
I was as pro-immigrant as a person could be. I was like the Wall Street Journal still is to this day. About 11 am on 9/11/01 the paradigm changed for me. But for Bush, et al. it aint' changed yet. So it is impossible to see this all as anything but pandering.
Why six years? Why not five? Why not ten? Why not amnesty? Why not immediate deportation? It's just a lot of BS.
Great idea. I'm running off some "nada" pesos too!
Hee, hee, hee, they're going to love us.
Actually, I got side-tracked on my above toot. I really wanted to say that Bush's 2-day tour of border states and future speech on immigration policy will be a total joke. It will be more of the same, 1000 new border control agents (a drop in the bucket considering the constant stream of illegals pouring over our borders).
Use of new technology (but of course technology can't arrest the illegals, only point them out, and then, considering that there are too few agents to cover a huge territory, they won't catch them anyway).
Deporting illegals back further into Mexico (great idea, huh, as it will only cost us, the U.S. taxpayer, a ton of money on transporting them further back into Mexico by plane).
It's all smoke and mirrors, achieving little to nothing. And then Bush will go into his "guest worker" rap which translates into amnesty for illegals. Some "new" immigration policy. What a joke. And he thinks he can snow the people with this. And the sad fact (with the exception of a few savvy conservatives) is that he probably will. As to pleasing his conservative base, what's coming up will please none of them, at least the true conservatives.
Meanwhile, that which really needs to be done, won't be:
Fine companies that hire illegals. Give illegals no benefits, driver's licenses, do not let them use matricular consular cards. No free health care, deport all illegals back to where they came from. Build a fence and/or wall, across our southern border; attack drug runners and gang bangers and along the border, dipping into Mexico if need be to get them. Go in and grab murderers who hide in Mexico and extract them by whatever means are necessary, and tough toenails to Vincente Fox. Put the military down there to guard our border. Allow the "vigilantes" to patrol our border and stop calling them vigilantes. No more anchor babies. No more bringing over extended families (only children and grandparents). All imnmigrants must have a sponsor who will be financially responsible for their family member. No more grandma and grandpa coming here and immediately going on welfare as they are too old to work. They only come if their children are willing to pay for their upkeep. No bilingual education. They learn English just like all of the prior immigrants to this country had to do. Harder immigration tests for citizenship based on a good knowledge of how our country was founded, and on what principles. Jail all illegals that commit a crime and then kick them out after they serve their jail term. Strengthen our visa requirements, and deport any and all who might even have a whiff of being associated with a terrorist group.
Of course, all of the above are entirely too logical and would actually solve the problem of immigration, but we can't have that, can we? No, Bush will suggest a few cosmetic changes and never get to the heart of the problem. I am so disappointed with Bush on this subject. He is a globalist like his old man is, and this is not a good thing.
Seriously, this is one area where I do not understand Bush or the Republicans. It really makes our party look like the caricatures the left says we are. Illegals do hurt A) the middle class, B) the working poor, and C) the illegals themselves, working without benefit of any kind of protection because they are circumventing the law. Conservatives stand for fairness and freedom, in trade and otherwise, not corporate greed. I don't get it.
Get out of Cheney's house.
So forgive me if I don't find your pictures that useful in proposing a solution to our illegal immigrant problem.
"So forgive me if I don't find your pictures that useful in proposing a solution to our illegal immigrant problem."
If it works for Israel, it will work for us. What do you think the cost of another 9/11 would be? And you put the fence in a greater length in those areas that are most heavily used by illegals trying to enter our country. It is doable, there have been suggested cost estimates already, and nothing would be more expensive than another attack of great magnitude on our country. Or the costs we are already shouldering supporting illegal immigrants in healthcare, education, welfare benefits, jailtime for the many that commit criminal acts, etc. Give me the fence please.
If we have themoney to build B-2's at $2 billion+ a unit then we have the money to build this level of fence.
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