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1 posted on 11/27/2005 8:34:51 AM PST by SmithL
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poor little old murderers, thugs, and thieves. Those juries and judges didn't really mean to keep you incarcerated if you got sick. That's no fair


2 posted on 11/27/2005 8:39:11 AM PST by digger48
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We need to keep criminals behind bars, even better would be to put them in tent cities with no color cable TV.


3 posted on 11/27/2005 8:39:58 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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has resulted in the continuing incarceration of thousands of ailing and aging inmates, most of whom present little or no threat to public safety.

They present little to no threat to public safety, precisely because they are put away for life!

4 posted on 11/27/2005 8:40:15 AM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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Our system is not perfect but at least the old and feeble are not executed like some countries.
5 posted on 11/27/2005 8:41:11 AM PST by mountainlyons (AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!)
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The ironical thang to these writers is that these inmates don't want to leave at this point.


7 posted on 11/27/2005 8:43:29 AM PST by Thebaddog (K9 4ever)
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In mid-September, the Vacaville facility opened the first licensed elderly care unit in a California prison. It offers an even higher level of care than a regular nursing home to inmates who can no longer care for themselves.

That's good news. When I reach the age when I will need nursing care, I will visit California and commit a serious crime.

8 posted on 11/27/2005 8:44:18 AM PST by Dog Gone
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I struggle every day to take care of my 80 year old, WWII veteran, retired LEO, father. He suffers from Parkinson's, and most days he is not really aware of his surroundings. It breaks my heart. These people get care that I could never afford for my father and their total contribution to society is being a criminal.

I could care less about their suffering, and in the mood I'm in after reading this drivel the criminals should thank God I'm not in charge of their care.

Maybe my dad can rob a bank and live the good life.

11 posted on 11/27/2005 8:45:49 AM PST by 11Bush
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This is the other side of the death penalty debate for all of those who think life sentences are less expensive than the needle.

Granted not all who are aging and sick and dying would have received the death penalty but a fair number who would have are now costing us $$$ as they lay dying

17 posted on 11/27/2005 8:51:58 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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This is what happens when you don't execute criminals. Life without parole means life, and sometimes it's a long one.


18 posted on 11/27/2005 8:52:04 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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The state should also consider granting "compassionate release" to feeble or dying inmates who have already served the fixed portions of their sentence, and are eligible for parole. Continuing to incarcerate them, even in model programs like those at Vacaville, amounts to unnecessarily cruel punishment and disregards the spiraling costs being inflicted on California taxpayers.

Wonder where the feeble and the dying will receive their medical care following compassionate release, so that California taxpayers are spared those spiraling costs?

This writer doesn't seem to want to take his article pass the walls of the correctional system.

19 posted on 11/27/2005 8:52:04 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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The unexamined assumption is that if these people were "freed" from prison they would not be a burden on the public. Clearly, they'd just be moved from the prison wing of the hospital to the "charity" wing.


20 posted on 11/27/2005 8:52:34 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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Note carefully that the cost of $70,000 per year is not compared to the cost of releasing them and having them go out on the street - and wind up on Medicaid, likely in a nursing home anyway. The bottom line - minimal added cost to taxpayers by keeping them in jail.

This is a standard technique of the MSM. They present only half of the story.

Furthermore - who's to say who's indigent and who's a threat - it's a VERY subjective determination. As long as I'm able to see felons on their deathbed still in jail, then I know we're erring on the safe side.

By the way, nice air conditioner units on those cells.


21 posted on 11/27/2005 8:53:39 AM PST by MediaAnalyst
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“The state should also consider granting 'compassionate release' to feeble or dying inmates who have already served the fixed portions of their sentence, and are eligible for parole.”

Compassionate release to the feeble and dying? In what alley do they plan to dump them? If the author of this article is talking about compassion, it is compassion to give them medical care until the last rather than turning them out onto the street.

Although the author did not say this, is he thinking of transferring them to a “civilian care” facility? If so, then I will forgive the author.


23 posted on 11/27/2005 8:58:14 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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I took the tour of that facility when applying for a job there a fews years back. Seemed like it was pretty well run, with good care given. Of course it's not state of the art, but to me it beat your average resthome. I just did not want to work all the overtime that was then and I understand still is, required.


26 posted on 11/27/2005 8:59:45 AM PST by tertiary01
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They get free medical care... while I have to do without. What's wrong with this picture?

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

31 posted on 11/27/2005 9:18:10 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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It is home to 17 inmates ranging in age from 43 to 82.

What is the answer to this huge problem? Yawn...

32 posted on 11/27/2005 9:21:21 AM PST by RJL
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Most of the ones mentioned are not a threat to others. The question that remains for me is which is cheaper treatment on the street paid by MediCal or inside paid by the Dept. of Corrections. As these people get older they will need more and more skilled nursing care.


43 posted on 11/27/2005 10:56:17 AM PST by bigsigh
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He has been battling drug problems since he was 12, and has been in and out of jail almost as long.

Precisely why he should remain in jail, dumbass.

I don't wish ill upon anybody, but I really hope that the rapists and murderers whom he wishes to "set free" will visit his house before mine.

Then he may be singing a slightly different tune.

45 posted on 11/27/2005 10:58:21 AM PST by Recovering Hermit (Amateur naked ear squatter.)
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Sixty-one-year-old Richard Carreiro was the only one who seemed aware of his surroundings, as he sat in a wheelchair watching a rerun of the television show "Cops." He has been battling drug problems since he was 12, and has been in and out of jail almost as long. Rather than being incarcerated, he says he should be getting drug treatment.

If he has not stopped using drugs after 50 years, why should we think letting him loose for drug treatment now would change anything?

47 posted on 11/27/2005 11:03:09 AM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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What we saw pointed to the outcome of a "get tough on crime" policy that began decades ago, and has resulted in the continuing incarceration of thousands of ailing and aging inmates, most of whom present little or no threat to public safety.

Wait a minute here. The libs were the ones who pushed "life without parole" as an alternative to the death penalty. And how many times have we heard that death row is more expensive than imprisoning people for life? It seems like that is no longer the case.

49 posted on 11/27/2005 4:14:48 PM PST by NYCVirago
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