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Old and sick behind bars
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| 11/27/5
| Editor
Posted on 11/27/2005 8:34:51 AM PST by SmithL
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:34:51 AM PST
by
SmithL
To: SmithL
poor little old murderers, thugs, and thieves. Those juries and judges didn't really mean to keep you incarcerated if you got sick. That's no fair
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:39:11 AM PST
by
digger48
To: SmithL
We need to keep criminals behind bars, even better would be to put them in tent cities with no color cable TV.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:39:58 AM PST
by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
(Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
To: SmithL
has resulted in the continuing incarceration of thousands of ailing and aging inmates, most of whom present little or no threat to public safety.They present little to no threat to public safety, precisely because they are put away for life!
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:40:15 AM PST
by
JRios1968
("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
To: SmithL
Our system is not perfect but at least the old and feeble are not executed like some countries.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:41:11 AM PST
by
mountainlyons
(AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!)
To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
tent cities in Death Valley. thats whats needed.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:41:55 AM PST
by
wallcrawlr
(http://www.bionicear.com)
To: SmithL
The ironical thang to these writers is that these inmates don't want to leave at this point.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:43:29 AM PST
by
Thebaddog
(K9 4ever)
To: SmithL
In mid-September, the Vacaville facility opened the first licensed elderly care unit in a California prison. It offers an even higher level of care than a regular nursing home to inmates who can no longer care for themselves.That's good news. When I reach the age when I will need nursing care, I will visit California and commit a serious crime.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:44:18 AM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: digger48
To: mountainlyons
The idea of killing the old and infirm could be the assisted suicide policy of Oregon. Think of it, would the powers behind articles like this support euthanizing these inmates when it got to be too expensive to house them with geriatric care?
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:45:40 AM PST
by
Thebaddog
(K9 4ever)
To: SmithL
I struggle every day to take care of my 80 year old, WWII veteran, retired LEO, father. He suffers from Parkinson's, and most days he is not really aware of his surroundings. It breaks my heart. These people get care that I could never afford for my father and their total contribution to society is being a criminal.
I could care less about their suffering, and in the mood I'm in after reading this drivel the criminals should thank God I'm not in charge of their care.
Maybe my dad can rob a bank and live the good life.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:45:49 AM PST
by
11Bush
To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
We need to keep criminals behind bars, even better would be to put them in tent cities with no color cable TV.We need to do that here in Texas for sure. Lots of room out in West Texas....
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:47:32 AM PST
by
RVN Airplane Driver
(Freedom isn't Free....never has been...never will be)
To: o_zarkman44
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:48:28 AM PST
by
digger48
To: Dog Gone
That's good news. When I reach the age when I will need nursing care, I will visit California and commit a serious crime.Let me know and I'll drive the getaway car real slow for us. Heck, free medical, free dental, free room and board, free arts and crafts, free continuing education, free legal, all the books I can read, and free HBO!
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:49:03 AM PST
by
mtbopfuyn
(Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
To: mtbopfuyn
Heck, free medical, free dental, free room and board, free arts and crafts, free continuing education, free legal, all the books I can read, and free HBO! And all the sex your cellmate wants.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:50:27 AM PST
by
11Bush
To: digger48
---The state should also consider granting "compassionate release" to feeble or dying inmates who have already served the fixed portions of their sentence, and are eligible for parole. Continuing to incarcerate them, even in model programs like those at Vacaville, amounts to unnecessarily cruel punishment and disregards the spiraling costs being inflicted on California taxpayers. ---
Where else would they go? Are we going to put them up in condos down by the local county hospital? Or do we just let them out on the streets of San Francisco? Brainless liberal do-goodism at it's finest.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:51:25 AM PST
by
claudiustg
(Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
To: SmithL
This is the other side of the death penalty debate for all of those who think life sentences are less expensive than the needle.
Granted not all who are aging and sick and dying would have received the death penalty but a fair number who would have are now costing us $$$ as they lay dying
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:51:58 AM PST
by
muir_redwoods
(Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
To: SmithL
This is what happens when you don't execute criminals. Life without parole means life, and sometimes it's a long one.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:52:04 AM PST
by
PLMerite
("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
To: SmithL
The state should also consider granting "compassionate release" to feeble or dying inmates who have already served the fixed portions of their sentence, and are eligible for parole. Continuing to incarcerate them, even in model programs like those at Vacaville, amounts to unnecessarily cruel punishment and disregards the spiraling costs being inflicted on California taxpayers.Wonder where the feeble and the dying will receive their medical care following compassionate release, so that California taxpayers are spared those spiraling costs?
This writer doesn't seem to want to take his article pass the walls of the correctional system.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:52:04 AM PST
by
Racehorse
(Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
To: SmithL
The unexamined assumption is that if these people were "freed" from prison they would not be a burden on the public. Clearly, they'd just be moved from the prison wing of the hospital to the "charity" wing.
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:52:34 AM PST
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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