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Parents criticize sex ed chart (How do you define abstinence?)
The Gazette ^ | November 23, 2005 | Peggy Vaughn

Posted on 11/23/2005 1:30:45 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

The county school system is re-thinking its definition of sexual abstinence after complaints from two parents that their children were receiving incorrect and even risky information in sex ed classes.

Karen Sees and Cindy Richards said the ‘‘contraception comparison chart” used in eighth-grade health class at Herbert Hoover Middle School describes three types of abstinence: No intercourse, withdrawal (ejaculation outside of the body) and rhythm (no intercourse during ovulation).

‘‘Since when did the term abstinence change to include the two most ineffective forms of birth control possible?” said Cindy Richards of Potomac. ‘‘Here we have been teaching our kids that abstinence means not having sex, period. What kind of message is this [chart] sending?”

Sees, also of Potomac, first became aware of the chart while helping her son study for health class in late October. She said she immediately e-mailed her son’s health education teacher about her concerns.

‘‘I’m all for teaching sex education, but I want it to be accurate information,” she said. ‘‘I was told by my son’s health teacher that withdrawal and rhythm are considered abstinence because [sexual partners] are refraining from what they want to do.”

Both Planned Parenthood of Maryland and the Catholic Archdiocese of Washington agreed with the parents that the definition was faulty.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: abstinence; brainwashing; corruptingminors; education; hedonists; indoctrination; itsjustsex; libertines; lyingliars; publicschools; sexed; sexeducation; sexpositiveagenda; sexualizingchildren; taxdollarsatwork; teensex; youpayforthis
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why can't they speak the obvious truth:

Abstinence is refraining from any contact with the private parts of another person. Period.

In "Stranger Danger" lessons, the private parts are simply defined as those that would be covered by your bathing suit.

How hard is it to teach that?


21 posted on 11/23/2005 2:18:40 PM PST by Palladin (There ain't nobody here but us chickens. (Senate Dems Theme Song))
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To: ClearCase_guy
You might add, 'sex' to the list
As in..."I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky"
22 posted on 11/23/2005 2:22:04 PM PST by kanawa
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To: little jeremiah

;-)


23 posted on 11/23/2005 2:24:33 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Dear liberals:

Please stop defining words to suit your own perverted needs. This ain't Wonderland and you ain't Humpty Dumpty.

Thanks.

24 posted on 11/23/2005 2:45:38 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Palladin

I would call abstinence the lack of penetration.

By that I mean Penetration of the Oral, Anal and Vaginal orifice by the partners sexual equipment.

I dont call stroking or fondling a sexual act. Foreplay although it gets one into some pretty big sweats at times is not the sexual act.


25 posted on 11/23/2005 2:53:20 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The Dems are willing to throw the game in Iraq, just to embarrass President Bush)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The chart must have been designed by Slick "I-didn't-have-sex" Willy.


26 posted on 11/23/2005 2:54:27 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: sgtbono2002

I don't like your definition.

Did you ever try to eat just ONE potato chip?


27 posted on 11/23/2005 2:55:34 PM PST by Palladin (There ain't nobody here but us chickens. (Senate Dems Theme Song))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

People in this country worry too much about who's having sex with whom. That said, a sex ed program that doesn't define "abstinence" accurately is pretty sad.


28 posted on 11/23/2005 2:58:52 PM PST by tvdog12345
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To: sgtbono2002

Laws against rape and child molestation require you to abstain from sexual relations with the other person. How much "abstinence" is involved?

Running around the bases is still playing around even if you don't go "home".

How is oral (3rd base) not permissible while mutual masturbation (2nd base) is?


29 posted on 11/23/2005 3:14:28 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: tvdog12345

The sex positive agenda seeks to lift all moral judgement regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, or number or species of partner.

Hardly something the schools should be indoctrinating students with.

Welcome to FR.


30 posted on 11/23/2005 3:16:31 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: weegee

I think I mentioned penetration.


31 posted on 11/23/2005 3:36:22 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The Dems are willing to throw the game in Iraq, just to embarrass President Bush)
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To: Palladin

Man thats a good straight line for a joke, but I'll let it slide.


32 posted on 11/23/2005 3:38:54 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The Dems are willing to throw the game in Iraq, just to embarrass President Bush)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Newspeak lives.


33 posted on 11/23/2005 3:40:21 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Cowards cut and run. Marines never do. Murtha can ESAD, that cowardly, no-longer-a-Marine, traitor.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
‘‘Since when did the term abstinence change to include the two most ineffective forms of birth control possible?”

Well, actually, the second and third least effective. The least effective being intercourse and just playing the odds against pregnancy- "Poke and Hope"- if you will.

34 posted on 11/23/2005 4:09:02 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
‘‘I was told by my son’s health teacher that withdrawal and rhythm are considered abstinence because [sexual partners] are refraining from what they want to do.”

STOOPID!

35 posted on 11/23/2005 5:16:37 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: mtbopfuyn
The chart must have been designed by Slick "I-didn't-have-sex" Willy.

Indeed! And all his apologists. No wonder there has been an explosion of oral sex between middle and high school students.

36 posted on 11/24/2005 1:17:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Prodigal Son

True.

I don't know how they think they've brought abstinence into the picture.


37 posted on 11/24/2005 1:18:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tvdog12345
People in this country worry too much about who's having sex with whom

I don't worry about that. This is about children and what their parents should know. They're paying for this and these are their children.

38 posted on 11/24/2005 1:20:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Both Planned Parenthood of Maryland and the Catholic Archdiocese of Washington agreed with the parents that the definition was faulty.

Uh..... no fooling.

39 posted on 11/24/2005 1:28:02 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I am surprised they did the proper thing for one time.

You and me both. I'm flabbergasted, actually.

40 posted on 11/24/2005 1:28:56 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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