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Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas?
ktsm ^ | Nov. 22 05 | ktsm

Posted on 11/22/2005 3:18:10 PM PST by churchillbuff

If you're expecting a hearty "Merry Christmas" as you're doing your shopping; you might be disappointed.

Usual holiday ads say things like Christmas, but you might want get used to hearing and seeing the term holiday. Because some stores are cutting Christmas out and putting a generic phrase in.

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas, but don't expect to hear someone say it.

"I love Christmas, so I don't mind," says Rebecca Reyes.

Wal-mart is one of many stores asking its employees to replace Christmas with "Happy Holidays". The company says its trying not to offend anyone, by catering to one kind of celebration. However, some say it makes the season generic.

"I really don't care what people say to me. Merry Christmas, Merry Xmas, it's all the same," says Lorenzo Maxwell.

Other people want to boycott stores like Macy's and Bloomingdales where they also say the same, cutting out Christmas and Hanukkah from sayings and banners.

"I think Happy Hanukkah is appropriate, if your gonna say Merry Christmas say Happy Hanukkah as well," says Diane Sandy.

"That its so generic, not gonna offend anyone by saying Happy Holidays," says El Pasoan Eric Morales.

Rabbi Stephen Leon says he personally isn't offended by Merry Christmas, but believes corporations are just trying to please everyone, "one thing I've learned in life is you can't please everyone."

Some think the generic phrase is taking it too far and want to keep the season traditional and simple.

"I'm still gonna say it, that's my basis, don't think we should sweep it under the rug," Sandy says.

"Trying to ban everything, so I think they just leave as is," says Reyes.

The Catholic League for Religous and Civil rights had wanted a boycott against Wal-mart saying the store discriminated against Christmas. But called it off after the store apologized.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: antichrist; antichristian; antichristmas; bigotry; christ; christmas; culturewars; humbug; jesus; merrychristmas; pc; retail; scrooge; xmas
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101 posted on 11/22/2005 5:14:50 PM PST by Palladin (There ain't nobody here but us chickens. (Senate Dems Theme Song))
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To: HairOfTheDog

I am a bell ringer this year, I was told to say "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas" to people who come near, guess what I'll be saying? It's easy in my area. It's quite obvious the reason for the season...


102 posted on 11/22/2005 5:18:27 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: churchillbuff
Merry Christmas
103 posted on 11/22/2005 5:23:28 PM PST by vigilante2 (member of the vast right wing conspiracy)
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To: Archytekt

And I always ask, "Which holiday(s)would that be?"


104 posted on 11/22/2005 5:24:45 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: churchillbuff

The Puritans who sought to "purify" the Church of England of "popish" remnants and were kicked out and who settled in New England were among the most fervid of anti-Merry Christmas Christians. There has always persisted throughout American religious history an element that has been very much opposed to the secular paganization of the feast of Christ's birth - with such pagan things as reindeer, santas, trees, etc. that have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. Truth be told, for many the season is nothing but a commercialized extravananza for getting, the malls, parties, and time off from work. I don't think it's necessarily wrong to say "seasons' greetings" for the retail business. BUT, I wonder what that crowd is going to do when they discover that holiday means "holy day"? In any case the pre-Christmas period of the church liturgical year is Advent and although Advent isn't a penetential season it is very much a solemn and serious time for preparation. Let's not hold our breath!! For most the preparation and seriousness will be about getting the best sale prices and party arrangements.


105 posted on 11/22/2005 5:27:33 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: Skooz
I don't buy "Holiday gifts." I buy Christmas presents.

It is my belief that the retail industry one day will regret this campaign because it is possible that in the not-too-distant future the market may tank because the merchants have done such a good job at separating the concept of Christmas from this time of year. Consequently, people might come to think: why should I be so interested in giving a "holiday gift"?

106 posted on 11/22/2005 5:27:52 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: gingerky

Not the retailers.... the communist ACLU. And remember, 30 years ago who would have ever imagined they would be going after Christmas or anything Christian? But they have.


107 posted on 11/22/2005 5:28:13 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Seems Like Our Press Has Turned Against Our Country")
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To: T.L.Sink

I like to say, "Happy Holy Day" to retailers. The young ones just look at me funny. The old ones smile.


108 posted on 11/22/2005 5:32:08 PM PST by keats5
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To: twntaipan

IDEA: Go to one of these stores. Fill up a basket to the brim. Roll it to a register...and as soon as someone says "Happy Holidays" - abandon the basket and tell them that you are going to a store that still celebrates the real holy day: Christmas!


109 posted on 11/22/2005 5:37:16 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yeah - that's the crab-ass spirit!
110 posted on 11/22/2005 5:43:29 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Palladin

I thought it was Land's End, not LL Bean. And Microsoft, not Apple.


111 posted on 11/22/2005 5:47:39 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing their memory, or their backbone)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
No it is L. L. Bean, unfortunately. Very disappointing.
112 posted on 11/22/2005 5:50:21 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: T.L.Sink

It really does no good to make your point with history that no one knows and is completely irrelevant to why they celebrate today. Still, I think the holy day thing is pretty funny, but again, it matters not if no one knows and if it has nothing to do with intent in today's world.


113 posted on 11/22/2005 5:51:41 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing their memory, or their backbone)
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To: Andy'smom

Darn. I just switched from Land's End to LL Bean a year or two ago for this same reason. LOL! Now I do not know whether to switch back or to find another company altogether. Well, I don't need clothes anyway.


114 posted on 11/22/2005 5:53:04 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing their memory, or their backbone)
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To: LiteKeeper; EveningStar
IDEA: Go to one of these stores. Fill up a basket to the brim. Roll it to a register...and as soon as someone says "Happy Holidays" - abandon the basket

AH yes! Merry Crab-Ass to you too! ;~D

116 posted on 11/22/2005 6:01:55 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: keats5
"Happy Holy Day" to retailers. The young ones just look at me funny. The old ones smile.

Because the old ones were brought up to be ~polite~.

117 posted on 11/22/2005 6:04:01 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: Nachum
How about "Have a pleasant winter soltice"? It's a stupid P.C. greeting, but at least it means more that the generic saying "Happy Holidays".

Last year when greeted with "Happy Holidays", I'd reply, "Which one? Eid, Kwaanza, Hannanuk, Chinese New Year or Christmas? And the person would inevitably reply with a silly grin, "Christmas".

118 posted on 11/22/2005 6:12:11 PM PST by Irish Queen
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To: churchillbuff

It's "Merry Christmas" to me and let those who find that offensive, be offended. I'm offended by the generic greetings.


119 posted on 11/22/2005 6:18:00 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I know what you mean. I loved the store in Freeport.


120 posted on 11/22/2005 6:23:32 PM PST by Andy'smom
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