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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 20 November 2005
Various big media television networks ^ | 20 November 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/20/2005 5:33:06 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, November 20th, 2005

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt; Dr. Julie Gerberding, director, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases; Dr. Mike Ryan, director, Epidemic and Pandemic Alert and Response Department of the World Health Organization.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; Sens. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Chris Dodd, D-Conn.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; epa; facethenation; foxnewssunday; guests; lateedition; lineup; meetthepress; rumsfeld; sms; smsms; sunday; talkshows; thisweek
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To: Peach

Abu Grahib was the beginning, I believe. Fat Teddy screaming on the Senate floor about womens underwear while Berg was getting his head sawed off must have been very demoralizing..


661 posted on 11/20/2005 12:04:29 PM PST by cardinal4 ("One man gone and another to go....")
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To: anita

Can you explain to me how Chris Matthews is still on the air? He draws less then half a mil. His show gets less then half the viewers Fox shows draw. How does he keep from getting canned by MSNBC?


662 posted on 11/20/2005 12:05:30 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Cowards cut and run. Not Marines" Congresswoman Jean Schmidt (Republican))
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To: MNJohnnie

Great post


663 posted on 11/20/2005 12:05:38 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: cardinal4

I read an article the other day that detailed the "torture" the CIA regularly uses on prisoners. It was so mild, I found myself horribly disappointed that more extreme attempts were not being made to extract information.

The absolute worst of the "torture" was waterboarding, which is used in training for some of our soldiers so they know how to resist interrogation should they be captured.


664 posted on 11/20/2005 12:06:14 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
And I should have mentioned, we have patriot and military man, Ollie North, who has confirmed the same things about the sinking morale of our military. The denial of this on this thread alone is astounding.

Yes, as is the denial of the dropping support for the President and the war in Iraq. But I am being duly chastised by all of these statisticians here for suggesting that every poll in the country (including Fox) is anything other than a contrived scheme by the MSM.

665 posted on 11/20/2005 12:06:54 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: p23185

IMHO they are just not thinking all they want at present is Bush and Cheney out of the way they are not really thinking who would be there instead of them.


666 posted on 11/20/2005 12:06:58 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: MamaB

Yeah, even his slickness was not as crummy as President. With clinton it is all about ego and Money and with Carter it is all about ego. It is all about Jimmah geting credit for something, ANYTHING! Hey Jimmah you were famous for "lusting in your heart", or mind or whatever you lust in. He thinks that his lightweight son is going to be successful running for office. Fat Chance!!!


667 posted on 11/20/2005 12:07:13 PM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: Peach
We've seen numerous articles alluding to this and the left is licking their chops. Republicans had better be smart and start playing offense instead of defense.

Kind of courious how they think that is going to happen when they do not even have the guts to vote their talking points on Iraq. If the Repbs are doing so bad explain why the Dems voted Republican lite Friday nite on THEIR issue??????

668 posted on 11/20/2005 12:07:59 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Cowards cut and run. Not Marines" Congresswoman Jean Schmidt (Republican))
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To: snugs
Mystery-Ak who is married to I think a Sargent in the army who served for over a year in Iraq has also confirmed with the mixed messages coming from Politicians that moral is low in certain quarters.

Yes she has confirmed that on a thread where some freepers got angry with her for saying it.

I think most freepers know us well enough that we are not part of the negative group that regularly criticizes the president and it's most unfortunate that anyone who is trying to tell the truth about this matter is taken to task by other freepers.

669 posted on 11/20/2005 12:08:33 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Blake#1
We (Freepers) believed the polls when the participants were equally divided between Reps, Dems, Inds. 29% of a polling group being Republican is a poor sample and the results are a "lie"!

You will understand if I am a bit dubious that "We Freepers" did a lot of checking when the polls favored Bush.

670 posted on 11/20/2005 12:09:56 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: RobbyS

It was a marine talking truth to a former marine

actually, it was a marine hoping to have his congresswoman speak his truth for him to a former marine.....

but, as we all learned Friday night, it's ok to call the president a liar on the floor of congress, it's ok to say that the president misled us, manipulated reports etc. all of that is ok....just don't ever, ever say anything that might even slightly hurt the feelings of a fellow congressperson because that is not allowed!


671 posted on 11/20/2005 12:11:45 PM PST by chgomac
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To: MNJohnnie

You know the answer to that question; to be painted as a cut and run politician will not play well to the base of either party except the extreme left which is approximately 10% of the Democrat's party base.

What I am talking about is the lies about the mission that have been permitted to stand for well over a year now with very little defense coming from our side in Washington, until last week.

You may take this any way you wish and paint it any way you wish with regard to my posts. But I will assume that you don't think that Ollie North has a hidden agenda when he wrote his newspaper article last week which detailed how low morale is among our soldiers in Iarq.


672 posted on 11/20/2005 12:11:59 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Fishtalk

Sounds good to me. I think your analysis is right on. I have thought for a long time as many freepers have that. With Porter Goss, COndi, and Boulton in those high places that the Butt kicking started many moons ago and will continue for awhile. all those leftover liberals at State, CIA, And FBI are probably watching their backs everyday wondering when they will be discovered as freaking leakers and traitors. I hope it is a wholesale butt kicking housecleaning.


673 posted on 11/20/2005 12:14:40 PM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: Fishtalk

I distinctly heard the woman reading the statement about "cowards cut and run but Marines never do", that "the Marine" was a Congress person. And .. I surmised he made the statement because he couldn't be there in person.


674 posted on 11/20/2005 12:14:59 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: Fishtalk; samantha
That being said, my new take on things is to forget that these people who hate America are working from an idealology. I'm going to squint mine eyes and try to follow the money.

I am more jaded and cynical and simply refuse to believe that billions and billions of dollars were floating around all over the planet courtesy of Saddam and absolutely NO ONE in American politics knew a thing about it.

My new mantra? FOLLOW THE MONEY.

This is an excellent observation. I frequently argue with my friends that the Democratic Party and the DNC, as they are currently operated, have far less resemblance to a political party than they do to a criminal syndicate.

If they did not have the protection and immunity provided by their political status and connections, they would both be easy targets for criminal prosecution under the RICO statutes, and others.

675 posted on 11/20/2005 12:15:21 PM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: Txsleuth
So do you have an high powered haikus or brilliant observations left to share or shall I wrap things up?
676 posted on 11/20/2005 12:15:41 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Cowards cut and run, Marines never do" Congresswoman Jean Schmidt (Republican))
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To: MACVSOG68

I have only been responding to pings and haven't been reading the thread, M, and so am not helping you out much here.

But it's a sad day in America when we have freepers who think that our military is HAPPY that lies are being told about them, their mission and the war in general.

The politically naive and wishful thinkers may re-think their positions once they read Ollie North's article about this matter. Or they may be so entrenched in their positions they will just deny the undeniable. It flies in the face of human nature for people to think that these lies are a GOOD thing.

And considering that most of us agree that Republicans are spineless, I find this denial about the sinking morale fascinating.

This is Ollie North's article (which I'm sure will be parsed by those wishing the facts were otherwise).

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1524283/posts


677 posted on 11/20/2005 12:16:01 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Sal

Well .. "Timmy and the other jackels" can't do anything to stop the public seeing those headlines.

That's why they're all rushing around trying to amend what they said .. as usual.


678 posted on 11/20/2005 12:18:06 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: CyberAnt

LMAO!


679 posted on 11/20/2005 12:18:53 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (The right wants victory, the left wants surrender. It's that simple.)
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To: samantha
We also know that Republicans and Conservatives screen their calls when they are home and most of the time they are working and the Pollsters do not talk to Voice Mail or answering Machines.

That being the case, when the polls continually showed a close election, the President should have easily won by 20 or 30 points. Why were they relatively accurate then, and in 2002, but suddenly they are not now relatively accurate? I notice that no Republican on the talking head circuit is saying much about the polls because from what I have heard the Republican internal polls show pretty much the same thing. BTW, there are few more conservative sites than Free Republic. But the members poll show only 51% strongly approve of Bush's performance. That should be pretty telling.

680 posted on 11/20/2005 12:19:42 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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